Elzo69Renaissance
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I live like 3 4 blocks away...me driving past
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The Lonious Monk
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Trillfate;c-9692842 said:
Let me ask you a question. Real talk. If you caught someone stealing from you, would you let it slide, call the police and let them handle it or would you confront the person? I'm not saying the guy doesn't deserve to be punished, but is this really worth a large scale protest and why is it being turned into a race issue? Did he say something racist? Does that store have a history of being racist? I mean people are protesting in Chicago. They have absolutely no idea what the people in that NC store are like.
People are in here saying this is the reason you should support black stores. You should support black stores, but this ain't the reason. Niggas beat the shit out of thieves too. Is that ok because I damn sure haven't seen this reaction in those cases.
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Valentinez A. Kaiser
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Elzo69Renaissance;c-9693301 said:
Shit if it was me, I'd have drove by like
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5th Letter
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Protesting is one step but we need some action to go along with that protest.
desertrain10
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The Lonious Monk;c-9693261 said:
what????
not as if it matters, but the store owner has handed over no proof that the woman was shop lifting
so let's not concede just yet, that she was....if i'm wrong correct me
and having walked into many of asian run beauty supply stores, i can tell you a lot of the clerks are often rude ....and some treat you like criminals soon as you walk in for no reason....could it be that i am blk, maybe...wouldn't be surprised if he jumped the gun
that said, whether of not this man is racist, he handled the situation very poorly... dude literally kicked her and than wrestled her to the ground after this woman even offered to let him check her bag
regardless of the race he was i'd take issue with it
so if the community wants to rally behind this woman, good. the store could have a history of mistreating their customers for all we know
its crazy to me anyone would try to justify the actions of this man or mock a protest
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The Lonious Monk
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desertrain10;c-9693350 said:
Look, I'll be honest. I don't care about thieves getting roughed up, and that's coming from someone who used to steal. If I got caught and got roughed up, I deserved it.
If the dude was wrong and she didn't steal, he deserves to be punished. If he was right and she did steal, but he broke the law, he deserves to be punished. I have no objections there.
My problem is with the bold. Do the people protesting know of a history of racism or a history of mistreating customer that legitimately didn't do anything? If not, why are they bringing race into it? Why are they treating this incident as an attack on the community. Why are they protesting a store halfway across the country that may have minimal influence on the store where the incident occurred. I know people nowadays think everything needs to be protested, but there is a such thing as oversaturation. If you have the same reaction to everything, then sooner or later people become desensitized to that reaction. How long do you think it will be before no one cares about protests anymore?
konceptjones
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desertrain10;c-9693350 said:
but we was cool with this shit tho...
Niggas ain't finally stop shopping at these places sorry, until yall stop putting that dumb as weave in yall head then yall gonna stay getting disrespected, it's a sign that u don't like yourself the way you are , that leads to people disrespectin you, if black women stop putting weav e in their hair , Niggas ain't gonna stop fucking yall. I think yall trying to compete with white women for their men to on the low,
obnoxiouslyfresh
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The Lonious Monk;c-9693261 said:
You know I'd love to give your face a fresh slap for the bold. Of course, there is a history of racism. It pains me to see so many clearly intelligent people squabbling when the facts are there plain to see. Asians open stores in largely Black lower class neighborhoods because they are taking advantage of the lower rents and willingness of Black customers to pay high prices, not because they wanna fuckin fellowship with us. Then, they treat the customers like shit. They rarely ever live in those neighborhoods. They live wherever they find white neighbors. Which is why, in any city you care to visit, you will see Asians tagging whites on any day of the week. Yet, you will grow a beard before you see an Asian even having a social conversation with a Black man, woman or child. Rarely do Asians spend time with Blacks. They seek out white associations, daily. Go look for yourself.
2stepz_ahead
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the way i see it....this should not be boycotted without proof.
if she stole...
she gave away her power by trying to steal.
we must stop giving people reasons to act like fools.
would you be angry if someone tried to steal from your store?
im not saying what he did was right but she gàve him a reason to respond how he wanted.
if he did it on his own...then boycott him.
we must understand we must pick an choose what to stand for.
this is encouraging more behavior like this. she was wrong if she was stealing.
we can't stand for every person because they are black. because they are all not innocent. we need to stand for our people who was in the right.
if she stole...
she gave away her power by trying to steal.
we must stop giving people reasons to act like fools.
would you be angry if someone tried to steal from your store?
im not saying what he did was right but she gàve him a reason to respond how he wanted.
if he did it on his own...then boycott him.
we must understand we must pick an choose what to stand for.
this is encouraging more behavior like this. she was wrong if she was stealing.
we can't stand for every person because they are black. because they are all not innocent. we need to stand for our people who was in the right.
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2stepz_ahead
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D. Morgan;c-9693874 said:
that's why I said if she did steal
shit I don't like how much power we. give them regardless
The Lonious Monk
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obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9693860 said:
I asked you a direct question about this particular store and you gave me a stereotypical rant about Asians. lol Come on @obnoxiouslyfresh. Everything you say may be true, but if you don't have any evidence about this particular store or that particular employee, you can't go around accusing that person of doing something solely out of racism. That's crazy. And what makes it crazier is that whenever that shit is done to black people, ya'll have a fit. What if you had a conflict with someone and bunch of people said you were wrong and their only proof for that was a generic rant about "what black people do."
I have my perceptions of Asians. I've met some that don't fit into that mold. Where I live is a black area and it has a lot of Asian owned businesses. For the most part they are friendly and they even hire people out of the community to work, which is unusal for Asian businesses. But for the most part, in my experience your assessment, is correct. That said, if an incident pops off, I'm not just going to assume the worst of an Asian person solely because that person is Asian. That's pretty much the definition of bigotry. If you're a bigot and proud, then it's all good, but I at least try not to be that.
obnoxiouslyfresh
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The Lonious Monk;c-9694014 said:
That store is a mile from my house and I have not patronized it enough to give you a full assessment of this man's character. I could care less and I really don't need much convincing to decide to not run and give my money to some fuckin Asians. I literally only need to see a video of him choking a black woman out in a store. We have decades long history with Asian shop owners when it comes to their treatment of black customers. The onus aint on me to seek out information regarding who this individual Asian man is. That aint how my cash flow works. If you enjoy spending your money with them, by all means. But, why knock somebody else cause you "hate when people protest shit like that." We dont owe those people shit. They better learn some respect.
The Lonious Monk
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obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9694054 said:
You're going off on a tangent that has nothing to do with anything I said. I don't care where you spend your money, so half the sentiment you're expressing is irrelevant. Besides, I'm one of the people on this board that has consistently said I wish black women would stop wearing fake hair and would start making their own nail salons. Again, I live in a black community and I don't understand why Asians have those markets cornered. But that's on black females, ya'll are the ones that live and die by that. So insinuating that I like giving money to "racist" Asians doesn't make much sense.
I asked if you had knowledge about the man or the store not because I believe you should patronize that store. I asked because you and those protesters are declaring that he and that business are racist. It's all well to speak generally about Asians and their treatment of blacks. However, if you're going to levy that accusation at someone specific, you might want to have some worthwhile evidence. Video of him wrestling with a chick that may have stolen from him can be seen as proof that he doesn't always respond reasonably to perceived offenses, but it, by itself, is not proof that he's racist. And I didn't knock anybody in particular, but I did say I don't like protests like this and I already explained why. I think it does damage to greater goals. We want fair treatment for our people. We use protests as a means to accomplish that. If we protest every situation without any thought to whether its warranted or not, protesting will lose its meaning. What is the goal the protesters in Chicago hope to accomplish here? They want to boycott and bring down a business that is related in some undisclosed way to another business in NC over an incident that might have been race related or might just be an overreaction to a petty crime by an owner or employee that may or may not represent the general feelings of the business? Is that really the goal?
If black people want to stop giving all their money to other races and start supporting their own, I'm with it. I say that as much or more than anyone on here. It shouldn't take an incident, which may not even be what you're making out to be, to get people to do that.
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konceptjones
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obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9694054 said:
I'mma give you my perspective on the bolded from a Detroit point of view, but it's applicable to pretty much every area where you have these businesses.
Damned near every time I've ever patronized a china shop, a Black person will either have JUST stolen from there, or was in the process of stealing from there. There was a spot over on Livernois and 7 mile back when I was in middle school and high school that kept a few video games in the front of the shop so I would stop there almost daily on the way home to play some Twin Cobra, Black Tiger, or whatever they had at the time. Theft by a Black male or female was a daily occurrence in that shop and I've personally witnessed *hundreds* of incidents where someone would walk in, grab some shit off the racks and bail outta there with the shop owner trying to chase 'em down.
The same shit would happen at damned near every china shop I ever visited in the city. Spot over on Grand River near the Rally's I went to with my ex-fiancee 'cause they had something we couldn't get out in Ypsi. One of the family that owned it was helping us and we were having decent convo while they were finding whatever it was we were looking for when we heard a woman say "hey! what are you doing?!" and 4 niggas popped up between the racks holding as many clothes as they could carry and bolted towards the door; they all got away. The person we were speaking to complained to us that guys come in to the store every day to steal.
Even out in Phoenix this happens, though you now shift from just Black folks to Blacks and Mexicans. The shop owners have been very vocal to the wife and I about their theft problems (why they feel comfortable enough with us to talk about it is still a mystery) and, like Detroit, it's a daily occurrence.
So, while you sit there talmbout "We have decades long history with Asian shop owners when it comes to their treatment of black customers." you're acting as if THEY don't have decades long history with the Black communities they're in and theft. After the shit happening for so long you get fed up and react more aggressively when shit goes down and what you see with ole dude in the video may be a result of it.
Let us not forget this either: Theft of merchandise is one of the single biggest reasons Black owned stores don't make it in our own communities. Shit, even Black owned restaurants have high incidents of theft to the point where they close up after maybe a year in business (some ain't even lucky enough to get a year in) so it ain't like we're just doing this bullshit to the China shops.
obnoxiouslyfresh
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The Lonious Monk;c-9694102 said:
I aint going off on a tangent. You said "I hate when people protest shit like this. It's probably wrong, but is a shopowner wrestling with someone who tried to steal from him worth this kinda response?" Well, guess what? It's worth that kind of response to some people. You seem hung up on giving careful consideration to this man and whether or not he may be racist or actually treated black customers with dignity prior to this event. I could care less about this Asian man and his business. His ass wouldn't spend a shiny nickel in a black owned business. Fuck all of em. Go to chinatown with your damn business or wherever the hell he from.
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obnoxiouslyfresh
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konceptjones;c-9694146 said:
@ the bold
But guess what? They can get the fuck out. Who the fuck asked them to come here. I dont feel an ounce of sympathy for em. They're not there for some kinda noble mission. We are their food. We are economic slaves to them. Slaves that have fattened the pockets of generation of Asians while contributing to the economic demise of your own people. Their main objective is to exploit blacks and take our money out of our community and there are even classes in Korea and China teaching them how to do the shit. They can kiss my ass. I hope the store shuts down by the end of the month.
desertrain10
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The Lonious Monk;c-9693375 said:
not caring about thieves getting roughed up, leads to ppl acting as judge, jury and executioner in the same breath...
are you ok with the police roughing up suspected criminals before they are convicted of any crime?
