Official Rap Battle 2K12 Thread

[jono]

Foreal though @woah316 has a point about Lux round being long as hell. It was the same thing with Clips. I'm not gonna say they are "cheating" but they get advantages.

Its not an advantage if both rappers are allowed to rap aslong as they need to.

& woah´s rating scale alone lets me know ur not the brightest bulb in da pack.

That's not always the rule though. Each cats gets a set amount of minutes unless otherwise directed. When Clips rapped for 40 minutes against X-Factor that was fair, when Clips rapped for 5 against Aye Verb or Tay Roc it wasn't fair. One battle was unlimited, the other had time limits.

Its not cool that one nigga adheres to the rules and the other gets to stretch em. They need to bring the clocks back so people get to see how much time is left in the round.

I don't agree 100% with his rating scale but that 2nd rd between Lux & Calicoe was close, Lux only clearly won the third.

 

[ohhhla]

@Woah316

I was agreeing with you the whole time, then you say "Lux is overrated"???

I rather with "Mook is the G.O.A.T." than that shit.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

best battle I seen posted on here... Solomon gave a valiant effort... he lost the crowd and his mic sounded weird....

the Zimmerman shit was a fatality...

 

[Livefromclayco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=XarshmS62cU
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[CoolJoe]

Lux is overrated, but Arsonal is in your top 5? Calicoe got bodied and he's in your top 5? Conceited? Lmfao........I've seen some terrible lists, but god damn.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

1. Loaded Lux (people forgot he been putitng in work ...
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2. Serious Jones

3. Charlie Clips (even tho his battle vs Big T was closer than people will give Big t credit for)

For this era.

(and I still havent listened to Serious Jones vs charlie Clips yet)

There are also battle MCs such as Supernatural and MC Juice (the guy who beat Eminem back in his prime) who have in my top 2 of all time on some other shit.

People who generally say Aye verb and Conceited are great are the same type of dudes to follow a guy because they like his waves... jussayin.

 

[_Goldie_]

The same thing Lux and Mook said about Verb , is pretty much how I feel about homey. If u think Verb is wack as a battle rapper, then ur just hating. He was a monster in his earlier battles, now u can tell he isnt putting 100 percent in his craft. It looks like he´s just doing it for a check now. And its not like he´s spittin all garbage, but we´ve seen what he´s capable of doing, and he´s been no where close to that lately. So for him to be calling out Lux and Mook is ridiculous. U might not like da way Mook was spittin, but at the end of da day, he won the battle, no debating. And Verb has lost 4 of his last 5 battles.

Conceited is around number 10 or 11 on my list, he only has one angle which is using punchlines but he´s good at what he does. All that ¨slow it down¨ and rewinding da bars came from him. Same with Goodz, dat nigga was problem in his earlier battles, then he stop putting 100 percent in his bars too. But watch, when he battles X factor next month, he´s gonna body that nigga.

 

[almighty breeze]

Mook consistently pull wack skits that drag on and are very subpar lyrically and from a diss perspective...not to mention a live battle where he SHOULD all biases set aside lose the crowd

The Letter F shit he did against Jones was wack

The Trayvon shit was unnecessary, cheap and not good

Jones had it right when he said he gets carried away with his imagination.

Mook disgraces battle rap when he does these puppet shows in the middle of rounds. By now we've accepted that these arent "off the dome"/written but Mooks popularity helped condition us. Coming off the top is unrealistic if u want to win and usually the one losing complains about writtens. But Mook takes it overboard and makes it not even about bars or delivery and about can u put on the best side show

Add that to the whole "bring every nigga you've known since 3rd grade" thing (not sayin Mook started this) & Mook is representative of a lot of the things wrong with battle rap. Battling an NY nigga in New York is absolutely pointless, Solomons "from" NY but c'mon...i dont think solomon won or even put up a good fight but still, i cant give mook any credit for this horseshit *will ferrell voice*

That's why Mook is the Goat in terms of Battle Rap. Its not just about lyrics anymore if it was they couldn't pack venues at $85 - $150 per ticket. People pay to see a show and that's what these battlers have to put on. And the Vets aren't punchline and gun bar driven that's what separates them from the newbies.

i acknowledged that and never said it was "just" about lyrics cuz it never been "just" about lyrics or any one thing. (i said delivery which if we break it down can mean performance and phrasing etc. as well) Mook & those of his ilk make it not even about rap AT ALL. b/c they make it so that being the better MC not even just technically is irrelevant. It becomes who can shout the loudest & who can have the most props and bring the most friends present. Lux backed up his show by putting on one of the best battle perfomances recorded. Mook.....well we all see

What ur doing is = to the "he making money, stop hating" argument. tho i dont think thats exactly what ur saying

lol@ u implying Mook isnt gun or punchline heavy. thats what his 'legend' his built off of. He's from the same Youtube School of Punchline Rappers from 03/04 on who have gats that'll backflip a dinosaur and will show up ya block with the entire CIA behind them and fuck ya girl in front of u and so on.. This battle was the 1st one where he didnt go into long stanzas about his killing sprees and whatnot

 

[almighty breeze]

@Gen Stasia

interesting view point on the Nas & Jay thing

 

[DOPEdweebz]

i already called Lux = Nas and some idiot said "but nas cant freestyle'. typical stupid poster.

But I disagree about Mook seeing that he lost to S Jones and and at best had a draw with Jae Millz (I personally gave that one to Jae Millz). I do think Mook is alot better now then people want to give him credit for and would kill Aye verb.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

The same thing Lux and Mook said about Verb , is pretty much how I feel about homey. If u think Verb is wack as a battle rapper, then ur just hating. He was a monster in his earlier battles, now u can tell he isnt putting 100 percent in his craft. It looks like he´s just doing it for a check now. And its not like he´s spittin all garbage, but we´ve seen what he´s capable of doing, and he´s been no where close to that lately. So for him to be calling out Lux and Mook is ridiculous. U might not like da way Mook was spittin, but at the end of da day, he won the battle, no debating. And Verb has lost 4 of his last 5 battles.

Conceited is around number 10 or 11 on my list, he only has one angle which is using punchlines but he´s good at what he does. All that ¨slow it down¨ and rewinding da bars came from him. Same with Goodz, dat nigga was problem in his earlier battles, then he stop putting 100 percent in his bars too. But watch, when he battles X factor next month, he´s gonna body that nigga.

Well Mook said Aye verb is a loser. He's right. Not saying he's horrible but damn dont you watch his battles? Its embarassing.

 

[_Goldie_]

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[DOPEdweebz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwGz6JvKzfw
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i waa really hoping u werent going the easy dumb nigga route and post old footage of him winning while ur at it why dont you post iverson games from 2000...

 

[DOPEdweebz]

@Gen Stasia

interesting view point on the Nas & Jay thing

Now that i rethought bout maybe mook is becoming jay as far having the ability but sorta being overhyped so when he exceeds expectations it just makes him look greater than he actual is or some bs like that.

 

[almighty breeze]

^^^ only for the comparisons sake and for the reasons named do i agree with the analogy

i dont think Mook is the "Jay-Z" of battling or Lux being Nas.

As far as the Jay comment. i really think he either feels or isnt trying to prove anything or seperate himself & is just rapping to rap. "i only rap cuz im nice"-Cam.......on features Jay really only has to hold serve...enh

 

[_Goldie_]

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i waa really hoping u werent going the easy dumb nigga route and post old footage of him winning while ur at it why dont you post iverson games from 2000...

Im guessing u didnt read what i wrote, I said in his earlier battles he was a monster and now he raps as if he´s only there for a check.

 

[_Goldie_]

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[loch121]

And for niggas saying Loaded Lux killed Calico... Let me break down that battle:

First Round: Calico 1.16 Lux 1.0 ... All the points lux scored he lost because he choked.. He lucky I didn't put him at like .9 (negatives... I start my scoring at 1.0)...

Second Round: Calico 1.22 Lux 1.25 ...... Lux got this round barely

Third Round: Calico 1.12 .... Lux 1.1....

That 3rd round is so gassed up... But fact: Calico rapped for 3 minutes... Lux rapped for almost 8 minutes!!! How the fuck wasn't this nigga time up?? And even with the extra minutes, I stil didn't score his points higher than calico's!!! (I add on points for punches or hot shit... the hotter it is, the more points I add).... He had a whole extra 5 minutes, but still didn't score more.. shame.

This nigga made a whole verse trying to make dude feel bad about his pops... Where was the punchlines? Where was the wit?

TO me, that shit is gay as fuck....

I don't give a fuck what nobody say.. I'm not just a mook hater.... For me, if you get personal... It needs to be witty... I didn't give a damn about a long ass story about him trying to teach dude about some shit when he used to rap about guns and shit himself... That shit put me to sleep! I kept waiting and waiting for the punchlines... They never came besides a few.

When you factor in: He spit more than 2x longer than calico, the fact that the subject matter was wack to me, the fact that the crowd was INCREDIBLY biased, and then toss in the fact that he used to talk about guns and gangster shit himself?!!??!?!

He lost that battle... for anybody who actually has a brain.

@woah316 The rds were unlimited so actually Cal was an under achiever because he spit short ass verses.Most URL rds are like 5 minutes.Cal chose to make his verses short.

Seeing that Cal's whole image is based on his father being BMF, Lux took his whole image and broke him down

If Lux didn't win why is Jay Z tweeting his rhymes and his phrases becoming pop culture." Get this work" and he's getting hella interviews

If Cal won he would be getting mentioned.

Lux's battle has become so popular regular non battle fans now know of the lines in the battle

I was born in the D and still know Cal got bodied.

 

[_Goldie_]

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[_Goldie_]

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