Questions and Statements about God...

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theillestrator;579596 said:
well according to extremists, Mosley is a blue-eyed devil lol.

Any Black man who has a Jheri Curl in the 21st century, automatically gets classified as such. It's in the handbook/
 
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Are you afraid to be wrong? to die and find out there was a jesus and he expected you to live as told in the bible?
 
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No, Im confident the biblical god and any other god written in a mans book is wrong. I have no fear at all of being wrong. If hypothetically I were wrong than so be it, I wouldn't want to stand along the biblical god anyway forever because it seems worst than the devil to me.
 
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tx_made, you've made this thread like 20 times.

I'm gonna need you to come with a little more creativity, b.
 
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ThaChozenWun;588564 said:
No, Im confident the biblical god and any other god written in a mans book is wrong. I have no fear at all of being wrong. If hypothetically I were wrong than so be it, I wouldn't want to stand along the biblical god anyway forever because it seems worst than the devil to me.

explain...how are you so sure?

and the biblical god worse than the devil?
 
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TX_Made713;588588 said:
explain...how are you so sure?

and the biblical god worse than the devil?

If you read the bible and are christian of course you will think the devil is worst, but IMO someone who kills innocent kids, opresses people, supports slavery, create billions of other galaxies to show off, doesnt allow people to question him, is jealous, doesnt allow people to lust and etc.. but he implanted those feelings in us, someone who sets you up to sin from the time of birth. I dont want to fuck with someone like that.

Im sure because a real god doesnt need a vehicle to visit Earth, a real god would rather someone do well in life and not believe than believe and go around killing as long as he accepts Jesus. Burning bushes, talking lizards and snakes, bringing dead people back, people living to be thousands of years old, and man building a boat by himself when hes clearly old and it would be hard to get all the materials without traveling the earth to get enough wood, an old man gathering up 2 of every animal for this boat, people living with dinosaurs with no proof, the fact of evolution, the fact earth is older than the bible says, the commandments being changed, the gospels written well after the fact, the commandments not being followed with no consequences, the white jesus, the having plants before a sun, millions of people starving to death, dying from treatable illnesses, and wars because god wants HIS land. The fact the bible writers mention Gods not god several times, the fact people in ancient times dont know nearly a fourth of what we do now so wrote the bible blindly when it came to space and the ability to date objects they found. Other texts telling the same Jesus type story way before christians stole it, and way before Jesus is said to have lived. If you like I can add more
 
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TX_Made713;588549 said:
Are you afraid to be wrong? to die and find out there was a jesus and he expected you to live as told in the bible?

If you actually believe you will see a "Jesus" after you die you deserve to suffer while you are still alive.
 
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Definitely not afraid. I dont believe that Jesus Christ is my lord and savior but I do believe in a creator...That should be good enough.
 
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ThaChozenWun;588634 said:
If you read the bible and are christian of course you will think the devil is worst, but IMO someone who kills innocent kids, opresses people, supports slavery, create billions of other galaxies to show off, doesnt allow people to question him, is jealous, doesnt allow people to lust and etc.. but he implanted those feelings in us, someone who sets you up to sin from the time of birth. I dont want to fuck with someone like that.

Im sure because a real god doesnt need a vehicle to visit Earth, a real god would rather someone do well in life and not believe than believe and go around killing as long as he accepts Jesus. Burning bushes, talking lizards and snakes, bringing dead people back, people living to be thousands of years old, and man building a boat by himself when hes clearly old and it would be hard to get all the materials without traveling the earth to get enough wood, an old man gathering up 2 of every animal for this boat, people living with dinosaurs with no proof, the fact of evolution, the fact earth is older than the bible says, the commandments being changed, the gospels written well after the fact, the commandments not being followed with no consequences, the white jesus, the having plants before a sun, millions of people starving to death, dying from treatable illnesses, and wars because god wants HIS land. The fact the bible writers mention Gods not god several times, the fact people in ancient times dont know nearly a fourth of what we do now so wrote the bible blindly when it came to space and the ability to date objects they found. Other texts telling the same Jesus type story way before christians stole it, and way before Jesus is said to have lived. If you like I can add more

^^ for these reasons and others...no
 
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In a time where belief has to correspond directly to facts, there is a loss of trust. People nowadays can't just say that God exists and listeners will be like...O.K., I believe you. There has to be some sort of miraculous revelation or some radical life change to at least have listerers give a very small amount of trust to the idea. Why not go the whole way?

I believe there is a loss of trust is because in retrospect we can't be trusted. Someone can't say God exist without thinking that this person is trying to betray the listener's trust. A person's integrity is more on the line than the message. If you can find a flaw in the messenger, then there is this assumed right of passage to say that the message is also flawed. But what if despite how hypocritical the messenger may be that God really does exist?

I believe that it is possible for someone's faith to be misplaced or put in a false understanding, but it doesn't mean that faith is not important. In relationships, there is a certain faith you have in someone to build trust. You want to take someone's word for something if you believe that person has your best interests in mind. Even if you don't quite understand, you put your weight on just the mere words of promises and hopes in the belief that something good might come from it.
 
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I could tell you I was god, would you believe me? Of course not because there is no proof. The same for those who don't believe, there is not one ounce of proof that an all knowing anything is possible thing created everything and controls everything. The reason people believe is because an ancient book says so and it was the only explanation for things at the time. So many people were caught in the trap early that its not hard to get rid of it now, even with science now proving parts of the bible wrong.
 
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ThaChozenWun;590116 said:
I could tell you I was god, would you believe me? Of course not because there is no proof. The same for those who don't believe, there is not one ounce of proof that an all knowing anything is possible thing created everything and controls everything. The reason people believe is because an ancient book says so and it was the only explanation for things at the time. So many people were caught in the trap early that its not hard to get rid of it now, even with science now proving parts of the bible wrong.

Sure, I won't believe you are God but if you said so I'm not going to ask you to prove it. For me to ask you to prove it says that have no intentions of putting my trust in you. You can work miracles and wonders as proof, but if I can't trust you then what is the point? I would be more concerned with your integrity; whether or not your words are worth confiding in even if I don't quite understand what your intentions are. If you can say that you are God and it is trustworthy statement, you don't have to shake up the world to get me to understand.
 
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Generally trust is associated with something else time, bonds, knowledge, etc. If I met a stranger on a subway and he told be to buy US steel stock I would place almost no trust in this statement. Why should I? Is the person particularly knowledgeable of stocks? Is he a friend that would confer to me special preference to knowledge he possesses? This person could be an insider that decided to grace me with an extremely valuble pieice of information but I have no way to determine the value of the information being passed to me.

To me the nature of trust has a duality. It represents the amount of leverage you are willing to extend to someone against yourself. For instance, my best friend of 30 years is someone I would turn over my live saving too if he and his family needed it. His word that he would repay me would be enough trust that the event would occur. I am wiling to place myself in a great deal of potential harm based on the trust that my friend will take actions to avoid me getting hurt. The other aspect of trust is the type being talked about here. It represents the amount of faith I will extend to a person or position based on the information provided by 'person A'. Generally this second type implies action. That is if 'person A' is my Doctor and he tells me my blood pressure is too high there usually follows actions to be taken. I should take these actions due to his status as an expert something I simply have to trust. Note here this Doctor could also mention that the Celtics will win the NBA finals, but here I have no reason to trust the doctor and take action (betting on the Celtics for instance).

When it comes to...

Believer:'I believe in God'

Non-Believer:'Oh yeah, prove it!'

The non-believer has made an assumption, namely that the believer is calling on him to change his belief system. If this is the believer intention then the non-believer is pretty valid in asking, since the two are assumed strangers it seems absurd for the believer to expect the non-believer to take action, particularly as significant as a shift in theistic belief is, simply on his say so.
 
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lol for calling for trust in the age of paranoia. why? because people HAVE lied, and we have been busting them out. all truth is suspect because in order for lies to be suspect, we must doubt the truth as well. its a dual edged sword, but i suppose its better than believing you were going to hell your whole life and then floating around in space for all eternity thinking "wow, i wasted a lot of guilt". the world as a whole are cocky people and cant stand to be wrong.
 
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TheCATthatdidntDIE;591779 said:
lol for calling for trust in the age of paranoia. why? because people HAVE lied, and we have been busting them out. all truth is suspect because in order for lies to be suspect, we must doubt the truth as well. its a dual edged sword, but i suppose its better than believing you were going to hell your whole life and then floating around in space for all eternity thinking "wow, i wasted a lot of guilt". the world as a whole are cocky people and cant stand to be wrong.

The point of this thread was exactly for that response though. There is a lack of trust or no trust at all for those who say that God exist. My thing however is just because you find the messenger's claim suspect, does it mean that God's Existence is suspect. If all truth is suspect and if what you are saying is truth, then I should find your words suspect as well based on that logic.
 
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alissowack;592149 said:
The point of this thread was exactly for that response though. There is a lack of trust or no trust at all for those who say that God exist. My thing however is just because you find the messenger's claim suspect, does it mean that God's Existence is suspect. If all truth is suspect and if what you are saying is truth, then I should find your words suspect as well based on that logic.

a man who sees. everything is suspect. i agree with you. so i choose no religion because i cannot prove he exists, nor that he doesnt exist. i do beleive in some form of higher power because the theory of "spontaneous generation" was disproved a little over 200 years ago (i may be wrong but i know its been quite some time) so we didnt come from "nothingness" as to whether its the christian god or the muslim god, i cant say. and i probably never will. rule of thumb for me is to simply do good when possible and be sorry for the wrong and try to atone somewhat. not for my own sake but for the sake of good
 
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there may have been a good man at one point and he may have been the son of some god. but as so much time has passed, i only say that he has become a legend. and all legends are based on some fact and then stretched
 
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