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sounds of jacob;315989 said:
LOL RHETORIC ^ ... KING JAMES WAS BLACK ... WE CAN show and prove ... LOL FURTHER MORE HE SANCTIONED THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE KJV HE HAD HEBREW SCHOLARS TRANSLITERATE THE MANUSCRIPTS .. ... THE TORAH IS AUTHENTIC


Dude get out of here with that bootleg Hebrew Israelite theology. You can't be serious with that made up non scholarly 12 tribes list. I know real Hebrews, you guys are not even taken serious with your ghetto scholarship.

Posting a youtube video is not authentic scholarship. I study with real Hebrews, and you my friend don't cut it. First of all, your listing of the supposed twelve tribes is vague and really contradictory in some instances. Puerto Ricans can be classified in many of those categories. Which one the Afro-Mestizo? Euros? What about the Afro-Mestizo Euro blend. I can take what you know about Hebrew and put it on a fleas back and it would still have room to move around.

Chill out Brian. Go drink your brew and hang out with your white buddies in Tacoma.
 
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there is a god, but not whats in any religious bullshit. and i mean god as something that created all that is here today. aint nobody going to fucking fix our problems besides ourselves. and you really think out of the entire universe this god only cares about our speck of existence? SMMFGDH
 
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And Step;316791 said:
Dude get out of here with that bootleg Hebrew Israelite theology. You can't be serious with that made up non scholarly 12 tribes list. I know real Hebrews, you guys are not even taken serious with your ghetto scholarship.

Posting a youtube video is not authentic scholarship. I study with real Hebrews, and you my friend don't cut it. First of all, your listing of the supposed twelve tribes is vague and really contradictory in some instances. Puerto Ricans can be classified in many of those categories. Which one the Afro-Mestizo? Euros? What about the Afro-Mestizo Euro blend. I can take what you know about Hebrew and put it on a fleas back and it would still have room to move around.

Chill out Brian. Go drink your brew and hang out with your white buddies in Tacoma.

that was cute ... condescend is what you do when you cant scholastically prove your ideology your finished ... and further more were in israel right now .. lol google ben ammi carter .. were not conspiring about this .. just log off
 
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tangible thoughts;316861 said:
there is a god, but not whats in any religious bullshit. and i mean god as something that created all that is here today. aint nobody going to fucking fix our problems besides ourselves. and you really think out of the entire universe this god only cares about our speck of existence? SMMFGDH

Well, what is it going to take for us to fix the problems?
 
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sounds of jacob;315989 said:
LOL RHETORIC ^ ... KING JAMES WAS BLACK ... WE CAN show and prove ... LOL FURTHER MORE HE SANCTIONED THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE KJV HE HAD HEBREW SCHOLARS TRANSLITERATE THE MANUSCRIPTS .. ... THE TORAH IS AUTHENTIC


I agree, but you don't have the Torah. Your so confused you quote from other parts of the Tanakh and label it Torah .
Now I know you don't know what the hell you are talking about. You claimed he had Hebrew Scholars. That is irrelevant if they couldn't find words in the English lexicon to convey the same meaning as in Hebrew. They couldn't, so the basically opted for the "aw fuck it lets throw some shit in here" school of translation techniques.

The fact that they left many Hebrew words intact should tell you that they didn't have an English equivalent of some of these words. When the meanings are lost, then how can you come to a conclusion on what something means?
 
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sounds of jacob;317102 said:
that was cute ... condescend is what you do when you cant scholastically prove your ideology your finished ... and further more were in israel right now .. lol google ben ammi carter .. were not conspiring about this .. just log off

Tribe Please.

Your not with Ben Ammi. I have friends in the AHIJ. Your with the dudes who post those 12 tribe listings on their doors. Ben Ammi doesn't recognize those designations. They don't even take you serious. They study Hebrew, can write and speak it.

I remember when Judahxulu had to spank you for your misrepresentation. Now you want to act like your with them. Your a fraud. Their theology contradicts most of that nonsense you spit. The fact that you call him Ben Ammi Carter lets me know your not with him. He doesn't use Carter. That is disrespectful.

Don't make me call my AHIJ friends to expose you as a fraud. All it would take is a couple of questions.

Matter of fact, if you are really down what is his oldest son's name? And where was their first meeting place? And where did they stop off at on there way to Domona. One of these question anyone can answer. The other two you would have to be a member of the community. I can't believe you tried to pretend you with the AHIJ. Especially after Judah pounded you into submission last year.

CB4 Hebrew.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;317280 said:
"without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins." Hebrews 9:22

Plain and simple.

But why? That's what I'm asking. If God is the ultimate creator then he decided that bloodshed must occur for sins to be forgiven. Why would an omni-benevolent god come up with a law like that? Why does bloodshed hold some kind of value for him?
 
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The GMW;319158 said:
But why? That's what I'm asking. If God is the ultimate creator then he decided that bloodshed must occur for sins to be forgiven. Why would an omni-benevolent god come up with a law like that? Why does bloodshed hold some kind of value for him?

Cause that's how it is. Don't ask no questions.
 
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The GMW;319158 said:
But why? That's what I'm asking. If God is the ultimate creator then he decided that bloodshed must occur for sins to be forgiven. Why would an omni-benevolent god come up with a law like that? Why does bloodshed hold some kind of value for him?

"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?" Daniel 4:35

This is His universe and God does what He pleases. God sent His Son to die for you. All He ask you to do is believe in the sacrifice provided. God did all the work, all He ask is that you believe. How hard is that?
 
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The GMW;319158 said:
But why? That's what I'm asking. If God is the ultimate creator then he decided that bloodshed must occur for sins to be forgiven. Why would an omni-benevolent god come up with a law like that? Why does bloodshed hold some kind of value for him?

"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?" Daniel 4:35
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;319991 said:
"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?" Daniel 4:35

This is His universe and God does what He pleases. God sent His Son to die for you. All He ask you to do is believe in the sacrifice provided. God did all the work, all He ask is that you believe. How hard is that?

I see... so, basically, you're not even going to attempt to explain the gap in logic between "all-loving" and "demanding innocent bloodshed in exchange for forgiveness", and you'll instead give me a mini-sermon... sorry, that's not really what I'm looking for.
 
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The GMW;321720 said:
I see... so, basically, you're not even going to attempt to explain the gap in logic between "all-loving" and "demanding innocent bloodshed in exchange for forgiveness", and you'll instead give me a mini-sermon... sorry, that's not really what I'm looking for.

You made the mistake of thinking there was a reasonable answer.
 
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and step;318092 said:
tribe please.

Your not with ben ammi. I have friends in the ahij. Your with the dudes who post those 12 tribe listings on their doors. Ben ammi doesn't recognize those designations. They don't even take you serious. They study hebrew, can write and speak it.

I remember when judahxulu had to spank you for your misrepresentation. Now you want to act like your with them. Your a fraud. Their theology contradicts most of that nonsense you spit. The fact that you call him ben ammi carter lets me know your not with him. He doesn't use carter. That is disrespectful.

Don't make me call my ahij friends to expose you as a fraud. All it would take is a couple of questions.

Matter of fact, if you are really down what is his oldest son's name? And where was their first meeting place? And where did they stop off at on there way to domona. One of these question anyone can answer. The other two you would have to be a member of the community. I can't believe you tried to pretend you with the ahij. Especially after judah pounded you into submission last year.

Cb4 hebrew.

that wasnt me that he "pounded into submission" so again your wrong and im done with you its really irrelevant ... You dont even no who your speaking to .. Just stay on your square black man shalom
 
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The GMW;321720 said:
I see... so, basically, you're not even going to attempt to explain the gap in logic between "all-loving" and "demanding innocent bloodshed in exchange for forgiveness", and you'll instead give me a mini-sermon... sorry, that's not really what I'm looking for.

There is no "gap in logic" with God my brother! You see you want to hear an answer that pleases and soothes your ear. God said that in the last days, this is what would happen. "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." (2 Timothy 4:3)

Instead of receiving truth, you reject it because the truth is not what you really want. Your so use to lies, deceit, and doctrines of demons that you've grown accustomed to lies. It's normal to you.

You see, God is sovereign. And if He says that only blood takes away the sins of mankind, than guess what? Only blood will take away our sins! Why? Who cares why. God is the one who paid the price. God is the one who sent His Son to die for all of humanity. We paid nothing, God paid it all. God answers to no one my friend. God will never be investigated by a commission, a board, or senate committee. God doesn't have to hand in a report to mankind and tell us why He does what He does. God does according to His own will to accomplish His own purpose. And guess what? EVERYTHING GOD DOES IS RIGHT, JUST, and HOLY! No ands, if's, or but's about it.

If you don't want forgiveness of sins, so be it. God is not going to force you to accept Him. If you don't want to be with Him forever and ever, then you won't. If you do, then you will accept Him. It's as simple as that.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;322743 said:
There is no "gap in logic" with God my brother! You see you want to hear an answer that pleases and soothes your ear. God said that in the last days, this is what would happen. "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." (2 Timothy 4:3)

Instead of receiving truth, you reject it because the truth is not what you really want. Your so use to lies, deceit, and doctrines of demons that you've grown accustomed to lies. It's normal to you.

You see, God is sovereign. And if He says that only blood takes away the sins of mankind, than guess what? Only blood will take away our sins! Why? Who cares why. God is the one who paid the price. God is the one who sent His Son to die for all of humanity. We paid nothing, God paid it all. God answers to no one my friend. God will never be investigated by a commission, a board, or senate committee. God doesn't have to hand in a report to mankind and tell us why He does what He does. God does according to His own will to accomplish His own purpose. And guess what? EVERYTHING GOD DOES IS RIGHT, JUST, and HOLY! No ands, if's, or but's about it.

If you don't want forgiveness of sins, so be it. God is not going to force you to accept Him. If you don't want to be with Him forever and ever, then you won't. If you do, then you will accept Him. It's as simple as that.

Yeah, there is a gap in logic. Just try to honestly think about it. You're talking about an infinitely loving, infinitely compassionate being, who deliberately creates imperfect beings, and then refuses to forgive them for their imperfections unless innocent blood is spilled. There's the gap. Infinitely compassionate =/= demanding innocent bloodshed.

Don't bother replying with another sermon, because I promise you I've heard it all before. What I haven't heard is an explanation for blood, which cannot be shed without suffering/death, being some kind of currency in which an all-loving god deals.
 
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alissowack;316207 said:
According to the definition you gave, it doesn't suggest any moral outcomes or constraints. Just because someone is concerned or observant of the facts doesn't mean that the facts are good or used for good. I think drug dealers can be pragmatic. They know the facts of what drugs can do. They know for a fact that those addicted to drugs will be more willing to pay a lot of money for it than someone who isn't. They also know the facts about getting caught and the time you serve. Yet, these people are not what you consider good. Being pragmatic seems to have a very loose meaning.

Most world problems are not moral problems. World hunger can be couched in moral terms but the solution to the problem has nothing to do with morals. It has everything to do with finding ways to increase the world food supply. These increases would result from pragmatic decisions.

The reality is we have drug-dealers because it often a good choice. If the penalty, fully weighed, is not seen as too cumbersome compared to the rewards then it is a pragmatic choice.
 
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alissowack;316380 said:
How can God be a coping mechanism? The name of this being doesn't suggest comfort to me. A deity seem to suggest terror for those trying to side with him. When a deity gets upset, it's catastrophic; volcanos erupting, lightning striking, and the winds blowing. You don't really know if you are in this deity's favor or not. You can doing something you think is what he wants only to still be cursed.

But there is still hope and a chance that GOD is a possibility. Thats all that really matters at the end of the day.... for those theist out their
 
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