Or is everything just fine the way it is?

[universaltruth]

Okay I changed up some of the words of this post^^,

"I think if people became aware of what they do, say and think, and actually accepted what is, instead of holding on to what was or focusing on what is to come, and if we acted IN the moment in complete awareness, anything could be possible. What that anything is tho, i dont know."

If this is what you were conveying, I agree 100%

Yea, you got it

 

[Skeratch]

Selfishness and greed.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Could they really have inner peace though?

Yes, imo though inner peace is just being comfortable with yourself, the actions you do, and the life you lead.

I mean I see what you saying, but if the idea of peace is so subjective, is peace even a viable concept?

No, it's not. At least globally. If I believed some God or something just made us and dropped us then yea, but believing in evolution we're just too young and still have a animalistic process inside of us.
We can have groups live together, but never everyone for a very long time. And I doubt we stay around long enough to reach that point. The next group of supreme beings might though.

You may not have understood them then, but you probably have a good understanding of it now tho? And you may not understand it from their perspective but you understand it from some perspective? Like I can understand a heroin addiction up to a certain point, but to truly understand what it means to be addicted to heroin, I'd have to be addicted to heroin, then break the addiction to it and then reflect on that addiction to understand it.

 

[VIBE]

Selfishness and greed.

Overpopulation.

Peoples lack of knowledge of self, of awareness

Lack of understanding...

.........................

 

[Chike]

Could all those things be brought down to one thing that fuels all the rest? I mean is it our low IQs that inhibit our self control, respect for ourselves, others and environment, that encourages our materialism. Is there one basic or underlying factor that is contributing to all our other problems?

I dunno, but I just felt the need to post them all... well most of them. For emphasis.

The biggest problem, is the people on top are taking advantage of and working to keep people stupid and dependent upon them. And they're doing a bang up job.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Alan Watts once used the example of a North and South Pole, there are two poles but they are on the same magnet, they work together as one. The division is something we as humans created because of our lack of awareness. We try to control nature, not co-operate. If we co-operated with nature and understood that we are not just flesh with an ego that is not connected to the universe as awhole, I believe things would be better.

I think we're starting to get to that point, 'this is this and that is that', but underneath all those labels and structural differences are atoms. This is what I mean by it might be a necessary path, we had to do all the labeling, categorizing and separating to find out that everything is essentially the same. Where we're suppose to go from here, idk.

Selfishness and greed.

Selfishness and greed of the self or material things? Or both? Which one is more destructive?

No, it's not. At least globally. If I believed some God or something just made us and dropped us then yea, but believing in evolution we're just too young and still have a animalistic process inside of us.

We can have groups live together, but never everyone for a very long time. And I doubt we stay around long enough to reach that point. The next group of supreme beings might though.

Maybe if we had more understanding of ourselves we could all live together peacefully, but I think you may be right that it won't be this group to achieve it.

See they understand it, alot of them will tell you, "Yea, Im always going to go through the ups and downs, diseases, teeth fallin out, hair fallin out, organs dying, etc.." but they refuse to stop. They understand fine, but they have something too strong for them to break.

Maybe going through the highs and lows is better than the alternative: having to face their own mind.

The biggest problem, is the people on top are taking advantage of and working to keep people stupid and dependent upon them. And they're doing a bang up job.

The scary thing though imo, is most of us seem pretty content to stay distracted by our trinkets and bobbles. Its like "do whatever you want, just don't take my shit away."

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

But still I wonder if there is a certain thing that underpins all these issues. Lack of awareness and understanding seem to be good ones, but maybe its not a lack so much as we aren't there developmentally.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

But still I wonder if there is a certain thing that underpins all these issues. Lack of awareness and understanding seem to be good ones, but maybe its not a lack so much as we aren't there developmentally.

That's where I believe our lack of understanding comes from, us still not having developed enough to fully break away from our instincts.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

That's where I believe our lack of understanding comes from, us still not having developed enough to fully break away from our instincts.

I think you may be quite right; torn between the 'reactive' mind and the 'analytical' mind, part man part beast.

 

[universaltruth]

I think you may be quite right; torn between the 'reactive' mind and the 'analytical' mind, part man part beast.

Sometimes the analytical mind has us overthinking, sometimes the reactive mind has us acting out of control, both are there because both need to be used as one. The Middle Way is the best Way.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Sometimes the analytical mind has us overthinking, sometimes the reactive mind has us acting out of control, both are there because both need to be used as one. The Middle Way is the best Way.

Have you ever used both as one? I don't think I have, only one mind has had the upper hand at any given moment.

 

[universaltruth]

Have you ever used both as one? I don't think I have, only one mind has had the upper hand at any given moment.

Im sure you have, just havent been aware of it probably. And me........I slip up sometimes, overthink somethings and let emotions control me when it comes to certain people.....but at most times I keep my "interior noise" as I call it to a minimum to avoid confusing myself, and I control how I act and react to people mostly.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Im sure you have, just havent been aware of it probably. And me........I slip up sometimes, overthink somethings and let emotions control me when it comes to certain people.....but at most times I keep my "interior noise" as I call it to a minimum to avoid confusing myself, and I control how I act and react to people mostly.

No I'm pretty sure I haven't, then again if I had but was unaware I guess I wouldn't be aware I had.

 

[universaltruth]

No I'm pretty sure I haven't, then again if I had but was unaware I guess I wouldn't be aware I had.

lol yea, and we're constantly using both, we just dont know it, and most times as you said before, one overpowers the other.

 

[kingblaze84]

Overpopulation.

Resources are ALREADY running out......the world's lakes and oceans are running dry in record numbers. Too many people are consuming too much shit, thanks to the horrible side effects of the Industrial Revolution.

If world governments are not serious about lowering world populations, than we're all fucked.

The 2nd worst problem is greed. Greed of mostly western nations.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Overpopulation.

Resources are ALREADY running out......the world's lakes and oceans are running dry in record numbers. Too many people are consuming too much shit, thanks to the horrible side effects of the Industrial Revolution.

If world governments are not serious about lowering world populations, than we're all fucked.

The 2nd worst problem is greed. Greed of mostly western nations.

Lakes aren't because of people, that is naturally occurring. No lake has survived forever, they will constantly run dry at some point.

And what Ocean has ran dry? Or is running dry? They are actually getting higher.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Overpopulation.

Resources are ALREADY running out......the world's lakes and oceans are running dry in record numbers. Too many people are consuming too much shit, thanks to the horrible side effects of the Industrial Revolution.

If world governments are not serious about lowering world populations, than we're all fucked.

The 2nd worst problem is greed. Greed of mostly western nations.

Who gets to stay and who has to leave? Do we just wait things out as people slowly die off? Do we interfere with people reproducing? Who gives the government the authority? Can't be we the people, especially if we the people are on the 'to go' list.

 

[Skeratch]

Selfishness and greed of the self or material things? Or both? Which one is more destructive?

Selfishness that has people so absorbed in their world that their goals overshadow the well-being of other humans. We're almost all guilty of this.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Selfishness that has people so absorbed in their world that their goals overshadow the well-being of other humans. We're almost all guilty of this.

Its a dog eat dog world, sacrifice yourself or sacrifice others. I don't know how would get people to come out of their own little worlds though.

 

[Skeratch]

Its a dog eat dog world, sacrifice yourself or sacrifice others. I don't know how would get people to come out of their own little worlds though.

Therein lies the problem, to improve the world people need to be selfless but to survive people need to be suspicious and self-serving.