INCREDIBLE_DRO;6692427 said:
OK...
LET ME EXPLAIN..
I BELIEVE IN GOD, JESUS (THE SON) AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
IF U OR ANYONE READS THE BIBLE.. THERE ARE SCRIPTURES THAT PROVIDE PROOF THAT GOD AND JESUS ARE THE SAME.. AND AT THE SAME TIME, THAT THEY ARE NOT...
1... FATHER FATHER, WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME... IF THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.. WHO IS GOD'S FATHER?
2. WHO DID JESUS PRAY TO WHILE ON EARTH?..
3. FATHER FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO?
4. FATHER, PLS LET THIS CUP PASS FROM ME....
I CAN GO ON AND ON ON WHY ME AND OR OTHER THINK THAT GOD AND JESUS ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON...
THAT DOESNT TAKE AWAY THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THAT GOD SENT HIS SON TO DIE FOR OUR SINS..
ITS JUST HARD TO GRASP THE CONCEPT WITH A HUMAN MIND..
The trinity can't be comprehended by our finite human minds, God only asks that we believe! Faith is what saves, not logic. If we could understand God fully and comprehend His eternal majesty, why would we serve Him? God is beyond us. His ways are not our ways, neither are His thoughts our thoughts. As far as the heavens are above the earth so are His ways and His thoughts compared to ours.
What we can understand is that Jesus Christ was fully God and fully man at the same time. How is that possible? Well with God ALL things are possible. And in the scriptures we see Jesus demonstrate both His deity as well as His humanity. We see that Jesus raised the dead, forgave sins, performed miracles, accepted worship, never sinned etc. All those signs point to His deity. But at the same time we see that Jesus was also a man. He hungered, he thirst, he cried, he slept, he was tempted, and he humbled himself by being in total submission to the will of the Father. That is why He cried out to the Father. Jesus Christ didn't come to exercise His own will as God, but He submitted Himself to the Fathers will in order to provide and leave an example for other human beings to follow.
Jesus Christ was fully man and yet fully God. But in order to truly live as a man, He gave up the right to exercise His own will as God; instead He was subject to the Fathers will. Which is how mankind was designed to live from the beginning. We must subject our wills to the Fathers will, and Jesus Christ demonstrated how mankind was designed to live by fulfilling ALL the law and never sinning.
I accept these things by faith because that is what the scripture teaches. I can't rationally or logically explain how God can exist as 3 separate persons but yet still be 1. Nor can I explain how God had no beginning and will have no end. Nor can I explain how God created the universe with the word of His mouth. These things are unexplainable by human reason. But God doesn't expect us to explain those things, all He asks is that we trust Him by believing in Him. And that is what I do. I believe the word of God totally, fully, and truly! Amen. That is what saves. That is saving faith! Do you believe God? That is the question. Not do you understand the mind, will, counsel, and actions of God? Because no man can understand those things. God is infinite and we are finite. Amen.