Official Watch the Throne Thread...

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[PLASTIC RULES]

jay sounds soulless. its because he sold his soul to get where he is. his voice is hollow and substanceless, like a fiendish ghoul whose spiritual energy was leeched from him by the almighty dollar.

 

[pinpoint]

you gotta crawlllll before you balllllllll bitch......

 

[CoolJoe]

Illest MFer Alive is some next level shit. Track is beautiful

Co-Sign........

 

[pinpoint]

Dammm beanie sigel feeling that why I love you track... that was harsh Jay.......

 

[just.might.b.ok]

i listened to it again while going to work and it was good, solid album, not classic (but there's a few classic tracks)

 

[poindexter2]

cause i'm RICHER/RICHARD, and PRIOR/PRYOR to that I was moving FREEBASE

HE A SNAKE BUT YOU CANT DENY THE NIGGA IS PRETTY CLEVER

 

[who_shot_ya]

That WTT album is not wack, but it was very disappointing. If they really wanted to create a European vibe, why not work with European producers?

Why not ask a British producer who creates Grime beats???!

Biggie - Me & my Bitch > Common - Ghetto Dreams >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jay-Z & Kanye West - Thats my bitch

 

[DanknDrank]

lmao @ needing to have an agenda to not feel this album, im a fan of both their music.....im just not feeling this album

smh @ you staying on homies dick enough to mention his album out the blue, go cry a river

 

[senseispab]

Here everyone is giving our opinions about someone else's opinion

the difference is, we really are the nobodies.

 

[dan_the_man.com]

'gota have it' next single i bet. str8 club shit..

 

[t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088]

Questlove's opinion on everyone talking bout WTT... really good read

Long Rant Time: Questo’s Official Unofficial Review of Everyone Else’s #WTT Reviews -or- Just a 40-Year Old Vergin’ Washin The Throne
by questlove on August 8, 2011 0 Comment(s)

Let you in on a secret. I use Sushi spots as litmus tests for people.
That’s right: a 90 min dinner can tell me a person’s entire life
experience w/o them saying a thing. Jump in full throttle with BBQ
Eel? (They been places/seen thangs) Never tried chopsticks but willing
to learn? what’s “shellacked” mean? (Open mind means educated mind and
there are no dumb questions in Comsushing Sushi…sounds so solefull
don’t you agree?) “California Roll, that’s all” (plays it safe,
conservative, and/or too proud to say new experiences scare em, so
stick to what they know, no room for growth) & 2 types of “nah I’m
good” (those who tried Sushi & objectively concluded they don’t like
it, and those that already judge/jury’d it before they attempted it.)

Of course there are some laws I’ve applied to my life in this lane
I’ve decided to travel. 1st and foremost is the only mofos in my circle
are people that I CAN LEARN FROM.

i believe THAT is the first and foremost rule to a successful life.
you are going to be as educated and successful as the 10 most
frequented people you call/text on your phone. seriously. does the
truth hurt? is there an oz. of truth to it?

i keep my studio room at 30 Rock in pop culture hoarder mode cause i
notice that people that visit (mostly artists that sit in with us)
take time out to analyze what im about based on their glance in the
room. im a shy non people person in front of cats i idolize so this
room serves as a small talk substitute that lets me not have to talk
all that much.

they glance: “is that obama?…..a bowling trophy? what’s your
score?….how did you break that grammy?…..wait…BOTH of your
parents came from the same tribe in sierra leone?….prince gave you
that money? why’s it hanging suspended in air like that?….so you
keep Soul Train on repeat 24/7 in here?….what kind of NIKES are
those?!?!?!…

it goes on.

25 years ago this is what hip hop was all about. being on 3 way high
school style playing Rakim or De La or even Hammer over the phone just
talking about it. (he’ll kill me but Tariq was a MASSIVE Hammer
supporter during the Let’s Get It Started phase—–well he did use
the Apache break and back then your choice of breakbeat was a crucial
olive branch for non cats from your side of the world to get accepted)

as i stated in the Tribe doc the first time i had that 3 way summit
meeting with hip hop was Licensed To Ill (back then it was convincing
my cousin that Ad Rock was NOT puerto rican) in 86. and the last time
i had that moment was the tuesday i signed my record deal: Nov 9th
1993. the day Enter The 36 and Midnight Marauders came out. sure other
classics came out. but once you jump in the lake with sharks you no
longer listen from the perspective of a fan….you now listen to it as
a journalist (illmatic) with arms folded (the chronic) jaws dropped
willing to do whatever it takes to use your influence to help
(fantastic vol 1)…and yeah…a lil jealous (aquemini)

so of course not wanting to let a moment go by. im all about being
that 16 year older that is imagining Rakim’s painting of a Word filled
nile in 2011.

wait….did he just…

lol…. of course i dunno what the future is gonna hold for #WTT. but
i am keen enough to see all the signs of history repeating itself:

-the FIRST CAT: “i was there 1st!!!!!!!” people all on it 1st. i heard
it before you did! (i was tempted to write a review on itunes cause
noone wrote one as of 12:05am….but of course having not heard the
actual record i erased all 5 paragraphs lol)
-the FOH cat: there is a cut on The Roots 2nd album called “Swept
Away” my favorite quote: “i’m insane and go against the grain like
Fric (friction), never on no ni**a d**k cause im “just too hip”. cats
who are contrary against popular opinion because THAT is what defines
them.
-the foh to the FOH CATS cat: will embrace anything new/edgy because
that will reflect them.
-the actual objective no attachment cats: note….this doesn’t exist
people. for if you love hip hop then we ALL got stakes in one of the 3
above.

im getting a rush/kick outta everyone in the twittersphere weighing in
on #WTT its like watching drought fiends spotting that last crack rock
behind the couch on the floor praying to god to get a jones.

the “who won?!” lyrical war.
the “wtf he say?!?!?!” rewind moment
the “hmmm…. rza, tip, & pete don’t sound like rza, tip, & pete”
which alone is an interesting convo on its own thread. which im hoping
leads to “who is rza, tip, & pete, and how can i learn more about
them?” investigation
the “brag brag brag brag” grumps
the “well half these songs are dark fantasy throwaways so does it
count?” blogosphere cats

im not gonna yell @@@@@ classic just yet (never did yell that too
much, for a near classic @@@@1/2 reads more impressive than a a first
day out @@@@@ imo) but all the signs are there.

you comparing it your coming of age soundtrack? (chris rock said you
cherish the music for the first 5 years of you gettin some….that
becomes the music of “your time”)
this causing more arguments and debates with your crew?
you starting to feel old like *shrug*….i guess life is gonna pass me
by then….”–
you living in the moment and just loving it?

all these things make the C word.

and its some scary unfair ish.

i mean who wants to watch Kobe surpass Jordan in his ring acquisition?
to love hip hop is to love the underdog and hate the establishment.
so what does it mean when you watch the establishment go all dog on you?

conflicted feelings right?

jay and ye damn near wrote the book on “winner take all”. and all we
could do is vicariously live in it. and most times we have trouble
doing just that (im a dj, so the same cats arguing with me about
liking or not liking this project will be the same “LOOKAHEA! whatchu
need!!?!? what what chu need I GOT!!!!!!?!?!!?” quoting cats after
their 2nd glass of jack and coke when i spin it)

psssh this album is full of all the signs:

bass that killed my system.
hypocrisy (autotune, hov actually indeed having regrets)
great humor (ye—along with Phonte— is my favorite INTENTIONALLY
FUNNY person in black music since morris day. punch lines with
straight face and no shame of “will this make me look…..” if you
don’t laugh at that Adam/Rib line….you have 0 sense of humor. even
Ye has to pat his backpatter on the back for a job well done on
Primetime)
hmmm moments: i get the feeling “illest mofo alive” had a different
beat to it cause hov’s verse sounds like an acapella blend slightly
off on a Ron G mixtape. but that Peeing line flushes it all out. cause
that’s an ill visual. (not me but Jay)
beat switches for that ass: pt 2 of excellence
shock moments: swizz’s patches and presentation shocked me in a GREAT way.
that martin scorsese visual: hov’s foolin nobody but himself on “made
in america” that grandma/arm & hammer story is classic just like
martin’s mom cameo in goodfellas cooking the crew breakfast while a
body lies in the trunk.

ehh lemme stop.

even writing this review of a non review will be news.

im just saying.

live in the moment.

all this praise and controversy and conflict and argument and debates
and “WTF!?!!?!?!?” and nonsensical questulance is the true meaning of
hip hop.

so just so that yall straight next time yall see me whining about hip
hop….its not about hip hop more than its about the feeling hip hop
once gave.

the kind of feeling that now has me 2 hours late for my day job.

“the dog ate my score to the new sketch jimmy my bad….gimme 4 mins
to try something new”

—no seriously i got 5 “the hell are you coming in?!?!?!?!” text right now.

just wanted to weigh in my 2 cents and let these mofos know who i am.

great fucking drop and the bolded is so true. Basically what he's trying to say is no matter what we all have a label. With certain artists we DO catch feelings, certain niggas in hip hop do love to just go against the grain and protest against whatever's popular. I also think he was trying to say that if he does hate on shit and he is critical it's not based on what the product was like, it's based on what the product used to be and how he feels current artists can improve.

 

[tompetrez3]

fuck watch the throne. i dont give 2 shits about 9th wonder boring ass backpack music but the nigga is right on about the underwhelming feeling that this garbage ass album gives off. the album is 115 degree dumpster juice. fuck jay z and kanye. niggas sit here and talk shit about the south all day calling us generic, repeitive but yall in here givin a 47 year old man a pass for rapping about snapbacks, swag, selling drugs and bragging about money. he been doing that shit since 1998. yall niggas are the coons. yall niggas are the bammas. yall some simple minded niggas falling for the same pimp checks bitch routine that Jay Z pulls on yall every project. only retarded ass waterhead niggas call Jay Z the GOAT. If you 25+ bumping this album you need to hang yourself like brooks.

 

[dan_the_man.com]

i hav a friend on fb who heard wtt earlier sunday & he said it suckd too. i wouldnt go so far as to say that but it only 1/2 lived up 2 tha hype..

 

[Kame]

great fucking drop and the bolded is so true. Basically what he's trying to say is no matter what we all have a label. With certain artists we DO catch feelings, certain niggas in hip hop do love to just go against the grain and protest against whatever's popular. I also think he was trying to say that if he does hate on shit and he is critical it's not based on what the product was like, it's based on what the product used to be and how he feels current artists can improve.

Exactly i love that quote about praise and controversy and what it mean for hip hop

 

[CJ]

Get over it tomp

 

[DanknDrank]

Its one thing to play it on your ipod or computer

And another to play it in the whip high as a kite wit you swag spiraling outta control wit da windows down and your aura contagious

Watch the Throne

 

[usmarin3]

Seems to me niggas had their opinion on what they wanted to sound like (conscious raps, boom bap,etc). Lol at Big Pooh, 9th Wonder, Joel Ortiz, Saigon and other people catching feelings off the album.

The funny shit is, if they were to have made a boom bap and conscious sounding album(even though the album has elements), people would say they should of made something more progressive and fun. You can't pleaser errrrybody!

 

[tompetrez3]

Get over it tomp

you cannot point out one ORIGINAL/CREATIVE topic that was discussed on WTT.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Decent album but could have been so much better i dont get the genre changing album that we expected from these two....but whatwever Wiz prolly laughing at Kanye for that Amber Rose dig. btw i love New Day though