One Gotta Go..... T.I. vs Young Jeezy vs Rick Ross vs Lil Wayne

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_Goldie_;8445328 said:
I know it hurts fam, the best evidence u got is nicki sayin she wrote a hook for HER to sing for a wayne album and he didn't even want it , compared to there being REAL proof of Cube having niggas write entire verses for him. I know it hurts to know you were being read to this whole time, but does it take away from how dope you think his albums are cuz he was reading the whole time?

Atleast you can say Cube is top 5 reader of alltime, I might have to say Puff is better tho, cuz he can read and dance. That's tough.

Where this proof of cats writing whole verses for Cube?

 
What purpose is that?

Jeezy is a horrible ceo

Wayne can't get his daddy to pay him

And tip is almost as bad a ceo as jeezy

Ross got other niggas eating out here while these other niggas can't even get release dates for they own shit

Tell me what the bigger purpose outside of rap is
 
bck145;8445430 said:
_Goldie_;8445328 said:
I know it hurts fam, the best evidence u got is nicki sayin she wrote a hook for HER to sing for a wayne album and he didn't even want it , compared to there being REAL proof of Cube having niggas write entire verses for him. I know it hurts to know you were being read to this whole time, but does it take away from how dope you think his albums are cuz he was reading the whole time?

Atleast you can say Cube is top 5 reader of alltime, I might have to say Puff is better tho, cuz he can read and dance. That's tough.

another example that you have nothing when it comes to the argument

"Nicki claims she initially penned a Weezy verse" “Nicki originally did that song for Wayne two and a half years ago.” not a hook

maybe wayne should of linked up with the writers that cube had, might have had a classic album by now, after 16 years it's better late than never right?

I hope youre trolling fam, cuz this shit is sad lol. The gossip blog u posted said verse , but in her quote she said nothing about her writing a verse, only the hook. The fact that your evidence is a song that Wayne wasn't even on is sad within itself.

nujerz84;8445489 said:
_Goldie_;8445328 said:
I know it hurts fam, the best evidence u got is nicki sayin she wrote a hook for HER to sing for a wayne album and he didn't even want it , compared to there being REAL proof of Cube having niggas write entire verses for him. I know it hurts to know you were being read to this whole time, but does it take away from how dope you think his albums are cuz he was reading the whole time?

Atleast you can say Cube is top 5 reader of alltime, I might have to say Puff is better tho, cuz he can read and dance. That's tough.

Where this proof of cats writing whole verses for Cube?

Cube's song on the "Compton" album , he has 0 writing credits, the cat on track 1 wrote the whole thing.
 
_Goldie_;8445516 said:
bck145;8445430 said:
_Goldie_;8445328 said:
I know it hurts fam, the best evidence u got is nicki sayin she wrote a hook for HER to sing for a wayne album and he didn't even want it , compared to there being REAL proof of Cube having niggas write entire verses for him. I know it hurts to know you were being read to this whole time, but does it take away from how dope you think his albums are cuz he was reading the whole time?

Atleast you can say Cube is top 5 reader of alltime, I might have to say Puff is better tho, cuz he can read and dance. That's tough.

another example that you have nothing when it comes to the argument

"Nicki claims she initially penned a Weezy verse" “Nicki originally did that song for Wayne two and a half years ago.” not a hook

maybe wayne should of linked up with the writers that cube had, might have had a classic album by now, after 16 years it's better late than never right?

I hope youre trolling fam, cuz this shit is sad lol. The gossip blog u posted said verse , but in her quote she said nothing about her writing a verse, only the hook. The fact that your evidence is a song that Wayne wasn't even on is sad within itself.

nujerz84;8445489 said:
_Goldie_;8445328 said:
I know it hurts fam, the best evidence u got is nicki sayin she wrote a hook for HER to sing for a wayne album and he didn't even want it , compared to there being REAL proof of Cube having niggas write entire verses for him. I know it hurts to know you were being read to this whole time, but does it take away from how dope you think his albums are cuz he was reading the whole time?

Atleast you can say Cube is top 5 reader of alltime, I might have to say Puff is better tho, cuz he can read and dance. That's tough.

Where this proof of cats writing whole verses for Cube?

Cube's song on the "Compton" album , he has 0 writing credits, the cat on track 1 wrote the whole thing.

whats sad is your sounding like genoicide and his icp stanning, or supergangsta with nas

I already said no one should of voted for wayne, but your getting salty at the truth and acting like it never happened while not backing up what your saying with anything substantial....your looking really ignorant in here
 
Ok you're right. Nicki ghostwrite a hook that was made for a female to sing, that wasn't even a Wayne song. Truly damaging evidence u had there.
 
_Goldie_;8445516 said:
bck145;8445430 said:
_Goldie_;8445328 said:
I know it hurts fam, the best evidence u got is nicki sayin she wrote a hook for HER to sing for a wayne album and he didn't even want it , compared to there being REAL proof of Cube having niggas write entire verses for him. I know it hurts to know you were being read to this whole time, but does it take away from how dope you think his albums are cuz he was reading the whole time?

Atleast you can say Cube is top 5 reader of alltime, I might have to say Puff is better tho, cuz he can read and dance. That's tough.

another example that you have nothing when it comes to the argument

"Nicki claims she initially penned a Weezy verse" “Nicki originally did that song for Wayne two and a half years ago.” not a hook

maybe wayne should of linked up with the writers that cube had, might have had a classic album by now, after 16 years it's better late than never right?

I hope youre trolling fam, cuz this shit is sad lol. The gossip blog u posted said verse , but in her quote she said nothing about her writing a verse, only the hook. The fact that your evidence is a song that Wayne wasn't even on is sad within itself.

nujerz84;8445489 said:
_Goldie_;8445328 said:
I know it hurts fam, the best evidence u got is nicki sayin she wrote a hook for HER to sing for a wayne album and he didn't even want it , compared to there being REAL proof of Cube having niggas write entire verses for him. I know it hurts to know you were being read to this whole time, but does it take away from how dope you think his albums are cuz he was reading the whole time?

Atleast you can say Cube is top 5 reader of alltime, I might have to say Puff is better tho, cuz he can read and dance. That's tough.

Where this proof of cats writing whole verses for Cube?

Cube's song on the "Compton" album , he has 0 writing credits, the cat on track 1 wrote the whole thing.

bruh nevermind
 
_Goldie_;8445561 said:
Ok you're right. Nicki ghostwrite a hook that was made for a female to sing, that wasn't even a Wayne song. Truly damaging evidence u had there.

reading ain't to good huh:

"You know what's interesting about that song," she said. "Nicki had originally did that song for Wayne two and a half years ago. And then it was just lingering and she gave it to Rick Ross and he passed on it for his first album. And then he just picked it up for his second album. And I think it’s hot.”

your missing the point that you originally asked to show where someone wrote for wayne, a label mate has wrote for him

not to mention rumors of gillie, drake, and currensy writing for him....but no matter what I say or show you, your too deep praising wayne that you'll try and dismiss it....good day

 
Wow , what she meant by "did that song for wayne a year ago" flew over your head b. The hook she wrote (and sung) was made for Wayne to hop on the same way Ross did. That has nothing to do with writing a niggas verse. You cant be this slow my nigga.
 
BackInWhite;8445361 said:
The block is hot wasn't garbage

Lights out wasn't great but it had its moments

I wouldn't call it garbage

East coast heads downtalkthose albums. In the south were listening to them.
 
_Goldie_;8444438 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8444378 said:
_Goldie_;8444258 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8444192 said:
_Goldie_;8444120 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8444069 said:
_Goldie_;8444009 said:
I never heard ANY rapper name any of those 3 rappers in their top 5 lol . My point is among his peers he's considered one of the best to ever do it, cant say the rest for the other 3.

my point is thats cool what other niggas think but it dont really matter when we choosing who we think are up there. tip definitely up there with wayne, at least imo. the ear and eye test tells me that, not what master p said lol

they high on the list but not quite goat level, especially wayne the last few years, he's had bangers and flashes but he aint what he was, errbody know that.

Arguably the best MC in the game (Kendrick) isn't credible? Just like in sports, players opinion on the game >>>Sports writers and critics

The eye test tells you TIP is on Waynes level? lol So Tip has dominated the game for nearly a decade? I mustve missed that. And yea wayne isntat his prime right now (still dope imo) but neither is Tip. WHo is still in their prime? Jay? no Nas? no No legend is

so im suppose to think wayne the goat cuz kendrick said so? kendrick not even the best mc imo and bruh i dont live by that shit i think for my self im sorry lol. and like i said, kendrick also said krit one of the nicest. did that change your opinion on krit? shit for all i know tip get similar cosigns from other rappers, luda dem too for that matter.

wayne and tip are greats. not quite goats. wayne had a bigger peak, tip was more steady throughout, same year wayne biggest album dropped, tip's did too. and tips was better cuz empire fucked wayne over. both pretty much had equal success b4 that. sure wayne dropped carter 4 and went plat again after that but that shit wasnt quite the quality tip was droppin, trouble man was a dope album plus tip and wayne had some nice collabs goin head up. after no ceilings niggas been sayin wayne fell off for 5 years bruh. thats just now the case for tip. both would be in my top 10 favorites list, but i hesitate to put em up there with goats like kast, jay or nas (the latter two i dont even like as much as tip or wayne btw)

So you like Tip and Wayne better than Jay and Nas , but you'd put Jay and Nas in ur top 5 before Tip and Wayne? I don't get that b.

If we're talkin quality wise, then that can be debated (still don't think its close), but success and impact? Tip is no where near Wayne fam lol. The reason I brought up other Mc's top 5 was to say just cuz YOU or others in here don't think Wayne is Goat status , many of his contemporaries do consider him as one of the Goats. Somebody in the game saying he's Goat holds more merit than a random nigga online saying he isn't.

i differentiate between top rapper list and top personal favorite rapper list, tip and wayne are higher on the personal favorite list. if i actually listed shit it'd explain how im MUCH more likely to bump gucci mane but j. cole is the better rapper.

and we all random niggas online tho. if thats the case go debate with kendrick dem. why even waste time on the ic, we have no merit lol.

im not sure im gonna take the response serious but please go head explain how tip is "nowhere near wayne" success and impact wise. lol, i wanna see this.

From selling a mill in a week twice, to being the rapper with the most hot 100 billboard singles of alltime, to creating YM who is to this day running the game. But let yall tell it, Grand Hustle has had the same dominance lol

I didn't say our opinion holds no merit, I said his peers opinion holds more. If I can name over 10 MC's off the top of my head who have wayne in their top 5 and you cant even name one who has the other 3 in their top 10 let alone 5, then that says something.

Actually I think Drake has the most hit singles on the billboard now
 
TayGettem ;8446215 said:
_Goldie_;8444438 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8444378 said:
_Goldie_;8444258 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8444192 said:
_Goldie_;8444120 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8444069 said:
_Goldie_;8444009 said:
I never heard ANY rapper name any of those 3 rappers in their top 5 lol . My point is among his peers he's considered one of the best to ever do it, cant say the rest for the other 3.

my point is thats cool what other niggas think but it dont really matter when we choosing who we think are up there. tip definitely up there with wayne, at least imo. the ear and eye test tells me that, not what master p said lol

they high on the list but not quite goat level, especially wayne the last few years, he's had bangers and flashes but he aint what he was, errbody know that.

Arguably the best MC in the game (Kendrick) isn't credible? Just like in sports, players opinion on the game >>>Sports writers and critics

The eye test tells you TIP is on Waynes level? lol So Tip has dominated the game for nearly a decade? I mustve missed that. And yea wayne isntat his prime right now (still dope imo) but neither is Tip. WHo is still in their prime? Jay? no Nas? no No legend is

so im suppose to think wayne the goat cuz kendrick said so? kendrick not even the best mc imo and bruh i dont live by that shit i think for my self im sorry lol. and like i said, kendrick also said krit one of the nicest. did that change your opinion on krit? shit for all i know tip get similar cosigns from other rappers, luda dem too for that matter.

wayne and tip are greats. not quite goats. wayne had a bigger peak, tip was more steady throughout, same year wayne biggest album dropped, tip's did too. and tips was better cuz empire fucked wayne over. both pretty much had equal success b4 that. sure wayne dropped carter 4 and went plat again after that but that shit wasnt quite the quality tip was droppin, trouble man was a dope album plus tip and wayne had some nice collabs goin head up. after no ceilings niggas been sayin wayne fell off for 5 years bruh. thats just now the case for tip. both would be in my top 10 favorites list, but i hesitate to put em up there with goats like kast, jay or nas (the latter two i dont even like as much as tip or wayne btw)

So you like Tip and Wayne better than Jay and Nas , but you'd put Jay and Nas in ur top 5 before Tip and Wayne? I don't get that b.

If we're talkin quality wise, then that can be debated (still don't think its close), but success and impact? Tip is no where near Wayne fam lol. The reason I brought up other Mc's top 5 was to say just cuz YOU or others in here don't think Wayne is Goat status , many of his contemporaries do consider him as one of the Goats. Somebody in the game saying he's Goat holds more merit than a random nigga online saying he isn't.

i differentiate between top rapper list and top personal favorite rapper list, tip and wayne are higher on the personal favorite list. if i actually listed shit it'd explain how im MUCH more likely to bump gucci mane but j. cole is the better rapper.

and we all random niggas online tho. if thats the case go debate with kendrick dem. why even waste time on the ic, we have no merit lol.

im not sure im gonna take the response serious but please go head explain how tip is "nowhere near wayne" success and impact wise. lol, i wanna see this.

From selling a mill in a week twice, to being the rapper with the most hot 100 billboard singles of alltime, to creating YM who is to this day running the game. But let yall tell it, Grand Hustle has had the same dominance lol

I didn't say our opinion holds no merit, I said his peers opinion holds more. If I can name over 10 MC's off the top of my head who have wayne in their top 5 and you cant even name one who has the other 3 in their top 10 let alone 5, then that says something.

Actually I think Drake has the most hit singles on the billboard now

Nah Drake just hit 100 about acouple weeks ago, Wayne's at about 125.
 
bck145;8445430 said:
_Goldie_;8445328 said:
I know it hurts fam, the best evidence u got is nicki sayin she wrote a hook for HER to sing for a wayne album and he didn't even want it , compared to there being REAL proof of Cube having niggas write entire verses for him. I know it hurts to know you were being read to this whole time, but does it take away from how dope you think his albums are cuz he was reading the whole time?

Atleast you can say Cube is top 5 reader of alltime, I might have to say Puff is better tho, cuz he can read and dance. That's tough.

another example that you have nothing when it comes to the argument

"Nicki claims she initially penned a Weezy verse" “Nicki originally did that song for Wayne two and a half years ago.” not a hook

maybe wayne should of linked up with the writers that cube had, might have had a classic album by now, after 16 years it's better late than never right?

bruh, just stop, this never happened, with your logic, lupe fiasco, bob, the game have had ghostwriters

matter fact with your logic, every rapper ever has had ghostwriters. dont u think if wayne had writers his worst material would be a lil more cohesive?

nicki doing the song in that situation equals her droppin the hook/concept to the beat and wayne does nothing but raps on it. its no different from when producers send beats with the hook already on it. like at least half of game's career.

its ok to not know how songwriting processes go, but dont make up fake myths and make ur self look even sillier bro.
 
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some of yall disrespecting ross too, i guess deeper than rap or black dollar musical greatness dont matter when u used to work at the prison tho.
 
Peezy_Jenkins;8446461 said:
bck145;8445430 said:
_Goldie_;8445328 said:
I know it hurts fam, the best evidence u got is nicki sayin she wrote a hook for HER to sing for a wayne album and he didn't even want it , compared to there being REAL proof of Cube having niggas write entire verses for him. I know it hurts to know you were being read to this whole time, but does it take away from how dope you think his albums are cuz he was reading the whole time?

Atleast you can say Cube is top 5 reader of alltime, I might have to say Puff is better tho, cuz he can read and dance. That's tough.

another example that you have nothing when it comes to the argument

"Nicki claims she initially penned a Weezy verse" “Nicki originally did that song for Wayne two and a half years ago.” not a hook

maybe wayne should of linked up with the writers that cube had, might have had a classic album by now, after 16 years it's better late than never right?

bruh, just stop, this never happened, with your logic, lupe fiasco, bob, the game have had ghostwriters

matter fact with your logic, every rapper ever has had ghostwriters. dont u think if wayne had writers his worst material would be a lil more cohesive?

nicki doing the song in that situation equals her droppin the hook/concept to the beat and wayne does nothing but raps on it. its no different from when producers send beats with the hook already on it. like at least half of game's career.

its ok to not know how songwriting processes go, but dont make up fake myths and make ur self look even sillier bro.

Again not a myth, but its cool if your unwillinging to recognize it
 
bck145;8444485 said:
_Goldie_;8444439 said:
Jonah 2.0;8444397 said:
bck145;8443928 said:
Waynes made too big of an impact that no one should vote for him out of this list

But lets not pretend like out of his discography he only has 2 good albums, zero classics, and was basically a punchline before carter 1 came out...it wasnt until he highered the right ghostwriters that he turned it around, if you need reference go listen to nelly body him on country grammer

I hate to be that dude but..................DAMMIT MAN!

cant take that post serious after that lol

Yeah but the message is true, your only bringing up the positives of his career, not the fact that he put out tha block is hot or lights out and wasnt good until gillie wrote carter 1 for him

In my humble opinion, "Lights Out" is a dope and very underrated album. He matured lyrically and flow wise on that jawnt, plus Mannie did the damn thang pretty much all the way thru. I still bump it.
 
TayGettem ;8446215 said:
_Goldie_;8444438 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8444378 said:
_Goldie_;8444258 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8444192 said:
_Goldie_;8444120 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;8444069 said:
_Goldie_;8444009 said:
I never heard ANY rapper name any of those 3 rappers in their top 5 lol . My point is among his peers he's considered one of the best to ever do it, cant say the rest for the other 3.

my point is thats cool what other niggas think but it dont really matter when we choosing who we think are up there. tip definitely up there with wayne, at least imo. the ear and eye test tells me that, not what master p said lol

they high on the list but not quite goat level, especially wayne the last few years, he's had bangers and flashes but he aint what he was, errbody know that.

Arguably the best MC in the game (Kendrick) isn't credible? Just like in sports, players opinion on the game >>>Sports writers and critics

The eye test tells you TIP is on Waynes level? lol So Tip has dominated the game for nearly a decade? I mustve missed that. And yea wayne isntat his prime right now (still dope imo) but neither is Tip. WHo is still in their prime? Jay? no Nas? no No legend is

so im suppose to think wayne the goat cuz kendrick said so? kendrick not even the best mc imo and bruh i dont live by that shit i think for my self im sorry lol. and like i said, kendrick also said krit one of the nicest. did that change your opinion on krit? shit for all i know tip get similar cosigns from other rappers, luda dem too for that matter.

wayne and tip are greats. not quite goats. wayne had a bigger peak, tip was more steady throughout, same year wayne biggest album dropped, tip's did too. and tips was better cuz empire fucked wayne over. both pretty much had equal success b4 that. sure wayne dropped carter 4 and went plat again after that but that shit wasnt quite the quality tip was droppin, trouble man was a dope album plus tip and wayne had some nice collabs goin head up. after no ceilings niggas been sayin wayne fell off for 5 years bruh. thats just now the case for tip. both would be in my top 10 favorites list, but i hesitate to put em up there with goats like kast, jay or nas (the latter two i dont even like as much as tip or wayne btw)

So you like Tip and Wayne better than Jay and Nas , but you'd put Jay and Nas in ur top 5 before Tip and Wayne? I don't get that b.

If we're talkin quality wise, then that can be debated (still don't think its close), but success and impact? Tip is no where near Wayne fam lol. The reason I brought up other Mc's top 5 was to say just cuz YOU or others in here don't think Wayne is Goat status , many of his contemporaries do consider him as one of the Goats. Somebody in the game saying he's Goat holds more merit than a random nigga online saying he isn't.

i differentiate between top rapper list and top personal favorite rapper list, tip and wayne are higher on the personal favorite list. if i actually listed shit it'd explain how im MUCH more likely to bump gucci mane but j. cole is the better rapper.

and we all random niggas online tho. if thats the case go debate with kendrick dem. why even waste time on the ic, we have no merit lol.

im not sure im gonna take the response serious but please go head explain how tip is "nowhere near wayne" success and impact wise. lol, i wanna see this.

From selling a mill in a week twice, to being the rapper with the most hot 100 billboard singles of alltime, to creating YM who is to this day running the game. But let yall tell it, Grand Hustle has had the same dominance lol

I didn't say our opinion holds no merit, I said his peers opinion holds more. If I can name over 10 MC's off the top of my head who have wayne in their top 5 and you cant even name one who has the other 3 in their top 10 let alone 5, then that says something.

Actually I think Drake has the most hit singles on the billboard now

elvis is 1st ,wayne is 2nd with 127 drake just hit 100
 
Elvis is still 1st?

Man that cracka stole more shit from niggaz than hustle man and bruh man combined
 
BackInWhite;8445493 said:
What purpose is that?

Jeezy is a horrible ceo

Wayne can't get his daddy to pay him

And tip is almost as bad a ceo as jeezy

Ross got other niggas eating out here while these other niggas can't even get release dates for they own shit

Tell me what the bigger purpose outside of rap is

fam look who said that stupid shit a Canadian who still listens 2 the ggggay-unit n the 2k15.....his opinion on american hip hop should not b taken seriously u can tell he's out ta the loop lol

 
Niggas picking ross strictly because of the CO shit they will never get over that shit. If real niggas in miami never gave a fuck why should you'll.

Musically ross has no weak projects including his group albums and non of them niggas on that list has been touching ross since 2010.

Ross has basically been a top 5 to 10 even number 1 a few years hottest rapper in the game every year since he debuted. You'll remember those lists... This year is now different black dollar>>>>>>>>>>

And stop it with the platinum talk I can count on my fingers how many rappers has went platinum since ross debuted and most of them niggas hasn't even reached double platinum and they never will,
 

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