President Ahmadinejad speaks about Bible Prophecy! Destruction of Babylon and the 10 kings!

[beenwize]

Yet the Bible says God WANTED the Israelites to be punished and enslaved by another nation while in Babylon. The black Hebrew Israelites believe god wanted blacks punished in America for 400 years so violence on earth was sowed by who?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Yet the Bible says God WANTED the Israelites to be punished and enslaved by another nation while in Babylon. The black Hebrew Israelites believe god wanted blacks punished in America for 400 years so violence on earth was sowed by who?

I dont agree with black Hebrew Israelites teaching TBH. I don't believe they worship the same God I worship. But to answer your question, violence being sown on the earth is the result of the sin nature in mankind. War is in the heart of man, not peace.

 

[alissowack]

If all that you are posting on this thread does come to pass, what does it really accomplish in the hearts of man?

What is the message? If everything that DoU describes does indeed happen, what is that supposed to make people think? That God is to be feared and followed or else he will kill you with nuclear weapons?

...and West B hits the nail on the head with this one. This is what I hoped @doyouwant2go2heaven would have seen. It is one thing to worship God out of love and another out of fear. You come prophesying what's going to happen to America as a motivator for believing in God. Why would anybody want to associate with a deity who creates the world only to "bully" it? If God so loved the world...why would He want to scare people into a choice? According to the Bible, God made it a point to tell people "Do not be afraid" because the issue was not about getting people caught up in being frightened into following Him. Jesus, in getting his disciples, didn't give them an ultimatum "Be my disciples or die!!!". He actually made it easy for them to choose him because he made the decision irresistible.

 

[Bodhi]

God accomplishes His purposes through mankind. The Bible tells us that God establishes kings and kingdoms for His sovereign will. One of the purposes that God has used America for was to be the greatest light the world has ever known outside of the nation of Israel. But just like Israel turned it's back on God, America has also turned it's back on God.

If god is omnipotent, he does not need to accomplish any purpose through man. It seems as if, to you, we are just pawns in his game to be used as he pleases for purposes unknown which is completely unacceptable to me. What is the point of molding America to be the nation it is and has been if god is omnipotent? Any point could have been made directly. Nobody in the past has witnessed America's full history which is currently continuing so to say that the point is a message to mankind or to save souls is a reach. You're being arrogant. America's history is not "godly" and it being the "greatest light the world has ever known" is your opinion based on your viewpoint.

And God uses the universal principle He always has used when dealing with people and nations. Reaping and sowing. Violence has been sowed upon the earth, thus violence will be reaped by the inhabitants of the earth. Amen.

You're saying this as if god is not to take any responsibility. You are at the same time preaching that violence and destruction will be brought to America solely by god's will. God is then fully responsible for his violent and destructive nature. The truly wise teach that violence births violence. Patience, love, and understanding is virtuous.

 

[Bodhi]

You say god condemns all nations that are founded by blood or oppression yet in the Bible he commands the Israelites to kill entire nations and take their land. Their are scriptures in the Bible commanding ppl to kill grandmas, babies, children, men and to keep all the virgin girls to be saved by those who just killed their family.

The bolded part of your comment is key. When God commands something to be done, we must do it. God ordered the slaughter of all the inhabitants of Canaan because judgment came upon them. The Israelites were Gods instrument in dispensing the judgment that came upon all the inhabitants of the land. When Abraham went to the promised land, The Bible tells us that God gave the inhabitants of the land of Canaan 400+ years to turn from their wicked ways.

How do you know god didn't command the Europeans to murder the natives, enslave the africans and construct a corrupt and hypocritical government and justice system? Apparently, he allowed it to happen; if he allows something to happen, it is his will. You say he used the Europeans to create a "great" nation founded on bloodshed, violence and injustice..and the reason he did this is because they carried the Bible while doing so... But then, you say he will destroy America because of its ungodly ways, but America is doing the same thing it has been from the beginning. It is still a Christian nation full of bad Christians who bully other nations and enforce corruption and hypocrisy. Nothing about this story screams "wisdom" which your god is supposed to possess.

 

[beenwize]

You say god condemns all nations that are founded by blood or oppression yet in the Bible he commands the Israelites to kill entire nations and take their land. Their are scriptures in the Bible commanding ppl to kill grandmas, babies, children, men and to keep all the virgin girls to be saved by those who just killed their family.

The bolded part of your comment is key. When God commands something to be done, we must do it. God ordered the slaughter of all the inhabitants of Canaan because judgment came upon them. The Israelites were Gods instrument in dispensing the judgment that came upon all the inhabitants of the land. When Abraham went to the promised land, The Bible tells us that God gave the inhabitants of the land of Canaan 400+ years to turn from their wicked ways.

How do you know god didn't command the Europeans to murder the natives, enslave the africans and construct a corrupt and hypocritical government and justice system? Apparently, he allowed it to happen; if he allows something to happen, it is his will. You say he used the Europeans to create a "great" nation founded on bloodshed, violence and injustice..and the reason he did this is because they carried the Bible while doing so... But then, you say he will destroy America because of its ungodly ways, but America is doing the same thing it has been from the beginning. It is still a Christian nation full of bad Christians who bully other nations and enforce corruption and hypocrisy. Nothing about this story screams "wisdom" which your god is supposed to possess.

Hey in the Bible God did just that.

Their are scriptures where he announces curses against one nation of ppl to be carried out by other nations of ppl. Such as being conqured, enslaved, killed and etc by another ppl but then also punishes the other nations after they carried oyt the punishments. The Bible is full of war prophecy instead of peaceful solutions.

 

[philly_soldier]

You say god condemns all nations that are founded by blood or oppression yet in the Bible he commands the Israelites to kill entire nations and take their land. Their are scriptures in the Bible commanding ppl to kill grandmas, babies, children, men and to keep all the virgin girls to be saved by those who just killed their family.

The bolded part of your comment is key. When God commands something to be done, we must do it. God ordered the slaughter of all the inhabitants of Canaan because judgment came upon them. The Israelites were Gods instrument in dispensing the judgment that came upon all the inhabitants of the land. When Abraham went to the promised land, The Bible tells us that God gave the inhabitants of the land of Canaan 400+ years to turn from their wicked ways.

How do you know god didn't command the Europeans to murder the natives, enslave the africans and construct a corrupt and hypocritical government and justice system? Apparently, he allowed it to happen; if he allows something to happen, it is his will. You say he used the Europeans to create a "great" nation founded on bloodshed, violence and injustice..and the reason he did this is because they carried the Bible while doing so... But then, you say he will destroy America because of its ungodly ways, but America is doing the same thing it has been from the beginning. It is still a Christian nation full of bad Christians who bully other nations and enforce corruption and hypocrisy. Nothing about this story screams "wisdom" which your god is supposed to possess.

I used to think like you. That God was a dick who left us here like bastard children all the while expecting us to be good kids. You judge God to such a degree that it will be measured out against you if you don't repent. If you live to sin then you will have 1000 years of purification to go through before you can cross the promised land. God allows things to happen, because Satan rules over this world. It was Adam's choice to sin against God and descend from the Garden of Eve. It was mankind's choice afterword to side with the fallen angels and serve them as gods. God still loved us more then we could love Him and sent us Jesus, so we could be free from the life and consequence of sin. Instead of commandments Jesus told us to Love thy God as thy only God and to love thy neighbor. The easiest things to do and people still can't love God half as much as He loved us. Why do you expect Him to come running to save us and confirm His existence when we still rebel against Him. Because of our Godlessness, Satan rules over us. He is on the back of your $1 dollar bill and he is the god in which america trusts. God created us and gave us free will hoping that we find our way back to him and instead we continue blaspheming, we continue hating each other, dividing ourselves hoping to receive something from nothing. Seek God Kingdom's first and all things will be given next. Not receive the world and then seek God. West Brooklyn as well as any other non believers, God has his hands wide open for you. He has given you all the warnings of what is coming because it must happen. Earth must be purified of Lucifer and the Nephilim influence so we can live in a sinless world where immortality is just the beggining. You right now live in the era of grace where your ticket to heaven is the Holy Spirit that is promised if you believe in His Son, but if you refuse him prior to the rapture/ascension, it will take death to receive His Kingdom. Get your ticket now while you're still alive. God bless.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

God accomplishes His purposes through mankind. The Bible tells us that God establishes kings and kingdoms for His sovereign will. One of the purposes that God has used America for was to be the greatest light the world has ever known outside of the nation of Israel. But just like Israel turned it's back on God, America has also turned it's back on God.

If god is omnipotent, he does not need to accomplish any purpose through man. It seems as if, to you, we are just pawns in his game to be used as he pleases for purposes unknown which is completely unacceptable to me. What is the point of molding America to be the nation it is and has been if god is omnipotent? Any point could have been made directly. Nobody in the past has witnessed America's full history which is currently continuing so to say that the point is a message to mankind or to save souls is a reach. You're being arrogant. America's history is not "godly" and it being the "greatest light the world has ever known" is your opinion based on your viewpoint.

And God uses the universal principle He always has used when dealing with people and nations. Reaping and sowing. Violence has been sowed upon the earth, thus violence will be reaped by the inhabitants of the earth. Amen.

You're saying this as if god is not to take any responsibility. You are at the same time preaching that violence and destruction will be brought to America solely by god's will. God is then fully responsible for his violent and destructive nature. The truly wise teach that violence births violence. Patience, love, and understanding is virtuous.

It seems like your taking the attributes of the true and living God, such as His omnipotence, and then constructing a "god" of your own imagination with those same attributes and defining how your "god" should act, behave, and think. All while using your template of the "god" you created and using that as a measuring stick for the truth that is being presented to you. Well quite frankly my friend that is complete foolishness. For one you are automatically limiting the infinite God to your finite mind, two you are looking at things through carnal eyes instead of spiritual eyes, and three you are failing to understand your place as a creature that God created.

This is an analogy of how you are acting my friend:

If I take a blank piece of paper and I start to draw on it with watercolor paint, what would happen if the paper all of a sudden started talking back to me and said it wanted me to use magic markers instead of watercolor paint? Would I listen to the paper that is talking back to me? Do I have to bow down to his will? Do I even have to acknowledge his request?

NO!

I am the creator and I do as I please! If the paper doesn't like what I am doing to it, I have the ability, power, and will to throw that paper away and forget about it forever! Instead of the paper being happy that I was giving it life, by using it and drawing on it, it was rebellious towards me and the love that I showed it.

The paper has no power to tell me that my will for using watercolor on it wasn't correct or right. But yet here you are acting exactly like the paper. Your telling God how He should act, how He should behave, how He should operate. You are rebellious to His word, rebellious to His love, rebellious to His will. You, like the paper, believe that your way is right, your ideas are correct, your knowledge is superior. All while giving no thought or care, that the Creator has the power to do as He pleases, even the power to destroy the rebellious creation if it continually rejects His love towards it.

We have to have humility my brother West Brooklyn. We don't have all the answers to life's question. Only God has all the answers my brother. Your worldview is clouded at the moment because you have not been born-again. You can't begin to understand the things of God, without having the Holy Spirit guide you into that truth. Your trying to tackle a elephant without first being able to digest milk. We have to start at the basics my brother. The basics is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. That is the foundation that everything must be built on. Because even if you did understand the end of the age, you would still be lost without Christ as your Savior. Therefore, I plead with you to consider what Jesus Christ did for you on Calvary some 2,000 years ago. I appeal to your conscience that is plagued with a thirst for the refreshing of the LORD. I seek the empty vacuum of your being that desires to be filled with the living presence of the Holy Spirit. God loves you my brother and He seeks to make Himself real to you. But you must humble yourself and realize your need for Him. Are you willing to receive the Savior for the remission of your sins and the guarantee of eternal life in Him?

 

[The True Flesh]

You know Ahmedinejad met with Rabbi's in NY on Friday.......the videos are all on youtube (for now)

There is a clear distinction between the Hebrew faith and Zionism. The media is perpetuating devilishness as usual. I am in full support of TRUE ISRAEL! which is still scattered among the nations. I would be a fool to get all stirred up in a frenzy posturing myself as a enemy of anyone who opposes Zionism. I'm telling you, all this preoccupation with geo-political exploits only serves to disallusion us from the SPIRITUAL WAR that is waging RIGHT NOW !!!

Yes! Bible prophecy IS being fulfilled right before our eyes, but are we percieving it correctly? if not we will begin to go down a very slippery slope to misunderstanding and deception.

God is in control in every way, Watch and be patient.......don't be presumptuous and accusatory.

FOLLOW TRUTH!!!

PEACE

 

[Bodhi]

If I take a blank piece of paper and I start to draw on it with watercolor paint, what would happen if the paper all of a sudden started talking back to me and said it wanted me to use magic markers instead of watercolor paint? Would I listen to the paper that is talking back to me? Do I have to bow down to his will? Do I even have to acknowledge his request?

This is how I see the analogy:

A painter (your god) creates a painting (a human). The painter creates Satan and evil by tilting the painting and commands the painting not to run (sin) before it dries (dies). It is in the painting's nature to run because it is liquid. It is not in the painter's nature to run and being vastly more intelligent than the painting (because it is an inanimate object, of course), the painter should understand that it is in the painting's nature to run, especially when tilted (tempted). The tilting was done by the painter because the painter created that situation. If the painting runs (or sins), responsibility falls on the painter, not the painting. It is not wise at all for the painter to throw the painting away because it ran before it dried up when the painter himself tilted the painting giving the painting reason to run in the first place.

what would happen if the paper all of a sudden started talking back to me and said it wanted me to use magic markers instead of watercolor paint? Would I listen to the paper that is talking back to me? Do I have to bow down to his will? Do I even have to acknowledge his request?

NO!

I am the creator and I do as I please! If the paper doesn't like what I am doing to it, I have the ability, power, and will to throw that paper away and forget about it forever! Instead of the paper being happy that I was giving it life, by using it and drawing on it, it was rebellious towards me and the love that I showed it.

The paper has no power to tell me that my will for using watercolor on it wasn't correct or right.

You sound like a cruel heartless dictator. If you truly loved the paper, you would at least listen to its request and if you were not to grant its wish, at least you would speak to the paper and explain why you chose to stick with your original plan. Do you have any children? Is that the way you treat them? Even in this hypothetical scenario, you've let your pride and ego as the creator affect your love, compassion and understanding toward your creation. You did not even give the paper time to explain why it requested markers rather than paint.

 

[Bodhi]

I used to think like you. Get your ticket now while you're still alive. God bless.

I also used to think like you. I thought that evil was because of satan and my argument ran like this: We deal with evil in the world because Adam gave the world to Satan by eating from the tree of knowledge. In this way, it's like if I give my friend a diamond. If my friend turns the diamond over to someone else, it is not moral for me to go to that 3rd party and demand the diamond back because I did not give the diamond to the third party. My friend was the responsible owner after I gave it over to him. Likewise, God cannot take the world from Satan because it is not moral to do so and God is all-wise and all-good. All he can do is direct us to him and it's up to us to make that choice. That argument works until you remember that God created Satan, and being all-knowing, he knew what would happen before he created him. So, ultimately, God is responsible for Satan and Adam's acts and everything occuring after that, simply because he willed it to happen. If he is omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent, anything he ALLOWS to happen is the exact same as DOING it.

 

[beenwize]

The three "holy" books of the three main religions depict a wrathful and misogynistic deity who later blackmailed humanity into bowing down to him by having his son (himself, oddly) murdered. A father who sends his son (regardless of the trinity) to die in order to get us to bow down to him? There is no altruism whatsoever in that act. That was selfish of God, having his son die in order for us to bow down to Him and call him Lord and Master, with we as his slaves and dissenters tortured for eternity with burning fire. Sounds more like a megalomaniacal dictator than a good and just god.

~ A.F.

 

[Bodhi]

@DoUwant2go2Heaven?

@philly_soldier

 

[BlackxChild]

If God didnt want Adam to eat the apple thdn why did hd put the tree up in the first place.