Peyton Manning or Tom Brady ?

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JUXcaptainHOOK;3096562 said:
ya still dont understand... Peyton Manning MADE those WRs .... you wouldnt know about them if it wasnt for Peyton

People act like he's turning water into wine. Guess what, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark, Reggie Wayne...those dudes don't owe Peyton Manning shit. They would have been good players just about anywhere they played.
 
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JUXcaptainHOOK;3096547 said:
im not gonna repeat myself a thousand more times for stupid niggas like u.... i done said mad shit already .. u just mad u n ya sidekick coco bagels or whatever his name is got ethered multiple times by myself and others... Peyton Manning means more to his team then brady does and its a fact.. why argue? Patriots been a winning team before Brady what dont u understand? U take off Peyton off the colts... they are below 500 team... Patriots would still be above .500 ... ESPN just added Bradys 07 numbers to peytons 08-10 numbers and Peyton was still rated higher... just give up..... on life

this nigga is idiot 4realz, All the garbage he does at the LOS, the million commercials, the constant media dick sucking, the overlooking of how many great receivers he's had around him throughout most of his career, his last name, etc etc all lead to him to bigger then the colts.
 
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How bout people STFU about Marino.

The league was WAY different back then than it is now. Rules that benefit passing offenses have been implemented.

Not to mention, the thread is comparing Manning to Brady. Not Marino.
 
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Jeezyfan4ever;3096610 said:
this nigga is idiot 4realz, All the garbage he does at the LOS, the million commercials, the constant media dick sucking, the overlooking of how many great receivers he's had around him throughout most of his career, his last name, etc etc all lead to him to bigger then the colts.

Patriots had Cassel in as QB and went 11-5. STFU. Brady is a great QB, but also in part because of the Patriots' SYSTEM.

In Indianapolis, Manning IS the fucking system. That's why he does the "garbage at the LOS" which, by the way, is called calling an audible. Cuz, you know, that's what good QBs do. They read defenses and audible in bad situations.

Dumbass.
 
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JUXcaptainHOOK;3096547 said:
im not gonna repeat myself a thousand more times for stupid niggas like u.... i done said mad shit already .. u just mad u n ya sidekick coco bagels or whatever his name is got ethered multiple times by myself and others... Peyton Manning means more to his team then brady does and its a fact.. why argue? Patriots been a winning team before Brady what dont u understand? U take off Peyton off the colts... they are below 500 team... Patriots would still be above .500 ... ESPN just added Bradys 07 numbers to peytons 08-10 numbers and Peyton was still rated higher... just give up..... on life

You got prove of that, how the fuck you know they will be a below .500 team. So you saying Cassell wouldnt win 11 games with the colts offense?
 
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coop9889;3096629 said:
Patriots had Cassel in as QB and went 11-5. STFU. Brady is a great QB, but also in part because of the Patriots' SYSTEM.

In Indianapolis, Manning IS the fucking system. That's why he does the "garbage at the LOS" which, by the way, is called calling an audible. Cuz, you know, that's what good QBs do. They read defenses and audible in bad situations.

Dumbass.

Lol my nigga I've prolly said this shit like 40 times in this thread already... thats why im just co signing shit now lol
 
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Jeezyfan4ever;3096632 said:
You got prove of that, how the fuck you know they will be a below .500 team. So you saying Cassell wouldnt win 11 games with the colts offense?

Peyton Manning IS the offense... why u hating on Peyton so much tho? read ur posts b... u sound like a full fledge # 18 hater... When were the Colts even RELEVANT before Peyton Manning was signed? what? back in the fucking Johnny Unitis days (if thats how u spell it) .... thats decades apart... Patriots been winning before Brady.... even when Brady went down... its the system they have... stop tryna hate on Peyton so bad and just soak in the facts.
 
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coop9889;3096613 said:
How bout people STFU about Marino.

The league was WAY different back then than it is now. Rules that benefit passing offenses have been implemented.

Not to mention, the thread is comparing Manning to Brady. Not Marino.

Peyton Manning has already surpassed Marino anyways in pretty much ALL categories .... this dude jeezystan is just REACHING
 
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coop9889;3096629 said:
Patriots had Cassel in as QB and went 11-5. STFU. Brady is a great QB, but also in part because of the Patriots' SYSTEM.

In Indianapolis, Manning IS the fucking system. That's why he does the "garbage at the LOS" which, by the way, is called calling an audible. Cuz, you know, that's what good QBs do. They read defenses and audible in bad situations.

Dumbass.

How many people would have guessed that a backup QB with zero college starts would lead that team to 11 wins?

fucking zero.

But then all those perfect hindsighted morons that would have told you after he won 11 that now it's just the system and Tom Brady is overrated yada yada.

Failing to realize that Peyton Manning and his "system" haven't been tested with a replacement quarterback for a season. Also failing to realize what level of player Cassell actually is. Also failing to realize how great that offense was for Cassell that year. Also failing to realize that it isn't a crime for Bill to put his QB in a position to be successful.

Just like when Matty Flynn played against the Pats this year. They toned down the playbook, shorter throws, screens, etc. And that gave them a chance to win. I didn't hear anyone screaming that Rodgers was overrated after that game or saying that if Flynn can almost beat a 14 win team then it's just the Mike McCarthy genius offensive system.

It's a joke.

The media tells you, love and worship Peyton.
 
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Jeezyfan4ever;3096672 said:
How many people would have guessed that a backup QB with zero college starts would lead that team to 11 wins?

fucking zero.

exactly.. what the fuck does that tell you? u fucking moron
 
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coop9889;3096629 said:
Manning IS the fucking system. That's why he does the "garbage at the LOS" which, by the way, is called calling an audible. Cuz, you know, that's what good QBs do. They read defenses and audible in bad situations..

JUXcaptainHOOK;3096643 said:
Peyton Manning IS the offense...

ima just say what i said before, probably you havent read it. Do you really think Indy has a complicated offense? Let me give you the answer. No, no it doesn't. It's not really basic but it's not like this out of this world super complicated offense that only PM could master like so many fools believe. Just because he runs to the line and screams and yells and waives his hands around so waterheads all around the country can go ooohhh he's changing the play and stuff he must be smart. And OMG he knows 3 plays at the LOS before every snap? In the town(camden I live in, we went to the playoffs and the HS QB ran the no huddle in the champ game and called all the plays for like the last 2 drives. Maybe he's the next Manning because he knows more than 1 play in his head.

Every QB can change plays, adjust routes, protections, just because they don't do all that exaggerated crap (which is just crap half the time) doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. Hell some teams have silent checks. Or where the WR makes the adjustment himself without someone yelling HOTEL HOTEL HOTEL BLACK TIGER BLACK TIGER HOTEL to him.

The media has all the sheeple convinced that only Peyton could run that magic dink and dunk offense. Yeah guess what it's not true. It's not that amazing. Manning's also notorious for leading his receivers to their death. He's a garbage teacher of the game to fellow teammates from what I can see. He's a whiny baby about anything that doesn't go his way. An awful lot like his apologist fans that blame the team around him every single time failing to mention that they didn't have a defense because of all the expensive pieces they stack around him on offense to give him those incredible (regular season) numbers.
 
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JUXcaptainHOOK;3096686 said:
exactly.. what the fuck does that tell you? u fucking moron

has manning offense been tested with backup QB fucking idiot. Was Manning ever out for a whole year? answer that dumbass
 
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Jeezyfan4ever;3096723 said:
has manning offense been tested with backup QB fucking idiot. Was Manning ever out for a whole year? answer that dumbass

lol so your really gonna ignore the fact the patriots were a successful franchise before Brady? are u ever gonna acknowledge that? when u do.... this is convo is over.
 
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JUXcaptainHOOK;3096726 said:
Kansas City aint doing shit... so no... i give the Patriot coaching staff more credit than Cassel

KC won their division last year? They gotta win a SB in order for Cassell to be a decent QB to you?
 
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JUXcaptainHOOK;3096735 said:
lol so your really gonna ignore the fact the patriots were a successful franchise before Brady? are u ever gonna acknowledge that? when u do.... this is convo is over.

You do realize the Patriots were either last or next to last in their division the 3 seasons before Brady took over for Bledsoe?
 
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major pain;3096769 said:
KC won their division last year? They gotta win a SB in order for Cassell to be a decent QB to you?

he is decent i never said he's wack... but has he reached 11 wins again inna season? i dont think so... So yeah... the Patriots coaching staff had more to do with the 11 wins.... but im not saying cassell is wack... i like the homie actually... this is just a Peyton vs Brady debate so i'm stating the obvious
 
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major pain;3096784 said:
You do realize the Patriots were either last or next to last in their division the 3 seasons before Brady took over for Bledsoe?

they still were in the SB years before that tho and lost.... where were the colts?
 
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