Questions and Statements about God...

[DRO]

faith without works mean nothing.

yeah ... I know....

 

[mryounggun]

so u do believe in christ.. But u also believe that you dont have 2 believe in christ in order to get to heaven? Long as u live good, do good and god will say ok.. U dont believe in my son, but since u did good on earth, i will let u slide?... Wow....

Yes, that's exactly how I look at it. How do you know for a fact that that isn't exactly how it is?

 

[DRO]

yes, that's exactly how i look at it. How do you know for a fact that that isn't exactly how it is?

cause the words of the bible dont accord with ur logic....therefore thats not how it is.....

I have never in my life heard a believer in christ with that logic...

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

I wasnt paying attention to the example, stupid me oh well....

So you dont think death existed before humans? Really? How did the other animals become nonexistent then? Did they travel to another planet leaving behind plaster casts of themselves as a form of art?

It's not a matter of "thinking" that death existed before humans, it's a matter of "knowing with 100% surety" that death never existed before humans.

"For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man." 1 Corinthians 15:21

I don't know what your not getting Vibe, but death never existed prior to humanity introducing death into the world because of sin. Sin is the bringer of death. SIN IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF EVERYTHING WRONG AND IT"S ORIGINATOR IS THE DEVIL!

We need to get past elementary subjects Vibe. The time is to short to be contemplating subjects such as this.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

i remember that....

Bruh...

Heaven.. God... Faith.. Christ.. All ties into each other...

If god says that you must believe that jesus died for our sins and we must have faith...

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

cause the words of the bible dont accord with ur logic....therefore thats not how it is.....

I have never in my life heard a believer in christ with that logic...

Yeah me neither.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Yes, that's exactly how I look at it. How do you know for a fact that that isn't exactly how it is?

This is an excerpt of what you said in post #178:

"It's not just picking and choosing what parts of the bible you want to follow."

So how can you say what you said, but yet ignore one of the most important verses in the Bible?

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6

I just don't get how you can say what you said and come to the conculsion you have come to without you "picking and choosing what parts of the Bible you will follow."

No one will go to heaven apart from Jesus Christ. That is the finality of everything. Apart from Jesus Christ, you will be lost! There ain't no sugar coating with God.

 

[mryounggun]

cause the words of the bible dont accord with ur logic....therefore thats not how it is.....

I have never in my life heard a believer in christ with that logic...

Right, I get that part. But that's my point: Why do you believe that the words of the Bible are an accurate depiction of not only what actually took place the age of Christ, but also of his actual teachings? Like how exactly do you know that the Bible is 100% accurate, B?

If you can answer that honestly and directly, then you and I have a lot more to talk about, mayne. Lol. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing, there are just some opinions and ways of thinking that I don't understand. Maybe you can help me out.

 

[mryounggun]

This is an excerpt of what you said in post #178:

"It's not just picking and choosing what parts of the bible you want to follow."

So how can you say what you said, but yet ignore one of the most important verses in the Bible?

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6

I just don't get how you can say what you said and come to the conculsion you have come to without you "picking and choosing what parts of the Bible you will follow."

No one will go to heaven apart from Jesus Christ. That is the finality of everything. Apart from Jesus Christ, you will be lost! There ain't no sugar coating with God.

No offense, but it's already been determined that you and I don;t even really speak the same language in terms of religious discussion. So there really isn't any point in continuing to try to understand one another's logic. No hard feelings though. God Bless.

 

[DRO]

right, i get that part. But that's my point: Why do you believe that the words of the bible are an accurate depiction of not only what actually took place the age of christ, but also of his actual teachings? Like how exactly do you know that the bible is 100% accurate, b?

If you can answer that honestly and directly, then you and i have a lot more to talk about, mayne. Lol. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing, there are just some opinions and ways of thinking that i don't understand. Maybe you can help me out.

how can i be sure that the bible is 100% accurate.. Through prayer and an understanding from god......

Revelations

18for i testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, god shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, god shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

So either way im covered....

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

No offense, but it's already been determined that you and I don;t even really speak the same language in terms of religious discussion. So there really isn't any point in continuing to try to understand one another's logic. No hard feelings though. God Bless.

It's about truth, not about logic. And only the Holy Spirit can give it to you. May He lead you into it. Amen.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

how can i be sure that the bible is 100% accurate.. Through prayer and an understanding from god......

Revelations
18for i testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, god shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, god shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

So either way im covered....

Amen my brother. Preach the gospel my friend.

 

[mryounggun]

It's about truth, not about logic. And only the Holy Spirit can give it to you. May He lead you into it. Amen.

Thank you.

 

[mryounggun]

how can i be sure that the bible is 100% accurate.. Through prayer and an understanding from god......

Revelations

18for i testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, god shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, god shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.



So either way im covered....

That's where you lost me, B. According to the bolded, it seems like you are using what is in the Bible as proof that the Bible is 100% true and accurate. That's defining a word and using that word in the definition. Can't be done.

But according to the first part of your reply, you know the bible is true through prayer and understanding from God. Meaning you prayed for enlightenment and God spoke to you about it?

Let's be clear, I'm not trying to be funny at all. I just want to be sure that we understand one another and right now I don't really understand where you are coming from. I might be a little slow, admittedly. Break it down for me, B.

how exactly do you know that the Bible is 100% accurate?

 

[DRO]

that's where you lost me, b. According to the bolded, it seems like you are using what is in the bible as proof that the bible is 100% true and accurate. That's defining a word and using that word in the definition. Can't be done.

But according to the first part of your reply, you know the bible is true through prayer and understanding from god. Meaning you prayed for enlightenment and god spoke to you about it?

Let's be clear, i'm not trying to be funny at all. I just want to be sure that we understand one another and right now i don't really understand where you are coming from. I might be a little slow, admittedly. Break it down for me, b.

How exactly do you know that the bible is 100% accurate?

once again.. Through prayer and askin for understanding from god... God aint gone lead me into no lie...so i know the bible is 100%

for instance.. I am noooo where near as good as dou' in pulling up scriptures for anything some body on here says

but when im on here, its like god is giving me stuff to say until i can can just drop supporting scriptures at the drop of a dime

 

[mryounggun]

once again.. Through prayer and askin for understanding from god... God aint gone lead me into no lie...so i know the bible is 100%

for instance.. I am noooo where near as good as dou' in pulling up scriptures for anything some body on here says

but when im on here, its like god is giving me stuff to say until i can can just drop supporting scriptures at the drop of a dime

I'm still confused, Dro. Where's the evidence that the Bible is accurate? Not why you believe it is. 'Through prayer and askin for understanding from god'. Again, what exactly does that mean. You're kinda speaking in a very ambiguous way. Did you pray for understanding one evening and then soon after you were confronted with some sort of sign that you took as confirmation and answer to your prayers?

And if the answer to that question is 'Because I have faith that the Bible is accurate and thats enough for me.' - which by the way I feel like is the only credible answer to that specific question - then why not just say that? Not saying that actually IS your answer. Just an example.

Help me out.

 

[DRO]

i'm still confused, dro. Where's the evidence that the bible is accurate? Not why you believe it is. 'through prayer and askin for understanding from god'. Again, what exactly does that mean. You're kinda speaking in a very ambiguous way. Did you pray for understanding one evening and then soon after you were confronted with some sort of sign that you took as confirmation and answer to your prayers?

And if the answer to that question is 'because i have faith that the bible is accurate and thats enough for me.' - which by the way i feel like is the only credible answer to that specific question - then why not just say that? Not saying that actually is your answer. Just an example.

Help me out.

.. I cant answer how u want me to, only how i know how..

U want me 2 say that i saw with my own eyes that god wrote the bible.. I cant say that...

All i can say is i have faith that it is the truth... Thats all bruh... Nothing more

 

[universaltruth]

.. I cant answer how u want me to, only how i know how..

U want me 2 say that i saw with my own eyes that god wrote the bible.. I cant say that...

All i can say is i have faith that it is the truth... Thats all bruh... Nothing more

It takes more then faith to enter the Kingdom of God, your hearts in the right direction, but your head is fixated on the cover, refusing to dig deeper. The Bible will teach you more if you let it, your letting being a Christian stop you from being one with God.

 

[Ishi]

That's the thing there is no logic to it.

Its solely based on pure belief..

Think how that mentality would play out in other situation in life and you would see it as pure foolishness to just believe i in something with no logic to it but put into a religious context you just blindly follow.

 

[mryounggun]

.. I cant answer how u want me to, only how i know how..

U want me 2 say that i saw with my own eyes that god wrote the bible.. I cant say that...

All i can say is i have faith that it is the truth... Thats all bruh... Nothing more

Na, son. That's where you're wrong. I don't want you to say that at all. I know you didn't see that. I'm not that cynical, mayne. Like I said, 'I just have faith' isa fine answer. My only thing is, why not just say that to begin with? the problem I have is when people try to actually PROVE the existence of God and PROVE that the events depicted in the Bible took place the way it says or took place at all. You didn't see it since you weren't there. Neither was I. But you have faith that it's true. Which again is FINE. That's the only answer that you need to give people. When people try to PROVE things in a religious context, it's an exercise in futility usually. I'd much rather someone tell me that they just have faith, than to make up some bullshit. That means that they have at least acknowledged that their ability to verify any of the info presented is limited, but that doesn't shake them to their core and make them stop believing.

Can we at least agree on that before we go any further? That 'faith' is the only explanation that needs to be given for a person's belief in the Bible?

When a nigga asks me why I believe that God exists, that's the answer I give them. I can't prove anything to them in regards to his existence. It's not possible. So I don't even try.