Questions and Statements about God...

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

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Plus if god is all powerful, he DAMN SURE hasn't done everything within his power to ensure me a trip to heaven.

Plus what the fuck does god have to say about people who reject him because they grew up indoctrinated to another religion? Or have never grew up never even hearing the words Yaweh or Jesus?

Yes, He did. He sent His Son to die for you. Now you can go to heaven if you place your trust in Him. What are you waiting for? Don't you want to be healed?

 

[Disciplined InSight]

This is true, but then again can this really be proven?

One thing people dont pay attention to often is the credibility of the source of their facts. It can sound all well written and logical but if the author is bs then that defeats the argument being made. Kinda think of it, isnt that the main problem most people have with the bible?

It's been proven through the prophesies from those prophets of YHWH ..what else do you need, b?

the reason being is due to the religious fanatics carrying out their beliefs. you know that is huge over in that part of the whole. its not just one big coincidence. its man

No. The Assyrian empire included Ninevah...they were a wicked city in idol worship and was prophesied to be destroyed because they didn't worship the true Most High.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

How bout the mercy that was extended to all at the cross? How bout that grace that was provided by God in that He sent His Son to die for all of us? How bout the justice that God poured out on His Son for the sins of humanity?

Do you think God is just going to wink at all those who thought that could get by with rejecting His Son?

Do you think that God is just going to let the wicked off by ceasing their existance?

Sin warrants eternal death! This is the commandment of GOD.

So when God sends all the wicked into the lake of fire, all of the righteous will praise God for being HOLY, HOLY, HOLY! True and righteous are His judgments.

Whatever God does is right. So whatever punishment the wicked will receive on the last day will be just! And nobody will dare say it wasn't!

None of the stuff you said would be necessary if Hell and eternal punishment didn't exist. If God didn't first create Hell, he wouldn't have needed to send Jesus to save us from it. By your argument, at best, it would appear that God himself realized Hell was too harsh and gave us a better means of escaping it.

Also, as I said, eternal death would be understandable. However, eternal torment appears to be overkill. Again, sending someone to hell for eternity for 70 years of evildoing is tantamount to giving the death penalty for stealing a bag of skittles from 7-11.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

No. The Assyrian empire included Ninevah...they were a wicked city in idol worship and was prophesied to be destroyed because they didn't worship the true Most High.

Weren't there thousands of cities that didn't worship the Hebrews' god at that time?

There were non-Hebrew empires that prospered for centuries. The Bible even says that their prosperity was God's will. But then he gotta destroy Ninevah because..... ?

These stories make no sense. That's why intelligent people don't believe them.

 

[fiat_money]

Trick question. "God" is not a god of love.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

None of the stuff you said would be necessary if Hell and eternal punishment didn't exist. If God didn't first create Hell, he wouldn't have needed to send Jesus to save us from it. By your argument, at best, it would appear that God himself realized Hell was too harsh and gave us a better means of escaping it.

Also, as I said, eternal death would be understandable. However, eternal torment appears to be overkill. Again, sending someone to hell for eternity for 70 years of evildoing is tantamount to giving the death penalty for stealing a bag of skittles from 7-11.

1. Hell wasn't created for human beings my brother. Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Matthew 25:41

2. God prepared the way of escape before He even created the universe. "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Revelation 13:8

3. Eternal death and eternal torment are one in the same. Hell is not a place of rest, thus the wicked will be tormented day and night forever and ever. "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." Revelation 14:11

4. Nobody on earth truly understands the EXCEEDING SINFULNESS OF SIN. Sin is an offense to God. It is an abomination. If the wicked will not have Christ as their Savior, they will have Him as their judge. Sin must be dealt with. And a Holy, Just, and Righteous God will deal with it at the great white throne judgment. And I can guarantee you that when all of Gods creative intelligences are assembled for this great and dreadful day, we will all praise Him for being JUST, RIGHTEOUS, TRUE, and HOLY.

Everybody will get a fair trial at the great white throne. And because it will be fair, the wicked will have no hope. God have mercy!

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Trick question. "God" is not a god of love.

Your still breathing, right?

 

[fiat_money]

Your still breathing, right?

So, because I, fiat_money, am alive, "God" is a "god of love"?

Is that what you're implying?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

So, because I, fiat_money, am alive, "God" is a "god of love"?

Is that what you're implying?

He won't be if you die as an unrepentant sinner.

 

[fiat_money]

He won't be if you die as an unrepentant sinner.

Alright, since other humans have died before me--in fact, most humans are already dead--"God" must not be a "god of love".

 

[TX_Made713]

It's been proven through the prophesies from those prophets of YHWH ..what else do you need, b?

No. The Assyrian empire included Ninevah...they were a wicked city in idol worship and was prophesied to be destroyed because they didn't worship the true Most High.

says the religious scrolls/txt/etc.

i could write i just seen the lockness monster and put the shit in a bottle. so in a couple thousand years does it make it true?

everything your saying is coming out of the bible. my original question is how can you prove someone didnt make all that shit up? you cant

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Alright, since other humans have died before me--in fact, most humans are already dead--"God" must not be a "god of love".

If you die an unrepentant sinner, you will never experience the love of God again.

God will always be a God of love, but the love God bestowed upon you in this life will be absent in the life to come. That is, if you die as an unrepentant sinner.

You can avoid that judgment if you turn your heart to Jesus Christ right now. If you do you will inherit all things in the world to come. Will you surrender today?

 

[fiat_money]

If you die an unrepentant sinner, you will never experience the love of God again.

God will always be a God of love, but the love God bestowed upon you in this life will be absent in the life to come. That is, if you die as an unrepentant sinner.

You can avoid that judgment if you turn your heart to Jesus Christ right now. If you do you will inherit all things in the world to come. Will you surrender today?

But if "God" is omnipresent and a "god of love", his "love" would be omnipresent as well. For if I am in a place that the omnipresent "God" is within, yet the "love" of "God" is absent from that place, then "God" must not be loving in all places or at all times. So, "God" can't be a "god of love", if his "love" is conditional.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

But if "God" is omnipresent and a "god of love", his "love" would be omnipresent as well. For if I am in a place that the omnipresent "God" is within, yet the "love" of "God" is absent from that place, then "God" must not be loving in all places or at all times. So, "God" can't be a "god of love", if his "love" is conditional.

Eternal death is seperation from God. All those who refuse to accept Him will be ETERNALLY seperated from Him. How you rationalize that in your own mind is your call. But The reality of it is far more graphic than anybody can ever imagine.

 

[fiat_money]

Eternal death is seperation from God. All those who refuse to accept Him will be ETERNALLY seperated from Him. How you rationalize that in your own mind is your call. But The reality of it is far more graphic than anybody can ever imagine.

Oh, I see, so "God" isn't omnipresent. Since you can't be separated from something that is everywhere.

Productive discussion.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

"9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." Revelation 14:9-11

Yeah, very productive!

 

[The Lonious Monk]

1. Hell wasn't created for human beings my brother. Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Matthew 25:41

2. God prepared the way of escape before He even created the universe. "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Revelation 13:8

3. Eternal death and eternal torment are one in the same. Hell is not a place of rest, thus the wicked will be tormented day and night forever and ever. "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." Revelation 14:11

4. Nobody on earth truly understands the EXCEEDING SINFULNESS OF SIN. Sin is an offense to God. It is an abomination. If the wicked will not have Christ as their Savior, they will have Him as their judge. Sin must be dealt with. And a Holy, Just, and Righteous God will deal with it at the great white throne judgment. And I can guarantee you that when all of Gods creative intelligences are assembled for this great and dreadful day, we will all praise Him for being JUST, RIGHTEOUS, TRUE, and HOLY.

Everybody will get a fair trial at the great white throne. And because it will be fair, the wicked will have no hope. God have mercy!

None of that addresses the issue. Yes, Jesus' sacrifice gives us an opportunity for salvation. That's wonderful. It is the thing that he is saving us from that is the problem. There is no way that you can spin eternal suffering as being a merciful conclusion. It just isn't. You make it seem like God has no choice in the matter. We are hellbound and the only way that we could be saved is through Jesus. God is all powerful remember. He could easily make it so that sinners simply cease to exist. That would be far more merciful.

I'll put it like this. I don't think humans are merciful creatures at all. In fact we're pretty vengeful and mean spirited when it comes down to it. But even most humans aren't capable of anything comparable to that punishment. Think about it. It would be like you spanking you kid for an hour straight for lying about eating a cookie. No loving parent would ever do that to his/her child. No loving parent every could.

 

[kids in america_]

‘god’ is going to save the whole world.

"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour: Who WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." (1 Tim. 2:3-6, KJV)

 

[kids in america_]

The traditional Christendom teaching, that when bad people die they go to some place of ‘eternal’ torture in fire is pagan in origin. smh @threadstarter

You bad man. You very bad man!

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Just because you may believe that the wicked will not be punished in hell, doesn't negate the reality that they will be. Just like you can believe that the sky is pink your whole life, but the reality is still the truth and the truth will always stand.