Pharrell (& Neptunes) vs. Timbaland

[LUClEN]

Timbaland has better percussion

More unique samples and drum sequencing

And his samples are monstrous

The cop car sample in Pony (I thought it was a mario jump sample, someone in the reason corrected me) and the breathes


The tabla sounding percussion in Ugly by Bubba Sparx


The percussion in between the snares in The Potion is bananas


The Neptunes bling bling sounds can't fuck with timbo's drum sequencing

 

[KLICHE]

Only going with my choice as I am certain been more tracks produced by them that I vibed with, than Timbaland beats.. taking nothing away from Timbaland though, dude still the shit

 

[dalyricalbandit]

to close to call imo

 

[detcatinva]

 

[mosincredible]

^^^

The beats in that post do the Neptunes more justice than the opening post's beats. Those are the smooth ass chords I'm talking about.

 

[detcatinva]

 

[okaay]

Timbaland has better percussion

More unique samples and drum sequencing

And his samples are monstrous

The cop car sample in Pony (I thought it was a mario jump sample, someone in the reason corrected me) and the breathes


The tabla sounding percussion in Ugly by Bubba Sparx


The percussion in between the snares in The Potion is bananas


The Neptunes bling bling sounds can't fuck with timbo's drum sequencing

Pause B, you couldn't find another Pony clip!

 

[detcatinva]

 

[Jao]

both have mad hits and made classics goin back into the 90s.. to me tho, timbo's jams hold up better over time.. a lot of the neptunes songs i liked back in the day sound cheezy as hell when i go back n listen to them. i'll take the timbo bounce over that neptunes sound

 

[rip.dilla]

Some Beenie Man and Janet

This was one of them random ones that popped up

Diversity

 

[_Lefty]

In my experience, the neptunes have dropped more "WTF is that" beats than Timbo. I've been blown away by more beats from the neps, simple as that. They have a distinct sound, but they flip it so many ways. Popular demand, and Feds Watchin don't sound the same but you know who did both off top. Then the nigga hit you wit shit like allure that's just, man. Tim nice on the R&B side, that's where his strength lies, he has some classic hip hop beats, but the aaliyah's, genuine's, and justin timberlake's of the world do best with his production. It is my firm belief that he fucked up that Jay-z album, even that Holy Grail beat sounded more suited for justin timberlake than hov. That's a whole nother thread though. Bottom line, Tim can't fuck wit P.

 

[lazypakman]

Somebody drop me a Timbo beat you'd describe as 'soulful'. I'll wait.

even for arguments sake this is a pretty stupid point to make because simply within hip hop tim has never been that dude.....he use's singers to channel the soul over his beats (moreso in rnb) rather than a direct sample, to base his merit of diversity on this logic when you have the pete rocks, rzas & preemos of this world out there isn't right because his production methods have never been like that....he's never been one to use a soul sample in the traditional sense that 90% of other producers would.

thats not to say he doesn't know how to use a soul sample effectively though, people don't realise (especially early on in his career) how ingenious he was with his sampling, 'Supa dupa fly' is one of the most copied albums of the noughties (in a production sense) for a certain reason, and he was using soul samples all over the joint (whether it be the delfonics or ann peebles a good 3 years before hi-tek decided to have a shot at the same sample himself) on that waaaay before anyone else was doing it in a manner like he was.as a superfan i'll straight up say he can't make a soulful hip hop beat for shit (but then i don't look to him for those and by now neither should anyone else) but for anybody to claim the guy doesn't know how to use a soul sample properely is baloney, he's always been one of the best at hiding and layering his sam ples to the point that you don't even know he uses him.

i was knocked for six when i heard 'heaven' on magna carta, first time in almost 20 years of listening to the guy he used a soul sample straight up.

 

[lazypakman]

i've said it before and i'll say it again, tim's body of work within hip hop will never merit him a place on the 'legends' list because he's never had that moment where he's been able to shake the hip hop world on its head, Neptunes had that with 'lord willin' which is why they rightly deserve to be held in higher in esteem.'deliverance' may be a very well produced record but bubba sparxxx is hardly an elite emcee.

but tim is arguably the most creative and influential producer of the late 90's, he's single handedly reinvented rnb like 2 or 3 times lol, that more mini epochs in popular music than anyone this side of james brown, and you wont find many producers post 'supa dupa fly' who haven't bitten from him at least once.

 

[KillaCham]

Some Beenie Man and Janet

This was one of them random ones that popped up

Diversity

I love this beat, I almost posted it. One thing about Neptunes is that their beats are so distinct but never over-produced. Bet it took like 15 mins to make this beat.

 

[KillaCham]

Is it safe to say that Neptunes/Pharrell take more risks than Timbo?

 

[KillaCham]

Somebody drop me a Timbo beat you'd describe as 'soulful'. I'll wait.

What in the entire fuk.

Clearly we have different definitions of soulful. Soulful = 'damn im zonin the fuk out. Are these tears on my face'

Like...Allure.

Like i said before, 97% of Timbo's beats are uptempo 'heeeey, hooo', 'happy beats, with the flutes n zylophones.' Ngga i dont wanna party all damn day give me SOUL. Timbo aint got that

A "soulful" beat isn't always a deep, gloomy sound that makes you wanna shed a single tear. It can emanate from emotional expressiveness that makes you wanna dance as well. Church music and James Brown are typically considered soulful. That beat is of that classification.

So fuck outta here and take Allure and its Final Fantasy soundtrack ass beat with you.

 

[S2J]

Somebody drop me a Timbo beat you'd describe as 'soulful'. I'll wait.

What in the entire fuk.

Clearly we have different definitions of soulful. Soulful = 'damn im zonin the fuk out. Are these tears on my face'

Like...Allure.

Like i said before, 97% of Timbo's beats are uptempo 'heeeey, hooo', 'happy beats, with the flutes n zylophones.' Ngga i dont wanna party all damn day give me SOUL. Timbo aint got that

A "soulful" beat isn't always a deep, gloomy sound that makes you wanna shed a single tear. It can emanate from emotional expressiveness that makes you wanna dance as well. Church music and James Brown are typically considered soulful. That beat is of that classification.

So fuck outta here and take Allure and its Final Fantasy soundtrack ass beat with you.

You write in pink hues and follow Nicki Minaj. Are you SERIOUSLY speaking to me about music. Fuk outta here and yes i know you made the thread.

 

[S2J]

Hello New World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po3llDdPj7I

So Ambitious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3DPvbmJTo

Life Change

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnR6-_dxI9c

Door Man (Fuking. Crack.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-ZSEfJ1Zr4

Nggas pickin all these mainstream popular beats. Dig deeper nggas. Are you fukin serius right now!!!??? Timb is not fukin with that dude.

 

[S2J]

Last night what i seen made my life change, made my life change, made my life change.

 

[KillaCham]

Somebody drop me a Timbo beat you'd describe as 'soulful'. I'll wait.

What in the entire fuk.

Clearly we have different definitions of soulful. Soulful = 'damn im zonin the fuk out. Are these tears on my face'

Like...Allure.

Like i said before, 97% of Timbo's beats are uptempo 'heeeey, hooo', 'happy beats, with the flutes n zylophones.' Ngga i dont wanna party all damn day give me SOUL. Timbo aint got that

A "soulful" beat isn't always a deep, gloomy sound that makes you wanna shed a single tear. It can emanate from emotional expressiveness that makes you wanna dance as well. Church music and James Brown are typically considered soulful. That beat is of that classification.

So fuck outta here and take Allure and its Final Fantasy soundtrack ass beat with you.

You write in pink hues and follow Nicki Minaj. Are you SERIOUSLY speaking to me about music. Fuk outta here and yes i know you made the thread.

So what you're saying is... you know I'm right and just gonna say some random shit instead of staying on topic. That's def red btw, Donna Goodou legally blind ass nigga.

On topic: I'm prob gonna have to go with Neptunes. Aside from me liking their work better personally, they def have a more diverse sound(s).

Other beats I like off top from both:

N.O.R.E. - Grimey

Jay - La-La-La (Excuse Me Miss Again) Omarion - Touch

Missy - She's A Bitch & Beep Me 911

Tim, Magoo, Tweet, and Tim ' s bum ass cousin - All Y'all (even though mad simple)