only time i hear about j cole, whiz k, royce, glocc 40 and others is on here

[young_reezy]

yo this hip hop shit really is dead, not just cliche but it's true. shit is over wit and done, finnito! go listen to all your old c.d.'s lol

 

[Five]

I dunno what kinda backwood hick radio statrions yu listen to but Jcole get play out here in NY on hot 97.

 

[ambiguous1]

but who is coming to a show to hear a nobody they need a radio mainstream hit to get folks to come out to a show if j cole has a show tomorrow the headline would be Jay-z's 1st artist and not J cole with the hit song so and so. I agree with what you are saying but they have to create a street buzz to gt folks to come out and see them some type of club hit or something. saying they can do 150 shows at 1000 a piece is nothing. Wale went on tour with Jay-Z and got 300,000 paid his band 100,000 then subtract paying your management team and others that 150,000 is bout 50,000 at best after taxes. and if they have signed a 360deal they making less than half on their own tour.

let me get my james earl jones on in Field of Dreams "People Will Come Ray"...

If you market it right, pick the right venues, promote it you'll be fine. Now dont get me wrong u need some sort of buzz, which can be started on the web, or simply started by doing shows. but that's only half the battle, yet they think it's the full war. These cats are all above doing smallers shows.

i'm in a hip hop group... we've done much less lately than in the past but... we made $15k one summer from setting up a full summer of shows. This while most of us were working full time... and had no mainstream radio hit (obviously). people like J Cole and Wale can do way better. I'd venture to guess if wale would have went out by himself and set shit up that same year touring w/o jay z he coulda made more than 300k heading out on his own and setting shit up.

and that's the other thing... all these guys rely on these big managment teams etc to do everything for them. No business savvy themselves, on some well i rap you do everything else.

well 360 might be less on their own tour but setting up the precendent that you can make these people money on the road, gets you the guarnenteed money of a 360 deal... and of course you wouldnt sign a 360 until further down in your career

 

[American Loo VII 3D]

I dunno what kinda backwood hick radio statrions yu listen to but Jcole get play out here in NY on hot 97.

I live in Houston, the fifth biggest radio market in the US.

 

[jonlakadeadmic]

your crazy, j coles everywhere

 

[5th Letter]

American Loo is saying it as if it was a bad thing. The internet is a great place for rappers to get their music out especially those that get no burn on radio or BET and MTV.

 

[Five]

I live in Houston, the fifth biggest radio market in the US.

I live in ny.

/thread

 

[American Loo VII 3D]

I live in ny.

/thread

so did i, who gives a fuck

 

[J. Rob]

People are underestimating how powerful the internet is.....true, internet fans are more likely to download than buy, but it's a larger market than the local scene. You can build a pretty strong fanbase over the net fatser than you can locally, and you can do it yourself. These people may not buy your albums, but they'll come to your shows. Besides, people act like it's only internet fans who download music.....EVERYBODY does that shit nowadays. Rappers with Top 10 singles can't even go gold, they selling just about the same amount as these "internet" rappers like Wale, Slaughterhouse, etc.....

You can't become a millionaire being an internet rapper, but you can make a decent living. The days caking off of a multiplatinum album are gone anyway. You have to treat hip hop like a job now. If niggas wanna make money, they gonna have to grind and rely on touring. Free mixtapes are pretty much advertisement for your shows now. I think it's smarter to build a loyal internet following who will support you and come to your shows 5 years from now (The Freshman Class) than to be a flash in the pan who relies on fickle ass radio listeners who jump off the bandwagon when someone else "hotter" than you comes along and won't give 3 fucks, 2 shits and a damn about you 5 years from now (Young Money)

 

[American Loo VII 3D]

American Loo is saying it as if it was a bad thing. The internet is a great place for rappers to get their music out especially those that get no burn on radio or BET and MTV.

no its not a bad thing at all. its only bad when these artists gain a large following on the net and their fans dont support them when its time to cop the album

let the internet tell it, joe buddens should be a multi platinum star

 

[deeroc22]

If you live in the NY area and you fuck with HOT 97 and 105... can i ask why? For the most part they"ll play the same 14 songs all got dam day... Even the old school at noon has gotten wack as fuck....

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

They are making money probably 5,000 a show.

 

[boom]

dawg if you've never heard of Wiz Khalifa outside of here. You haven't left your home.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

dawg if you've never heard of Wiz Khalifa outside of here. You haven't left your home.

That nigga is ass compared to Joell or Buddens.He aint gonna be nothing in 2 years.Mark my words.He's weak on the lyrics.

 

[deeroc22]

I will catch flack for this but ive never heard of Gucci Mane outside the internt or radio.... never heard one person in "real life" speak of him or his music.. now i know he's established and has his fans, shows, albums and what not... but no one i know has ever said yo listen to that new gucci song or that new gucci album droppin in 2 weeks.. my point is where else do you expect to hear about theses guys??

 

[boom]

That nigga is ass compared to Joell or Buddens.He aint gonna be nothing in 2 years.Mark my words.He's weak on the lyrics.

Okay........

 

[The Smooth One]

I bought Royce's shit. Death Is Certain, Independent's Day, Street Hop. I don't care if he's mentioned here or elsewhere. I put people up on game about dude since Build & Destroy. And he's only gotten better. He's not mentioned? *shrug*... he's still toward the top of my list.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Okay........

My nigga you gotta be on his street team or your hip hop horizon is limited because this nigga wiz is not even nice.Or average.I don't debate about lyrics because I listen to Jay electronica and joell Ortiz and AZ raekwon.I can't even debate with ya niggas that listen to wiz and nips or w.e his name is.These niggas are weak.

 

[boom]

My nigga you gotta be on his street team or your hip hop horizon is limited because this nigga wiz is not even nice.Or average.I don't debate about lyrics because I listen to Jay electronica and joell Ortiz and AZ raekwon.I can't even debate with ya niggas that listen to wiz and nips or w.e his name is.These niggas are weak.

Okay ........

 

[J. Rob]

My nigga you gotta be on his street team or your hip hop horizon is limited because this nigga wiz is not even nice.Or average.I don't debate about lyrics because I listen to Jay electronica and joell Ortiz and AZ raekwon.I can't even debate with ya niggas that listen to wiz and nips or w.e his name is.These niggas are weak.

Wiz an Nipsey are slightly above average IMO

To some of us, lyrics aren't the only thing that matters. I listen to all four of the artist you mentioned, but I also listen to Wiz, Nipsey, Currensy, and other rappers who aren't all that great lyrically. They all have attributes that appeal to me. I like Jay Elect, Joell, Raekwon, and AZ for their lyricism....I like Wiz's charisma and Currensy's laid back style...I like Nipsey's delivery and content (he speaks on street shit without glorifying it)....I like Wale and J. Cole for having a little bit of everything. I listen to all kind of hip hop as long as it isn't overtly wack