ThaChozenWun
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Look on the page, there's like 4 topics on the same things. God and Jesus weren't the same person or being.
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;1041767 said:"Father, why have you forsaken me, right". Ok, it is said that Jesus was God in the Flesh,
And at that precise time when Jesus asked that question, God had; how can I say this, " taken his holiness" from jesus.
So if Jesus is God in the Flesh, who was on the cross at that exact moment?... I don’t know if im asking the question
The right way, but you know what I mean.
consult the oldest aramaic verision. he didnt say that...
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judahxulu;1041852 said:consult the oldest aramaic verision. he didnt say that...
what did he say?
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The Lonious Monk
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judahxulu;1041852 said:consult the oldest aramaic verision. he didnt say that...
What is your source for this? Where did you find this aramaic version? Just asking cause I wouldn't mind taking a look at it.
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damnkp;1041870 said:what did he say?
why did you spare me?
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The Lonious Monk;1041875 said:What is your source for this? Where did you find this aramaic version? Just asking cause I wouldn't mind taking a look at it.
the khabouris codex.
http://www.aent.org/
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adagreat;1042017 said:by you asking this question it shows that you dont believe
no, you ask questions to get a better understanding... Or atleast i do
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judahxulu;1041974 said:why did you spare me?
huh? Jesus wasnt spared doe... He died, so why would he say that?
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The Lonious Monk
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judahxulu;1041984 said:
Thanks, I might have to check this out.
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dusouljah;1042169 said:i actually challenged my pastor on this, cuz i felt as a consequence of being in a man's body jesus too had a moment where he doubted god, and the pain his body felt took over.....
it was a pretty good debate we had on the topic..
ok, what was the outcome of yall debate?
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Israelites
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@T/s
Jesus wasn't GOD when he was in the flesh, he left his seat in the ELOHIM when he became man leaving only the Father as the One true GOD, it wasn't until his resurrection, when he became the son of GOD & he went back to the third heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father..
Jesus wasn't GOD when he was in the flesh, he left his seat in the ELOHIM when he became man leaving only the Father as the One true GOD, it wasn't until his resurrection, when he became the son of GOD & he went back to the third heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father..
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BiblicalAtheist
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;1042206 said:ok, what was the outcome of yall debate?
As solid as it has been for the 2000 years: undecided.
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israelites;1042268 said:@t/s
jesus wasn't god when he was in the flesh, he left his seat in the elohim when he became man leaving only the father as the one true god, it wasn't until his resurrection, when he became the son of god & he went back to the third heaven to sit at the right hand of the father..
..ok, who was he when he said "why have u forsaken me" and why did he say that?
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DoUwant2go2Heaven
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;1041767 said:"Father, why have you forsaken me, right". Ok, it is said that Jesus was God in the Flesh,
And at that precise time when Jesus asked that question, God had; how can I say this, " taken his holiness" from jesus.
So if Jesus is God in the Flesh, who was on the cross at that exact moment?... I don’t know if im asking the question
The right way, but you know what I mean.
Jesus Christ was bearing the sin of all of humanity on the cross. God the Father placed the penalty of sin on His Son. He who knew no sin, was made sin for us. The Father had to withdraw His mercy, grace, and love from His Son, because the Son was making an offering for sin, by becoming sin for us. God the Father and sin can not mix. God is Holy. So thus, the Father at that moment had to turn His face away from the Son, because sin was placed upon Him. The penalty for OUR transgressions was placed upon Jesus Christ. And it was because of His love for us, that He provided a way for mankind to be reconciled back to the Father.
Thank Jesus Christ for making a way for you to be in His presence for all eternity my friend. Give God glory that your sin has been forgiven my brother. Praise His name. Glorify Him. Shout for joy my friend.
Glorify the Father of all goodness like the Psalmist David did in Psalm 32:1-2
"Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. 2Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile."
If that doesn't make a believer shout for joy, I would seriously have to question that persons salvation. Hallelujah!
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Israelites
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;1042398 said:..ok, who was he when he said "why have u forsaken me" and why did he say that?
he was still Jesus in his flesh & blood body, because he was getting killed, so he cried out to the Father, but nothing could help him, because he had to fulfill prophecy all the way down to when they gave him something to "drink" & he put his head down.
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kids in america_
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;1041767 said:"Father, why have you forsaken me, right". Ok, it is said that Jesus was God in the Flesh,
And at that precise time when Jesus asked that question, God had; how can I say this, " taken his holiness" from jesus.
So if Jesus is God in the Flesh, who was on the cross at that exact moment?... I don’t know if im asking the question
The right way, but you know what I mean.
Jesus is not the Supreme 'god' in the flesh but he is a 'god'. Well you know according to scripture.
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douwant2go2heaven?;1042493 said:jesus christ was bearing the sin of all of humanity on the cross. God the father placed the penalty of sin on his son. He who knew no sin, was made sin for us. The father had to withdraw his mercy, grace, and love from his son, because the son was making an offering for sin, by becoming sin for us. God the father and sin can not mix. God is holy. So thus, the father at that moment had to turn his face away from the son, because sin was placed upon him. The penalty for our transgressions was placed upon jesus christ. And it was because of his love for us, that he provided a way for mankind to be reconciled back to the father.
Thank jesus christ for making a way for you to be in his presence for all eternity my friend. Give god glory that your sin has been forgiven my brother. Praise his name. Glorify him. Shout for joy my friend.
Glorify the father of all goodness like the psalmist david did in psalm 32:1-2
"blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. 2blessed is the man unto whom the lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile."
if that doesn't make a believer shout for joy, i would seriously have to question that persons salvation. Hallelujah!
very well put... Thanks....
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TX_Made713
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Israelites;1042268 said:@T/s
Jesus wasn't GOD when he was in the flesh, he left his seat in the ELOHIM when he became man leaving only the Father as the One true GOD, it wasn't until his resurrection, when he became the son of GOD & he went back to the third heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father..
elohim is god in hebrew is it not?
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