Question: Can you WILLINGLY deny the deity of Jesus Christ and still be saved?

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zombie;6817643 said:
Darth Sidious;6817345 said:
zombie;6816883 said:
Jesus calling himself the son of god is not that big of a deal it's calling himself the son of man that is more important and has a deeper meaning but that's going over most of you fools heads

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In the old testament many people are given the title son of god the entire nation of israel is called sons of god. It is the title son of man that is greater.

Son of man is not God either so your replies to him have nothing to do with anything. Son of man or Son of God is still not is God.

 
INCREDIBLE_DRO;6692471 said:
DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS?

IF THIS IS WHAT IT IS, THEN I CAN COME INTO BETTER GRIPS WITH THE EXPLANATION OF THE WHOLE THING

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I see it as this, you have a family and a son that carries the characteristics of you but outside of that family if someone else's child misbehaves, that child is not particularly your son but if your son ask you to take that child in as his, you would treat him as so, all the other children are not yours. They have their own parents.

 
I'm under the impression god doesn't not judge you for what you do not know, so seeing as how we will never know the truth about religion ,how can we be judged? ?
 
HyenaKilla;6822976 said:
INCREDIBLE_DRO;6692471 said:
DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS?

IF THIS IS WHAT IT IS, THEN I CAN COME INTO BETTER GRIPS WITH THE EXPLANATION OF THE WHOLE THING

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That flowchart is fundamentally imperfect & logically flawed. Nowhere does it describe what God is not, & suggests an infinite loop of contradictions & imbalance. If all members of an all-male trinity(nh) is God, every corresponding counterpart excluded ie: Mother, Daughter, Reality,etc... must not be God. Or maybe it's left incomplete & purposely distorted to exclude the others for whatever sinister reason.


I'm having a problem understanding how THE FATHER is not THE SON but both THE FATHER and THE SON are GOD. Logically, if THE FATHER and THE SON were indeed GOD, then THE FATHER would be THE SON.
 
SugaBuga;6822955 said:
I'm under the impression god doesn't not judge you for what you do not know, so seeing as how we will never know the truth about religion ,how can we be judged? ?

God judges based on the light you have received. The book of Romans goes into great detail about this. That is why we have a conscience that convicts us of right and wrong. But thanks be to God that you don't have to stand before His judgment seat on the last day if you accept the sacrafice He provided through His Son, the LORD Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ bore the punishment that sin deserves on the cross. He bore the judgment for sin and by His stripes all who confess Him as Lord and Savior are healed. Thus, no one who accepts Jesus as their savior will ever be judged for their sins because Jesus already bore the punishment on calvary 2,000 years ago. Hallelujah!

"But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed." Isaiah 53:5

 
HyenaKilla;6822976 said:
INCREDIBLE_DRO;6692471 said:
DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS?

IF THIS IS WHAT IT IS, THEN I CAN COME INTO BETTER GRIPS WITH THE EXPLANATION OF THE WHOLE THING

2lnzls8.png

That flowchart is fundamentally imperfect & logically flawed. Nowhere does it describe what God is not, & suggests an infinite loop of contradictions & imbalance. If all members of an all-male trinity(nh) is God, every corresponding counterpart excluded ie: Mother, Daughter, Reality,etc... must not be God. Or maybe it's left incomplete & purposely distorted to exclude the others for whatever sinister reason.


God is a spirit so your point is invalid.
 
Oceanic ;6825558 said:
HyenaKilla;6822976 said:
INCREDIBLE_DRO;6692471 said:
DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS?

IF THIS IS WHAT IT IS, THEN I CAN COME INTO BETTER GRIPS WITH THE EXPLANATION OF THE WHOLE THING

2lnzls8.png

That flowchart is fundamentally imperfect & logically flawed. Nowhere does it describe what God is not, & suggests an infinite loop of contradictions & imbalance. If all members of an all-male trinity(nh) is God, every corresponding counterpart excluded ie: Mother, Daughter, Reality,etc... must not be God. Or maybe it's left incomplete & purposely distorted to exclude the others for whatever sinister reason.


I'm having a problem understanding how THE FATHER is not THE SON but both THE FATHER and THE SON are GOD. Logically, if THE FATHER and THE SON were indeed GOD, then THE FATHER would be THE SON.

You can't use logic when trying to understand the infinte. God is wholly other. He is incomprehensible. Logic and God don't compute because the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. The trinity is meant to be explained, understood, or grasped. The triune Godhead is to be accepted and believed by faith. Nothing more and nothing less.

"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6

That scripture will not return to God void. It's only by faith that God can be known. Not by logic. Amen.

 

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