Iheart~Cali
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The vast majority of films have plot holes of some sort. They never bother me unless they're just extreme.
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Iheart~Cali;4258266 said:The vast majority of films have plot holes of some sort. They never bother me unless they're just extreme.
elgato;4257594 said:The fight scenes in Kill Bill and 30 Days of Night (or any other fight scene where it's 20 vs. 1).
When 20 people have one person surrounded, why do they attack the person one by one. If all 20 of you jumped the person at the same time, you'd win. But no, instead for some dumb reason (better yet, for theatrical purposes), they let 1 person attack at a time. And then all 20 end up dead.
How the hell can Uma Therman's character beat up the entire Crazy 88 squad? There were like 200 of them. And they never jumped her. They just approached her 1 by 1. When one got killed, then the next one would attack. So unrealistic.
And how come 20 vampires can't kill one guy (Josh Hartnett)?
copperkid27;4258426 said:elgato;4257594 said:The fight scenes in Kill Bill and 30 Days of Night (or any other fight scene where it's 20 vs. 1).
When 20 people have one person surrounded, why do they attack the person one by one. If all 20 of you jumped the person at the same time, you'd win. But no, instead for some dumb reason (better yet, for theatrical purposes), they let 1 person attack at a time. And then all 20 end up dead.
How the hell can Uma Therman's character beat up the entire Crazy 88 squad? There were like 200 of them. And they never jumped her. They just approached her 1 by 1. When one got killed, then the next one would attack. So unrealistic.
And how come 20 vampires can't kill one guy (Josh Hartnett)?
these arent plot holes
SuperstarCole;4258729 said:My cousin pointed this out to me but in spiderman 1 and spiderman 3, peter parker's uncle died on opposite sides of the street.
lighthearted26;4254602 said:Wrong turn 4. They lock the hillbillies up in a jail cell at one point but decide not to set them on fire, instead leaving them there alive. I know horror movies have stupid shit all the time but this one took the cake. Stupidest shit I ever seen in any scary movie.
KingJamal;4250283 said:desertrain10;4250270 said:this is off topic and i know i'm late but i just seen 'the town' w/ ben affleck ...the acting was great but it was like a white boy's homage to 'set it off' ...f. gary gray should have grounds to sue
Yea I heard that movie ripped off Set It Off
blank davinci;4256790 said:Listen, Training Day is probably in my top 3 movies of all time.
I watched that movie maybe close to 40 times.
But I keep asking myself questions about certain scenes and happenings in the movie that I've always felt could have been scripted better.
Let me begin:
- When Jake froze up in Roger's house, not once but twice.. by not taking the money claiming he only "cashes in LAPD checks", and then when he refused to shoot Roger after Alonzo told him to. Why didnt Alonzo right then and there end his life? Why did he allow Jake to take his own gun, point it in his face with all his boys in the room, and order them not to shoot Jake? And to make things even more confusing, first thing Alonzo does when he hops in his car after that scene, is you see him on the phone with the Mexican, and he says very clearly "make sure that bathtub is clean".. meaning kill Jake and wash away the evidence.
- When Jake makes it out of the Mexican house alive, comes back all the way back to Nickerson Gardens looking for Alonzo.. he manages to find him, only for Alonzo to escape through the back window. Then, once they are on the roof, Alonzo gets the upper hand and beats Jake to sleep. But he lets him live. Why? After all the shit Alonzo put him through, wasnt he scared that Jake might wake up and regain conciousness and then snitch? Why not kill him once and for all and get rid of him?
Right now I cant think of my other issues with the storyline, but I have two or three more issues with the plot.
It just makes no sense that Alonzo let him live inside Rogers house. Why? Jake already clearly showed he was not going to be lured into becoming dirty.
blank davinci;4258895 said:Iheart~Cali;4258250 said:blank davinci;4256790 said:Listen, Training Day is probably in my top 3 movies of all time.
I watched that movie maybe close to 40 times.
But I keep asking myself questions about certain scenes and happenings in the movie that I've always felt could have been scripted better.
Let me begin:
- When Jake froze up in Roger's house, NJnot once but twice.. by not taking the money claiming he only "cashes in LAPD checks", and then when he refused to shoot Roger after Alonzo told him to. Why didnt Alonzo right then and there end his life? Why did he allow Jake to take his own gun, point it in his face with all his boys in the room, and order them not to shoot Jake? And to make things even more confusing, first thing Alonzo does when he hops in his car after that scene, is you see him on the phone with the Mexican, and he says very clearly "make sure that bathtub is clean".. meaning kill Jake and wash away the evidence.
- When Jake makes it out of the Mexican house alive, comes back all the way back to Nickerson Gardens looking for Alonzo.. he manages to find him, only for Alonzo to escape through the back window. Then, once they are on the roof, Alonzo gets the upper hand and beats Jake to sleep. But he lets him live. Why? After all the shit Alonzo put him through, wasnt he scared that Jake might wake up and regain conciousness and then snitch? Why not kill him once and for all and get rid of him?
Right now I cant think of my other issues with the storyline, but I have two or three more issues with the plot.
It just makes no sense that Alonzo let him live inside Rogers house. Why? Jake already clearly showed he was not going to be lured into becoming dirty.
Alonzo needed Jake as an alibi for Rogers death. The story they agreed on was that the new guy Jake shot Roger. Whenever an officer discharges his weapon, there's a lengthy investigation, paperwork, etc. The officers dealings are more closely scrutinized, and that's the last thing a guy like Alonzo or his crew needed. They were crooked, so they chose Jake because he's clean. He's a new officer with no skeletons that could potentially turn up under all that extra scrutiny. So they needed Jake alive for that purpose.
As far as the ending scene, Alonzo didn't have a gun when he was fighting Jake on the roofso he couldn't have killed him at that time. When Jake went to Eva's apartment, he had Alonzo put all his weapons in a pillowcase. Alonzo only had the shotgun strapped underneath the bed. it looked like a double barrel shotgun if I remember, and he definitely fired at least twice in the apartment, so without anymore bullets, he didn't have a weapon available to kill Jake. Plus he was trying to hurry and make his appointment with the Russians.
Ok so basically in the time after they leave Rogers house to the time they cut to Alonzo in the car on his phone with the Mexican, they must have explained the whole thing to the police.. That makes sense.
Still dont understand why Alonzo kept him around though considering Jake pulled the gun on him and refused to shoot Roger. And like I said, he was the only one who was against taking the money.
Like Dr Dre said all they had to do was kill Jake and make it look like Roger capped him when he was coming through the door.
But again what you said makes sense, they just skipped past that whole scene though.
As for the ending on the roof.. I think Alonzo did have two oppurtunities to finish Jake off. First when he climbs out the window and Jake follows him, he could have waited for him on the edge and threw him off the roof. And then secondly, Jake actually had a gun on the roof and when Alonzo catches him he wrestles it out of Jakes hand and it falls to the floor. He could have picked it up and finished him off but he beats him to a pulp and leave him unconcious on the roof instead.
Then you see him bring out another gun when Jake jumps on his car he could have easily stopped the car and shot him in his head.
But I think like the other dude said, only thing I can think of is they wrote the movie that particular way just to prolong it some more.
Iheart~Cali;4258266 said:The vast majority of films have plot holes of some sort. They never bother me unless they're just extreme.
desertrain10;4250270 said:this is off topic and i know i'm late but i just seen 'the town' w/ ben affleck ...the acting was great but it was like a white boy's homage to 'set it off' ...f. gary gray should have grounds to sue
elgato;4258881 said:copperkid27;4258426 said:elgato;4257594 said:The fight scenes in Kill Bill and 30 Days of Night (or any other fight scene where it's 20 vs. 1).
When 20 people have one person surrounded, why do they attack the person one by one. If all 20 of you jumped the person at the same time, you'd win. But no, instead for some dumb reason (better yet, for theatrical purposes), they let 1 person attack at a time. And then all 20 end up dead.
How the hell can Uma Therman's character beat up the entire Crazy 88 squad? There were like 200 of them. And they never jumped her. They just approached her 1 by 1. When one got killed, then the next one would attack. So unrealistic.
And how come 20 vampires can't kill one guy (Josh Hartnett)?
these arent plot holes
Can you not read the text following the slash in the thread title? /Shit that didn't make sense in Films.
ptowndonte;4235128 said:In Belly, did Method Man have a vest on? Cause ain't no way a nigga just gonna get blasted with a shotgun, fall, get right back up and hop in a Benz. And after the first half of Nas reading the minister's book, why all of a sudden was it a duty to kill him off? He had no impact on anything throughout the whole thing, but all of a sudden he gotta die