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jamacia;1179376 said:
lol
i knew somebody would post this
the entire song has been debunked
ras kas doesnt know shit lol
heres the thorough debunking:
http://www.epinions.com/content_4784496772
History is quite a touchy subject. It is amazing how much people could argue or fret about something that has already happened centuries prior and which they cannot change. I cannot criticize those who do as I am a huge history nerd and have many a time debated over it. History has always been one of the main studies of mankind, and as time goes by, so will it.
Before I get into this write-up, I just have to let all of you know: I am a big fan of Ras Kass. He is easily one of my favorite emcees and, in my opinion, the best thing to come out of the left coast. I disagree with some of his lyrics, but I can still respect his lyricism as well as his right to speak his opinions. That is what I value in a rapper like Ras Kass, in that they do not try to spit what the masses would want to hear, and perhaps no other song displays that mind-state as much as the underground classic “Nature of the Threat”. It is a famous track that attempts to cover world history closely, detailing the treatment of black people throughout it. I can certainly understand his intentions with this, but there were quite a few “facts” in here that he was criminally incorrect on, so I decided to review the song and point them out.
Before I cover what this song did wrong, I’ve got to give my dap. Hats off to Ras Kass because making a song that is 7 and a half minutes long with no pauses or chorus is no easy task. You can completely loathe him for what he believes in, but damn it, this son of a bitch can write. Ok…let’s just get into it.
“Let freedom ring with a buckshot, but not just yet
First we need to truly understand the nature of the threat
And a pale man walks in the threshold of darkness
Roughly 20,000 years ago the first humans evolved
with the phenotypical trait, genetic recessive
Blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin
Albinism apparently was a sin to the original man - Africans
So the mutants traveled North of the equator
Called Europeans later, the first race haters
So here's the Devil's alpha to the beta
Cause history's best qualified to teach one
Quoting German philosopher Schopenhauer
"Every white man is a faded or a bleached one"
Migration created further mutation
Genetic drifts, evolution through recombination
Adaptation to the climate
As the Caucus Mountain man reverted to that of a primate
Savage Neanderthals, until the late Paleolithic age
That's when the Black Grimaldi man came
With the symbol of the dragon, fire and art
Check cave paintings in France and Spain to the Venus of Willendorf”
Bold statements about a period of history that has very little information of which we can be sure about. The afrocentristic theme of the song kicks off with him suggesting that those who were fair colored just left Africa as it was looked down upon to be lighter skinned. He also calls them “mutants”. Well that’s certainly a great way to seem unbiased. I can’t comment much because nobody knows for sure what really happened during these ancient periods. I don’t even get the point he was trying to make with the Venus of Willendorf. What I know about that statue was that it was found in present day Austria and that it is one of the oldest pieces of artwork ever found. Same goes with the Cave Paintings…is he suggesting that these were done by Africans? Hmm…
"Around 2000 B.C. Southern Russians migrate in small units
Those who travel West populated Europe”
What the fuck? Russians? Sorry, but Russians don’t even exist until about 3 millenniums later. I think he means the Aryan tribes…
“Those who went East settled in Iran, known as Aryans
1500 B.C. some crossed the Khyber Pass into India and
created Hinduism, the first caste system, the origins of racism
A white dot on the forehead meant elite
The black dot - defeat; untrustable, untouchables
They wrote the holy Vedas in Sanskrit
That's the language that created Greek, German, Latin and English”
Ah, the Aryans, of course. He’s right about the Aryans coming from the what is now known as Iran…but he is way off on the date. 1500 B.C? The Aryans had already long settled in India by then and the Indus Valley civilization was thriving by 3000 BC. Not so sure about the Caste System being the origins of racism, as all cultures have been known to have racial prejudice in some form or another. The line about Sanskrit is actually true, as modern theorists have hit some breakthroughs that lead them to believe that Sanskrit is the origin of the European languages (and proving that the Aryans spread to Europe as well?)
“Now the Minoans around 2000 B.C.
Starts on the island of Crete, in the Agean Sea
The Greek culture begins Western Civilization
But "Western Civilization" means "White Domination"”
What pisses me off is his assumption that only white people are racist. Obviously Western Civilization would be dominated by whites…it’s mostly white people! Just as Ancient China was “Asian Domination” and African cultures were “Black Domination”. What does Ras Kass expect? Civil rights in 2000 BC?
“Myceneans learned from Kemet, called Egypt in Greek
It existed since at least 3000 B.C.
Creatin geometry and astronomy
This knowledge influenced Plato, Socrates and Hippocrates
Cause Imhotep, the real real father of medicine
Was worshiped in Greece and Rome in the form of a Black African”
The idea of the early Greeks taking their knowledge from Egypt is a mere assumption, as we cannot expect that an entire civilization started from mere borrowing. Besides, the Myceneans could not be a product of Egypt when there was already the Minoan civilization (which he mentioned, so he should know) that preceded them and who they eventually conquered. Plato and Socrates were two philosophers that were the first of their kind, I don’t see how much knowledge from Egypt could influence them for what they became known for. Imhotep is considered to be the first physician, but I’m not sure about how he was worshipped in Greece. I know that the Egyptians worshipped him so much that they eventually made him a God, but I don’t remember reading about him in Greece.
“The word Africa comes from the Greek "Aphrike"
meaning "without cold"; the word philosophy means "love of knowledge"
Stole from first man, Greek power expands
The first Greek fraternities band
The word gymnasium is Greek for "naked"
This was the place where adolescent boys were educated, and molested
This was accepted because Greek culture was homosexual
For example, Sappho trained girls on the island of Lesbos
Hence, the word lesbian ”
There are several suggestions on where the word “Africa” comes from, but I personally accept the same theory that Ras does. One of the more well-known points in this track is his accusation of Greece’s homosexuality. I really don’t see how a culture can be homosexual…because if it was – how would they pro-create and reproduce? I am well aware that bisexuality was prominent among men, but this was more of a fad for the prominent males, if you will. It was thought that women were inferior, so many of the important or intelligent men spent a lot of time together, and tried their hand at making love as well. Yes, I know, sounds strange…but I don’t think it was a naturally homosexual civilization. The point about the Island of Lesbos is true, however.
“December 25th, the birth of Saturn
A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk,
Fucked each other then beat their wife
Fact is, it was still practiced, till they called it Christmas
So put a gerbil on your Christmas list”
How is Saturn a homosexual god when he considered to be the father of all the main gods in Greek Mythology? Doesn’t make sense to me. The rest just seems Ras Kass is trying to belittle Christmas for some “evil origins”.
“The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
Conquers all the way to India leavin four successor states
By the Fifth century B.C., R.O.M.E.
succeeds to be the conqueror of Egypt and Greece
But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege”
5th Century BC? By then the Romans had not even left the Italian peninsula. The Roman Principate only started in 31 BC. He’s right with the dates for the Punic wars…but he is wrong about those Phoenicians. Black Phoenicians? Is he serious? The Phoenicians were a Semetic people, meaning they were about as black as Saddam Hussein. They were typical Middle Eastern people. I guess having ANY color to your skin means that you are black, to Ras Kass.
CONT IN MY NEXT POST
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