PLEASE STOP BUYING SEASON PASSES AND D.L.C BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!

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[Bcotton5]

Lol i love street fighter and i will probably put thousands of hours into sf5, but i aint buying the season pass.

Good thing everything can be unlocked by playing the game in street fighter 5

 

[ZydecoShawty]

The Call of Duty Black Ops 3 season pass cost damn near the same price as buying the game brand new which is fucking absurd. $65 for the game and another $55 for some extra fucking maps?

 

[PILL_COSBY]

Gran turismo nigga

LOL damn, I forgot all about grand turismo. Fortza done took they crown.

Lol i love street fighter and i will probably put thousands of hours into sf5, but i aint buying the season pass.

Good thing everything can be unlocked by playing the game in street fighter 5

LOL if this is true(which I doubt it is), then you shouldn't even buy the game. No why? MARK MY WORDS, super street fighter 5 turbo championship special alpha edition will drop 6 months later. I'm Pretty sure a gang of shit will be locked behind a pay wall dressed up as "D.L.C" like usual. After the MVC3 debacle, Capcom has gone COMPLETELY to shit! Don't get me started on them Resident evil games lol.

The Call of Duty Black Ops 3 season pass cost damn near the same price as buying the game brand new which is fucking absurd. $65 for the game and another $55 for some extra fucking maps?

SMH, you see there.......? It's too late for you call of duty sheep. Some hackers like 100 C.O.D games ago, found out that most of that content was already on the disc. Then in later games they found out that they purposely cut it to re-sale it later as "D.L.C". They also found out not too long ago this same thing happened to destiny "the taken king" D.L.C. What really makes it bad, is that most fans of the game said that was almost better than the base game smh.

The industry is slowly getting to call of duty status. Like some have said, it was getting that way last gen. But this gen, shit is getting worse and worse with each big release. It's not too late like it is for call of duty though. They just now starting to make this shit "a thing" They're not gonna stop until they stop suckering people out of shitloads of money.

 

[Turfaholic]

The Call of Duty Black Ops 3 season pass cost damn near the same price as buying the game brand new which is fucking absurd. $65 for the game and another $55 for some extra fucking maps?

$55 for some maps?

 

[PILL_COSBY]

Damn, say it ain't so. The IC is whining about DLC now. Come on. Some developers do pull some bullshit with DLC. That's true, but DLC isn't intrinsically bad. In fact, at it's core, it's a good thing.

For example, I bought the Bloodborne DLC. For $20, I basically got another 10-20 hours of gameplay and content for a game I loved. Why would I complain about that?

Street Fighter V is another example. Instead of making a bunch of different versions of the game as Capcom has done in the past. They are adding on that content as DLC. The important stuff (e.g. characters) can be earned for free or bought if you don't feel like putting in the work) and the extra stuff (e.g. alternate costumes) can be bought.

It all depends on how the DLC is done. If developers are out there making half-assed games and charging for content that would have been included from the beginning in the past. That's fucked up, but honestly that's not what's happening in the case of DLC. Not even MKX did that. The DLC was developed in part or fully after the game was released. DLC isn't free to make so I don't see why people believe it should be free for the customer.

THIS IS COMPLETELY FALSE!!!!!! I don't know how I missed this lol. Mortal Kombat just proved that they in fact did this with MK 10 XL coming in march lol. Don't even want to get into the big mess this will cause for people who bought the season pass. With this last D.L.C they are dropping soon smh.

And the part in red needs to stop being said. This is pure sheep talk. With all the solid evidence these hackers been leaking and and the blatant "game of the year/COMPLETE editions". How could you still sit there and say this? LOL IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE GAME THAT YOU PAID DAMN NEAR $70 FOR!!!!! So of coarse it should be free. Why would you want to pay for extra content that's not really "extra content". When the developers themselves didn't even create "extra" content? lololololol!!!!!!!!!! What money did they use while cutting content and then re-selling it as DLC/add-on/expansion? Looks to me like they're making money being sneaky.

And what are you talking about with street fighter? All of those different games had "D.L.C" hidden behind a pay wall smh. 5 will be no different, just watch. You crazy if you don't think they will drop ultra street fighter 5 super hyper tournament extreme edition like 6 months later. Bloodborn had "actual DLC" and was worth more than the price they charged for it. Haven't played it but I've heard this a lot. That right there is not what I'm talking about, that's cool.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

LOL if this is true(which I doubt it is), then you shouldn't even buy the game. No why? MARK MY WORDS, super street fighter 5 turbo championship special alpha edition will drop 6 months later. I'm Pretty sure a gang of shit will be locked behind a pay wall dressed up as "D.L.C" like usual. After the MVC3 debacle, Capcom has gone COMPLETELY to shit! Don't get me started on them Resident evil games lol.

They've already addressed this. They are using a different model with SFV. There will be no new versions of SFV. All gameplay patches will be free. All new characters can either be purchased or obtained for free by playing the game. Only extra costumes that come out down the line will require purchase.

THIS IS COMPLETELY FALSE!!!!!! I don't know how I missed this lol. Mortal Kombat just proved that they in fact did this with MK 10 XL coming in march lol. Don't even want to get into the big mess this will cause for people who bought the season pass. With this last D.L.C they are dropping soon smh.

You said what I said was completely false and then put some shit that has nothing to do with what I said. How does MKXL coming out demonstrate that the DLC was complete and ready to go when the original game was made? It doesn't. Yes, MKXL is a good example that if you're willing to wait, you can get a more complete game for cheaper. That's fine, and everyone has that option, but not everyone wants to use it. Some people are big fans of games and want to play it as quickly as possible. Some people are competitive players and therefore can't wait around for special editions of a game before they start playing. Others just aren't very good and are better off getting into the game before the avg skill level raises to a point where they can no longer compete. I'm not saying that waiting to get a game is wrong. I'm saying it's not for everyone.

And the part in red needs to stop being said. This is pure sheep talk. With all the solid evidence these hackers been leaking and and the blatant "game of the year/COMPLETE editions". How could you still sit there and say this? LOL IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE GAME THAT YOU PAID DAMN NEAR $70 FOR!!!!! So of coarse it should be free. Why would you want to pay for extra content that's not really "extra content". When the developers themselves didn't even create "extra" content? lololololol!!!!!!!!!! What money did they use while cutting content and then re-selling it as DLC/add-on/expansion? Looks to me like they're making money being sneaky.

It's not sheep talk. It's fact. I think some of ya'll like to run off at the mouth and don't understand a damn thing about what you're talking about. A hacker finding an incomplete character model on the disc of a game does not mean that character was finished and ready to go at launch. Do you know how much goes into some of this DLC that is developed? For a fighting game, characters have to have fully fleshed out models, finished animations, complete movesets, dialog, story interactions, theme music, and depending on the game a bunch of other shit (e.g. customizations in Tekken). That shit costs money to make. If they've already released the game, but are still working on extra stuff like that, it cuts into their profit margin. So of course they are going to try and recoup some of that money. I don't know why some people think these game developers are charities. They aren't. They are in it to make money, so why are you fools walking around like you're entitled to them doing things that would hurt their cause? Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying their aren't companies that pull some bullshit. There most certainly are, but to act like all DLC is some evil money grabbing shit is just stupid.

And what are you talking about with street fighter? All of those different games had "D.L.C" hidden behind a pay wall smh. 5 will be no different, just watch. You crazy if you don't think they will drop ultra street fighter 5 super hyper tournament extreme edition like 6 months later. Bloodborn had "actual DLC" and was worth more than the price they charged for it. Haven't played it but I've heard this a lot. That right there is not what I'm talking about, that's cool.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're just spouting off at the mouth. DLC wasn't even a thing until SFIV. And when they implemented it into SFIV it was as updates to the game that basically completely changed the game. It wasn't some shit that was on the disc and you DLed a key to unlock it. They were substantial upgrades to the games that include balance fixes, new characters, new costumes, new mechanics, new stages, new gameplay mechanics, and a bunch of other shit. You were basically playing 15 - 20 dollars to have the game revamped. If you can acknowledge that Bloodborne's DLC, then you should be able to understand that the Street Fighter DLC was not trivial. On top of that, the SFIV DLC was an improvement over their previous model. Because before DLC, Capcom basically made you buy the whole game again. Hell they did that very thing going from MvC3 to UMvC3.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Look, I've worked with big companies that have software development units, and I don't think a lot of the people that complain about DLC actually understand how some of these games are developed. A lot of people seem to think that if some content is finished when a game is released, that they are automatically entitled to that content. That's not at all how things are done, and frankly it's a stupid way of thinking. If I bake 20 pies, and decide to sell them $7 apiece, you aren't entitled to get all 20 pies for $7 just because I baked them all at the same time. What kind of idiotic thinking is that?

It's no different with software and game development. A unit within a development company will come up with an idea for a game they want to put out. Before they even start work on it, some projections are done to try and figure out how much the game will likely cost to be made and how much it could potentially make. The game will only even go into production if the projected profit is acceptable to the people in charge of the money. Now some think that if DLC is made concurrently with the main game, then it should be included with the main game and that's bullshit. Because a lot of the time, the developers are only even given the greenlight for the DLC if its going to be paid DLC. If not, the DLC probably wouldn't even get made. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a company looking at the game they plan to make and setting a cutoff for content that they think is fair for the base $60 price and then deciding to sell anything extra at an additional cost. That's done in every other industry. I'm not sure why gamers whine so much about it. You don't see people going to car dealerships like "Hey, why are you charging more for the floor mats and premium sound system. You could have just as easily put those things in from the beginning, so I should get them for free." Everybody seems to understand that it's perfectly reasonable to have a price for the base model of the car and then charge for add-ons. What a lot of these companies are doing with DLC is the exact same thing, but ya'll cats love whining about it.

I'm not saying you can't complain about DLC. If you feel like there isn't enough content in the initial release to warrant the $60 cost, that's a fair criticism. But how many games does that really apply to? People are bitching about MKX's DLC practices, but the fact is that game had a shit load of content from the start, so you can't say what was given wasn't worth the money. You can also say that the DLC is overpriced, and in a lot of cases that is actually true. Sometimes the prices are set based on how much money the company needs to make back. Other times companies are just fleecing the customer. Even in that case it would make more sense to call out the people who are actually doing the bad practice rather than bitching about DLC in general.

 

[eyes low]

Not gonna lie i made the mistake of getting the battlefront season pass. Still mad about it. But for games that aren't online games like batman arkham Knight if u just wait u can get both for a decent price. Christmas weekend I bought arkham Knight for 20 bucks and the season pass for 15. Battlefront was some bullshit they put out less than half the game

 

[PILL_COSBY]

@The Lonious Monk

I'm really confused by your post my brotha. Go back and really overlook what you typed. You're up, down, and all over the place. I can't tell if you think this blatant screw job is cool or not lol.

Read what I posted about the MK10 screw job again. I explained perfectly how I knew it was a greedy ass screw job. Go to the MK10 XL thread and read what season pass buyers are complaining about(they have every right too) for more details. Once again!!!, They just released 4 more new characters for $5.00 a piece($20.00). They were announced mid December 2015 to drop at the end of January 2016 or feb 1st. Weeks ago they announced mk10 XL to drop early march(next fucking month!!). This will have the just released new characters included. Can you truly not see the fuckery? How do I not know what I'm talking about when the evidence is right there in front of my(and yours) face? The shit was already done!!!! Why as soon as the season pass is done to release this? why have a "complete version of the game ON ONE DISC already fired up and ready to go the following month?...................FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON MORTAL KOMBAT XL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MORTAL KOMBAT XL IS NOW ON SALE(pre order for march 1st) FOR 59.99 WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS RELEASED AND WAS JUST CURRENTLY RELEASED FOR $20.00(even for season pass holders). Lets see here, Original unfinished game = 59.99($65 plus california tax). $40.00(just the characters alone, excluding the skins and other shit). Goro is fully functional on the disc already and is behind a pay wall. That all comes to over $100. Now the actual finished game is being released the way it should have been from the jump, $59.99. All of this material been created bruh. The game barley been out for a year, they just didn't make this shit a few months ago lol.

I'm not even going to touch on what you said about capcom again lol. Your mind is made up and the industry will continue this "call of duty" type of abuse. It's people like you who are enabling them to get away with murder. Don't know if you remember or not, but I and a few others warned y'all about street fighter 4. Exactly what we said would happen, happened. Y'all were defending the shit out of that one too lol. Capcom has fallen, after SF5 you will come to your senses(hopefully), I'm going to be right again, just watch.

 

[PILL_COSBY]

SMH, computer nerds just somehow found out that batman AK will release a "complete" version around the same time as MK10 XL. The season pass just ended too lol!!!!!!!! They don't give a fuck no more. People just bending over and taking it with no lube(ultra pause!) As many times as batman has been pushed back, this makes absolutely no sense.

And wow!, SMH at monk saying "unfinished". Bruh, from these super computer geeks actually looking into their systems, industry leaks, actual ex employees getting pissed and blowing whistles, etc etc. Some of these computer nerds know more about the programs than the game developers(look at all them P.C mods). These nerds have even proven time and time again that they are lying to us. Developers will say they couldn't do this and that. then the nerds go in and do exactly what they said they couldn't do using whats already there in the game. Sometimes they do even more! They even correct problems that the developers never correct. This has also been done on consoles too, so I don't want to hear no "bu bu bu, but that's P.C" bull shit lol. This goes back to the game shark days.

Peep game. Content used to be already on the disc behind pay walls. But after the computer geeks discovered this and hacked them out for free(y'all remember when that was going down? I know my nigga jamel does). They resorted to a new tactic(because their skirts got pulled up). Now they take a chunk of content(that's already been finished) out and dress it up s paid D.L.C/add-on/expansions later. Or they will leave shit partly finished, then add the rest behind a pay wall. I already gave you plenty of examples of this fuck shit. With each game release(especially the big ones) this keeps happening.

Me and thousands of other gamers have been noticing that something feels missing in damn near every new game release. The reason why is because it is!! These games on these new systems is supposed to be bigger, badder, and have way more content than last gen. 90% of the games released we haven't gotten that. We only get that through "season passes" and "DLC" now at days lol.

 

[PILL_COSBY]

@The Lonious Monk

Oh yeah, your pie example was wack. I see what you were trying to say but that shit was not good example at all. I will give you a better example of what I'm talking about using pie as well.

You are advertising a mouthwatering WHOLE pie(the video game) with sprinkles on top. It's being sold around the same price as every other WHOLE pie. It's on commercials and billboards. The pie comes in a closed box that you can't see through. You have to take it out the box first(play the game) to see it. Then when I take the pie out of the box(play the game), I discover only half of a whole pie(clearly unfinished game/obvious missing content). I also discover that there's no sprinkles on top or very little(blocked off areas, maps, characters already in the coding/on disc etc etc). Later I discover the rest of the pie and the sprinkles are sold separately(D.L.C/ADD-ON/EXPANSION). A few weeks later after selling a bunch of half a pies for the price of a whole pie. You start to sale the actual whole pie with all the sprinkles at a price cheaper(or the same) than the price of half the pie you sold("game of the year/complete/deluxe version").

You are selling half of what was advertised for the amount of a whole pie with lots of sprinkles on top. Now isn't that retarded? There's business, and then there's shady business.

Here's a perfect example of the Marvel vs capcom 3 bull shit using the I phone fiasco. I phone drops and is overpriced as fuck. With all kinds of issues and is basically a broken unfinished product. A few months later a better version drops and is actually finished at half the price(ultimate marvel vs capcom 3).

 

[kzzl]

Gamers just need to adjust and put they money where they mouth is. Stop letting the temptation of instant gratification push you. Hold off on getting these hyped up games and let that shit float for a while. It's gonna be broken and need a bunch of patches at first anyway. YouTube is filled with people willing to inform and give real reviews since the game has proven to short change players now. Plenty of let's plays and such to know what you're purchasing before hand.

And if the shit has dlc, then just hold off or don't buy it. Or do buy it if the game has proven worth the risk. But I strongly cosign we stop preordering as well. That shit was for when games ran outta stock on release day. Does that even happen any more? There's all kinds of places to buy games now.

 

[willhustle]

Truth be told, I copped Black Ops 3 for $10 (when I had them GS coupons) but I ain't never really been a COD fan like that. I only copped because I was looking for something different in my gaming library. Black Ops 3 is cool but I'm not paying an extra $50 for a season pass. So whenever I beat the game that's it for me. $60 for the main game + $50 for season pass? Nope not me. Most DLC be bullshit so if you buy DLC for a game that's worth it it's rare.

Like I don't mind buying DLC for WWE 2K because you know what you're getting upfront every year and they don't do GOTY editions. You can get about 5-10 new characters an additional 2k showcase mode. So I don't have any issue with buying the season pass if I feel the content is decent and I know a GOTY edition isn't going to be made.

 

[vagrant-718]

Don't see why anyone would be surprised at a batman arkham knight complete version. They did the same shit with the previous iterations which is exactly why I held out. Same thing with mk.

After a while you should know which company going to pull that complete edition/goty edition crap.

 

[vagrant-718]

Games nowadays with the exception of cod and Nintendo games get mark down pretty quickly and brand new at that too. You hold out then you wouldn't be playing $65 and you be able to gauge which DLC are worth it (more times than not, none of them are)

 

[Splackavelli]

Stars battle front gets free updates but is wait and see what the doc holds . from what I read from their bulletin we can expect new game modes and locations like the death star. In this update we vote private matches both snow trooper skims for Luke and han new etc.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

@The Lonious Monk

I'm really confused by your post my brotha. Go back and really overlook what you typed. You're up, down, and all over the place. I can't tell if you think this blatant screw job is cool or not lol.

Read what I posted about the MK10 screw job again. I explained perfectly how I knew it was a greedy ass screw job. Go to the MK10 XL thread and read what season pass buyers are complaining about(they have every right too) for more details. Once again!!!, They just released 4 more new characters for $5.00 a piece($20.00). They were announced mid December 2015 to drop at the end of January 2016 or feb 1st. Weeks ago they announced mk10 XL to drop early march(next fucking month!!). This will have the just released new characters included. Can you truly not see the fuckery? How do I not know what I'm talking about when the evidence is right there in front of my(and yours) face? The shit was already done!!!! Why as soon as the season pass is done to release this? why have a "complete version of the game ON ONE DISC already fired up and ready to go the following month?...................FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON MORTAL KOMBAT XL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MORTAL KOMBAT XL IS NOW ON SALE(pre order for march 1st) FOR 59.99 WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS RELEASED AND WAS JUST CURRENTLY RELEASED FOR $20.00(even for season pass holders). Lets see here, Original unfinished game = 59.99($65 plus california tax). $40.00(just the characters alone, excluding the skins and other shit). Goro is fully functional on the disc already and is behind a pay wall. That all comes to over $100. Now the actual finished game is being released the way it should have been from the jump, $59.99. All of this material been created bruh. The game barley been out for a year, they just didn't make this shit a few months ago lol.

Ok, I think there is some confusion on both of our parts. I wasn't talking about the release schedule for what they are doing with MKX when I said it's not a screw job. I was talking about the fact that none of the DLC characters were finished when they released the game. So the argument that some people are making that they are selling games piecemeal that should be given all at once doesn't really work. If you feel that they are overcharging or distributing the DLC in a way that is bullshit, that's a different story, and I can see what you're saying.

I'm not even going to touch on what you said about capcom again lol. Your mind is made up and the industry will continue this "call of duty" type of abuse. It's people like you who are enabling them to get away with murder. Don't know if you remember or not, but I and a few others warned y'all about street fighter 4. Exactly what we said would happen, happened. Y'all were defending the shit out of that one too lol. Capcom has fallen, after SF5 you will come to your senses(hopefully), I'm going to be right again, just watch.

Except you're wrong. People like me are why Capcom has refined it's DLC structure. I buy DLC when it's worth the money and I don't buy it when it's not worth the money, simple as that. Capcom basically looked at what happened with SFIV and have tailored their approach in SFV to be profitable while also being fair to fans invested in the game. And if you want to take the stance that Capcom is lying and that everything they've said about how they plan to implement DLC for SFV is bullshit, then you can take that stance. But when March comes and they release their first DLC for SFV and those of us who don't want to pay are able to earn the DLC through the game just as Capcom said we would, will you come on here say admit you don't know what the fuck you're talking about?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

SMH, computer nerds just somehow found out that batman AK will release a "complete" version around the same time as MK10 XL. The season pass just ended too lol!!!!!!!! They don't give a fuck no more. People just bending over and taking it with no lube(ultra pause!) As many times as batman has been pushed back, this makes absolutely no sense....

Everything you said in this post is why your stance is bullshit. First of all, I don't think you understand what goes on with this data mining. Let me give you an example. The SFV was datamined, and that's how everyone knew which DLC characters would be released way before Capcom made an official announcement. But they didn't find complete characters signifying that the DLC was already part of the game and had just been stripped out as a money grab. What they found was pointers to incomplete models and character names. Now a bunch of you took that information and ran with it talking about Capcom was cheating them when clearly that wasn't the case. Again, I'm not saying there are no bad DLC practices. There are bad practices in all business. However, this ranting and raving against DLC in general that ya'll are doing is silly. People shouldn't be calling for an end to DLC because DLC can prolong the joy you get from games. People should be calling for an end to bad DLC and that comes not from this over the top bitching like you guys are doing. That comes from supporting the good and ignoring the bad, the same as in any other industry.

@The Lonious Monk

Oh yeah, your pie example was wack. I see what you were trying to say but that shit was not good example at all. I will give you a better example of what I'm talking about using pie as well...

lol Your example is not better than mine. Yours is terrible because it's not addressing the general matter of DLC. You've tailored your example to only apply to egregious situations like what happened with Street Fighter X Tekken and are then trying to used it to indict DLC in general. That's the shit that you guys are doing that is stupid.

And how old are you guys. This whining over the fact that some material is on the disc but locked behind a key is ridiculous. That shit has been done on CDs for pretty much as long as CDs have been a medium for selling programs. But beyond that, your example is just bad. Since you brought up MvC3, let's use that as an example. When the game was released, people datamined the disc and found incomplete versions of Shuma Gorath and Jill Valentine. A bunch of people like you started bitching and saying that Capcom was pulling foul because they were cutting content that should have been included from the start. In other words, they were trying to claim that they were promised a whole pie and only got half like you're claiming. That's bullshit though because they were never promised those characters. When those characters were found, we knew what full roster was and everyone that Capcom promised we'd get at the base was there. They got a complete game, and if Shuma and Jill never existed, there wouldn't have been any complaints. People only complained because they have this ridiculous sense of entitlement where they believe game developers are charities and should give away everything for the price the customer demands. Guess what, business doesn't work like that. There is nowhere that you go that you set the price and the amount of content you want. So why do you think the video game industry should work like that?

And honestly, bringing up UMvC3 hurts your argument. Because the problem all the MvC3 fans had with UMvC3 was that it WASN'T released as DLC. Everyone thought it should have been a DLC upgrade for $15-$20. Instead, Capcom released it as a brand new game. So this is pretty much proof that there is a place for DLC and it can be right if companies implement the right practices, which is exactly what we see Capcom attempting to do with SFV.

 

[AP21]

Don't see why anyone would be surprised at a batman arkham knight complete version. They did the same shit with the previous iterations which is exactly why I held out. Same thing with mk.

After a while you should know which company going to pull that complete edition/goty edition crap.

i think that was the plan all along assuming it didnt stumble out of the gate like it initially did

not surprised at an all content inclusive release of this game at all