Peyton Manning wins AP MVP for the forth time

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Stack Money;34393 said:
Most of the records Manning set Brady broke in 07 like the touchdowns in a season.

Thats the only SINGLE season record Manning held. Its was the word "records" that threw me off. 50 TDs for Brady, 49 for Manning. Neither of them have any other SINGLE season passing record. Just bcos u folks want to argue btw Brady and Manning, dont overlook the other Greats' records
 
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Stack Money;34393 said:
Most of the records Manning set Brady broke in 07 like the touchdowns in a season.

Manning threw 49 TDs thru 15 games in '04 and only played 1 drive the last week of the season against Denver. They punted, he rode the bench. Nevermind the fact that he played that same Denver team the next week and threw for over 400 yards and 4 TDs in the Wildcard round tho.

Brady threw 48 TDs thru 15 games '04 and went for the record(and 16-0) the last week of the season against the Giants. Nevermind the fact that he threw the ball 578 times compared to Manning who only threw it 497 times. How does Brady average 36 pass attempts per game compared to 31 for Manning despite the fact that the Pats blew out alot more teams than the Colts did??
 
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usmarin3;34487 said:
Peyton Manning is that nigga who can dribble his ass off but cant shoot. lol Regular season qb!

He has a Postseason Passer Rating of 85.0, while Brady has a passer rating of 88.0
 
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PanchoYoSancho;34762 said:
Manning threw 49 TDs thru 15 games in '04 and only played 1 drive the last week of the season against Denver. They punted, he rode the bench. Nevermind the fact that he played that same Denver team the next week and threw for over 400 yards and 4 TDs in the Wildcard round tho.

Brady threw 48 TDs thru 15 games '04 and went for the record(and 16-0) the last week of the season against the Giants. Nevermind the fact that he threw the ball 578 times compared to Manning who only threw it 497 times. How does Brady average 36 pass attempts per game compared to 31 for Manning despite the fact that the Pats blew out alot more teams than the Colts did??

you make valid points, as far as pass attempts, but look where they both play. the Patriots play in the AFC East where there are 0 domes, and one warm weather team(miami), the colts play in a dome in division with 3 warm weather teams, the Colts play in pretty decent conditions all year long, and that helps the passing game alot. Late in 07 the Patriots played 4 or 5 games in pretty bad weather conditions and were still trying to throw all over the place. Personally I believe Manning is the more talented QB, but I'll take Brady everytime, because he knows how to win big/important games.

as far as the MVP.. I don't see how a running back can run for over 2,000 yards, and break the all-purpose yards record and not be named MVP.
 
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young silk;34948 said:
you make valid points, as far as pass attempts, but look where they both play. the Patriots play in the AFC East where there are 0 domes, and one warm weather team(miami), the colts play in a dome in division with 3 warm weather teams, the Colts play in pretty decent conditions all year long, and that helps the passing game alot. Late in 07 the Patriots played 4 or 5 games in pretty bad weather conditions and were still trying to throw all over the place. Personally I believe Manning is the more talented QB, but I'll take Brady everytime, because he knows how to win big/important games.

as far as the MVP.. I don't see how a running back can run for over 2,000 yards, and break the all-purpose yards record and not be named MVP.[/QUOTE]

because the titans suck that's why he wasn't even in the running and they can win without chris johnson the colts can't win without manning that's why
 
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Bullshit. MVP should've gone to Brees.

Greatest QB EVER? Don't be an idiot.

"Super" Joe Montana>>>>>>ALL other QBs to ever play.
 
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Peyton Manning is the best QB to ever do it. You niggas make me sick with all this hate. I don't even fuck with the Colts G but I gotta give props to who deserves it. Brady would have been shit without Belichick (sp) and those cameras. When the Pats won those SBs, his wide receiver corp wasnt that great but he had a good running attack and their D was tight. Manning has always had to take the team on his back and the Colts D showed up finally for that SB season.
 
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I see Manning got alot of dickriders on here, or Brady just got alot of haters...

vageneral08;34706 said:
lol you mean the one record he broke barely and that's having better numbers than manning? lmao well bout the most regular season games won BROKEN by none other then the colts it only took them one year to win 23 games and it took the pats 2 to win 21 games c'mon man lets be real you know manning is the better qb

Better team don't mean better qb lol @ you tryna give all the credit to Manning.

PanchoYoSancho;34762 said:
Manning threw 49 TDs thru 15 games in '04 and only played 1 drive the last week of the season against Denver. They punted, he rode the bench. Nevermind the fact that he played that same Denver team the next week and threw for over 400 yards and 4 TDs in the Wildcard round tho.

Brady threw 48 TDs thru 15 games '04 and went for the record(and 16-0) the last week of the season against the Giants. Nevermind the fact that he threw the ball 578 times compared to Manning who only threw it 497 times. How does Brady average 36 pass attempts per game compared to 31 for Manning despite the fact that the Pats blew out alot more teams than the Colts did??

Look at who Manning was playin wit though. That's what everyone seems to ignore, Manning was playin wit guys like Harrison Wayne Edgerrin James and Dallas Clark his entire career and only has 1 Super Bowl to show for it while Brady won 3 Super Bowls wit Branch Dillon and a bunch of other supplementary parts on offense that you can't even begin to remember the names of. That's why Manning was known as the qb who couldn't win in the playoffs and that's why Brady is hands down the better qb and probably will go down as the GOAT.

Even when Manning finally won the Super Bowl he wasn't the main reason, in their first playoff game that year he had 3 INTs in the second game he didn't even have a TD they won that game because of Adam Vinatieri. In the AFC championship game he threw a pick 6. He had a good Super Bowl even though he threw another INT but their running backs especially Dominic Rhodes won that game and should have been Super Bowl MVP.

If you put Brady on those Colts teams wit the offense they had he would have 5 or 6 Super bowls by now since he has 3 wit the mediocre offense he played wit, he damn sure would have more than 1 like ya boy Manning. Why do you think everyone was wildin when the Pats got Moss and Welker? He finally had great receivers to throw the ball to like Manning has and if he put up those kind of numbers wit wack receivers like the ones who kept droppin the ball the year before than you could only imagine what he would do wit Moss and Welker (we saw a glimpse of it in 07).

young silk;34948 said:
you make valid points, as far as pass attempts, but look where they both play. the Patriots play in the AFC East where there are 0 domes, and one warm weather team(miami), the colts play in a dome in division with 3 warm weather teams, the Colts play in pretty decent conditions all year long, and that helps the passing game alot. Late in 07 the Patriots played 4 or 5 games in pretty bad weather conditions and were still trying to throw all over the place. Personally I believe Manning is the more talented QB, but I'll take Brady everytime, because he knows how to win big/important games.

as far as the MVP.. I don't see how a running back can run for over 2,000 yards, and break the all-purpose yards record and not be named MVP.

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mystery brown;35203 said:
Bullshit. MVP should've gone to Brees.

Greatest QB EVER? Don't be an idiot.

"Super" Joe Montana>>>>>>ALL other QBs to ever play.

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young silk;34948 said:
you make valid points, as far as pass attempts, but look where they both play. the Patriots play in the AFC East where there are 0 domes, and one warm weather team(miami), the colts play in a dome in division with 3 warm weather teams, the Colts play in pretty decent conditions all year long, and that helps the passing game alot. Late in 07 the Patriots played 4 or 5 games in pretty bad weather conditions and were still trying to throw all over the place. Personally I believe Manning is the more talented QB, but I'll take Brady everytime, because he knows how to win big/important games.

as far as the MVP.. I don't see how a running back can run for over 2,000 yards, and break the all-purpose yards record and not be named MVP.

I remember '07 pretty vividly and the only bad weather games Brady had to deal with were @ Baltimore and home vs. the Jets.

I'll give you 2, but not 5.

But still...

what Marino did in 84>>>>what Brady and Peyton did.
 
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Stack Money;35375 said:
Look at who Manning was playin wit though. That's what everyone seems to ignore, Manning was playin wit guys like Harrison Wayne Edgerrin James and Dallas Clark his entire career and only has 1 Super Bowl to show for it while Brady won 3 Super Bowls wit Branch Dillon and a bunch of other supplementary parts on offense that you can't even begin to remember the names of. That's why Manning was known as the qb who couldn't win in the playoffs and that's why Brady is hands down the better qb and probably will go down as the GOAT.

Even when Manning finally won the Super Bowl he wasn't the main reason, in their first playoff game that year he had 3 INTs in the second game he didn't even have a TD they won that game because of Adam Vinatieri. In the AFC championship game he threw a pick 6. He had a good Super Bowl even though he threw another INT but their running backs especially Dominic Rhodes won that game and should have been Super Bowl MVP.

If you put Brady on those Colts teams wit the offense they had he would have 5 or 6 Super bowls by now since he has 3 wit the mediocre offense he played wit, he damn sure would have more than 1 like ya boy Manning. Why do you think everyone was wildin when the Pats got Moss and Welker? He finally had great receivers to throw the ball to like Manning has and if he put up those kind of numbers wit wack receivers like the ones who kept droppin the ball the year before than you could only imagine what he would do wit Moss and Welker (we saw a glimpse of it in 07).

Here we go again with this bullshit.

1. You talk about Peyton's offensive weapons compared to Brady's offensive weapons, but last I checked....there is a Defense that steps on the field too, and neither of them are apart of it. And to compare the D that the Colts had the 1st half of this decade to the defense the Pats had is a joke. The Pats had the #6, #1, and #2 scoring Defense in the league during their SB runs. They won that first Super Bowl. Brady just road the bandwagon and got credited because of the final drive against the prevent D of the Rams, he drove the distance. In reality, Ty Law was the real MVP of the game and the offense barely moved the ball.

2. Manning's 2nd half performance in the AFC Championship against New England = One of the Greatest Postseason performances of all time. And the weather in the Super Bowl was terrible.

3. If anything, if Manning played for the Pats under Belichick, they might have 5 rings.
 
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PanchoYoSancho;35402 said:
If anything, if Manning played for the Pats under Belichick, they might have 5 rings.

LOL he only got 1 ring now how you figure he'd have 5? LMBAO Dickridin at it's finest. I ain't even gonna address that other shit you talkin.
 
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Stack Money;35375 said:
I see Manning got alot of dickriders on here, or Brady just got alot of haters...

Better team don't mean better qb lol @ you tryna give all the credit to Manning.

Look at who Manning was playin wit though. That's what everyone seems to ignore, Manning was playin wit guys like Harrison Wayne Edgerrin James and Dallas Clark his entire career and only has 1 Super Bowl to show for it while Brady won 3 Super Bowls wit Branch Dillon and a bunch of other supplementary parts on offense that you can't even begin to remember the names of. That's why Manning was known as the qb who couldn't win in the playoffs and that's why Brady is hands down the better qb and probably will go down as the GOAT.

Even when Manning finally won the Super Bowl he wasn't the main reason, in their first playoff game that year he had 3 INTs in the second game he didn't even have a TD they won that game because of Adam Vinatieri. In the AFC championship game he threw a pick 6. He had a good Super Bowl even though he threw another INT but their running backs especially Dominic Rhodes won that game and should have been Super Bowl MVP.

If you put Brady on those Colts teams wit the offense they had he would have 5 or 6 Super bowls by now since he has 3 wit the mediocre offense he played wit, he damn sure would have more than 1 like ya boy Manning. Why do you think everyone was wildin when the Pats got Moss and Welker? He finally had great receivers to throw the ball to like Manning has and if he put up those kind of numbers wit wack receivers like the ones who kept droppin the ball the year before than you could only imagine what he would do wit Moss and Welker (we saw a glimpse of it in 07).

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lol you have to be a pats fan....look do you really think the colts would win 23 games straight without peyton manning?????? lets be serious son of course peyton manning will take most of the credit when it comes to winning
 
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vageneral08;35952 said:
lol you have to be a pats fan....look do you really think the colts would win 23 games straight without peyton manning?????? lets be serious son of course peyton manning will take most of the credit when it comes to winning

You're clearly a Manning fan, don't act like he ain't have a ton of help.
 
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Stack Money;35962 said:
You're clearly a Manning fan, don't act like he ain't have a ton of help.

Not only am I a manning fan but a COLTS fans too....of course he has help but without peyton manning how good are the colts???? i proved my point exactly
 
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vince tongue;35977 said:
Winning 3 Sb's and losing 1 barely>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>23 regular seasons wins and NFL MVP'S.I rather be a winner than a polished loser.I'd take robert horry's career over barkley ,ewing,malone and stockton.

Those guys dont have any rings though. Manning at least has one.

Horrys career or KG's career?
 
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vince tongue;35977 said:
Winning 3 Sb's and losing 1 barely>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>23 regular seasons wins and NFL MVP'S.I rather be a winner than a polished loser.I'd take robert horry's career over barkley ,ewing,malone and stockton.

lol you saying that like they're gonna win more SB's lol their time is over you better off saying I'll take 6 SB's than 3
 
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vageneral08;35968 said:
Not only am I a manning fan but a COLTS fans too....of course he has help but without peyton manning how good are the colts???? i proved my point exactly

All you proved is your ignorance...oh and you're a dickrider

vince tongue;35977 said:
Winning 3 Sb's and losing 1 barely>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>23 regular seasons wins and NFL MVP'S.I rather be a winner than a polished loser.I'd take robert horry's career over barkley ,ewing,malone and stockton.
 
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vince tongue;35977 said:
Winning 3 Sb's and losing 1 barely>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>23 regular seasons wins and NFL MVP'S.I rather be a winner than a polished loser.I'd take robert horry's career over barkley ,ewing,malone and stockton.

I'd take the Hall of Fame over being a complimentary guy with rings.

But I understand what you're saying.
 
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Stack Money;36032 said:
All you proved is your ignorance...oh and you're a dickrider

lol well explain what happened today brady dickrider?? looks like he wont be winning the SB this year
 
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