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I wasn't bothered by the travon martin thing that much because by then I understood the contents of the intent as far as mook wanting to take advantage of being the black guy part and making solomon into an infamous dispised white figure for the judges. I think it coulda actually been pulled off alittle better if he was gonna do that but it was ok.The battle was already over and slippin into character at that point was a decent change of pace. What? Y'all wanted to here more crown references about being the king and best of this smack battle shit? I sure didn't, I was good by then.

Bottom line...(and 8m not a mook fan by any stretch) solomon got murdered bias crowd or not in a way that I never thought he could get murdered. That was an embarassing fall from grace for him. I felt bad for him. I'm thinking damn, this guy use to be sick as fuck,...what happen to him these last few years since I seen him?
 
CoolJoe;4922754 said:
Gen. Stasia;4922724 said:
almighty breeze;4921623 said:
Mook consistently pull wack skits that drag on and are very subpar lyrically and from a diss perspective...not to mention a live battle where he SHOULD all biases set aside lose the crowd

The Letter F shit he did against Jones was wack

The Trayvon shit was unnecessary, cheap and not good

Jones had it right when he said he gets carried away with his imagination.

Mook disgraces battle rap when he does these puppet shows in the middle of rounds. By now we've accepted that these arent "off the dome"/written but Mooks popularity helped condition us. Coming off the top is unrealistic if u want to win and usually the one losing complains about writtens. But Mook takes it overboard and makes it not even about bars or delivery and about can u put on the best side show

Add that to the whole "bring every nigga you've known since 3rd grade" thing (not sayin Mook started this) & Mook is representative of a lot of the things wrong with battle rap. Battling an NY nigga in New York is absolutely pointless, Solomons "from" NY but c'mon...i dont think solomon won or even put up a good fight but still, i cant give mook any credit for this horseshit *will ferrell voice*

That's why Mook is the Goat in terms of Battle Rap. Its not just about lyrics anymore if it was they couldn't pack venues at $85 - $150 per ticket. People pay to see a show and that's what these battlers have to put on. And the Vets aren't punchline and gun bar driven that's what separates them from the newbies.

Lux is the GOAT in terms of battle rap, and that's not debatable.

I judge them like I judge Jay Z and Nas. Mook is Hov and Lux is Nas.

Mook is the one with the crown in terms of Success and Name recognition. Nas is the Goat Lyrically no arguing that.
 
DR. JEK;4922801 said:
I wasn't bothered by the travon martin thing that much because by then I understood the contents of the intent as far as mook wanting to take advantage of being the black guy part and making solomon into an infamous dispised white figure for the judges. I think it coulda actually been pulled off alittle better if he was gonna do that but it was ok.The battle was already over and slippin into character at that point was a decent change of pace. What? Y'all wanted to here more crown references about being the king and best of this smack battle shit? I sure didn't, I was good by then.

Bottom line...(and 8m not a mook fan by any stretch) solomon got murdered bias crowd or not in a way that I never thought he could get murdered. That was an embarassing fall from grace for him. I felt bad for him. I'm thinking damn, this guy use to be sick as fuck,...what happen to him these last few years since I seen him?

That is exactly what I've been saying also. Solomon is usually pretty good at flipping people trying to use his race against him and he also does a good job of finding things to diss his opponent. Mook pretty much went the 8mile route and said all the things Solomon could use against him early and even switched his style from his usual gun talk to beat him.

I think Mook is overrated like many who posted in here but he destroyed Solomon and used a lot of facts on the guy to do so
 
Mook is talented but he's a lower tier legend. Like I'll put Jae Millz over him. Mook never really murdered a nigga like that.
 
woah316;4921638 said:
almighty breeze;4921623 said:
almighty breeze;4921623 said:
Mook consistently pull wack skits that drag on and are very subpar lyrically and from a diss perspective...not to mention a live battle where he SHOULD all biases set aside lose the crowd

The Letter F shit he did against Jones was wack

The Trayvon shit was unnecessary, cheap and not good

Jones had it right when he said he gets carried away with his imagination.

Mook disgraces battle rap when he does these puppet shows in the middle of rounds. By now we've accepted that these arent "off the dome"/written but Mooks popularity helped condition us. Coming off the top is unrealistic if u want to win and usually the one losing complains about writtens. But Mook takes it overboard and makes it not even about bars or delivery and about can u put on the best side show

Add that to the whole "bring every nigga you've known since 3rd grade" thing (not sayin Mook started this) & Mook is representative of a lot of the things wrong with battle rap. Battling an NY nigga in New York is absolutely pointless, Solomons "from" NY but c'mon...i dont think solomon won or even put up a good fight but still, i cant give mook any credit for this horseshit *will ferrell voice*

Thanks...

Real talk though... I've been watching battles all week..

The greatest battle rapper ever is probably conceited (if he was normal height)...

Real talk, the only way to even KEEP IT CLOSE is getting on his height... And I understand that's part of it, so no excuses...

But bar for bar... Wit.. Punchlines... metaphors.... This nigga come swinging EVERY LINE... it's like he don't let up...

He don't do a bunch of schemes and all that bullshit.. He come swinging... He's the best lyrically but he's so short it's easy to kill him.

Conceited is not the greatest rapper ever.

 
Some of my favorite battle rappers

Big t

Chilla jones

JC

Swave Sevah

Hitman

Hollow

O Red

Yung Ill

X factor

Soul khan

Honorable mention:

Rich dolarz is growing on me

other shit:

Clips is semi average to me...nigga get overhyped when he dont even have that crazy of a wordplay

conceited- 1 dimensional..i palm the rugger, i click clack the gat, i cock the glock, i squeeze yadda yadda

tsu surf- his hottest battles were against x and k shine-he lost to big t

dna-nigga be having them great first rounds then blow it sometimes

qp- nigga need to put the drugs down and write a 3rd round

t rex- it depends on who he facing determines how he will rap

mook-overrated and wack song maker

suge- bully with street shit but overall average as hell

calicoe- you will hear numerous bars from other battles he had

math hoffa-never really been that nice,only famous cuz of that sneak punch

cortez- nigga is gassed to much off his self when he lost alot of battles

 
There is no fucking way Mook is anywhere close to the GOAT Battle Rapper. Its EASILY LUX....I've never seen Lux lose and if you want to get into putting on a show that TD. Jakes shit he pulled on Cal was hella impressive. I also judge battle rappers by their opponents. Lux BODIED Cal, and Cal would body Mook.
 
Gen. Stasia;4922724 said:
almighty breeze;4921623 said:
Mook consistently pull wack skits that drag on and are very subpar lyrically and from a diss perspective...not to mention a live battle where he SHOULD all biases set aside lose the crowd

The Letter F shit he did against Jones was wack

The Trayvon shit was unnecessary, cheap and not good

Jones had it right when he said he gets carried away with his imagination.

Mook disgraces battle rap when he does these puppet shows in the middle of rounds. By now we've accepted that these arent "off the dome"/written but Mooks popularity helped condition us. Coming off the top is unrealistic if u want to win and usually the one losing complains about writtens. But Mook takes it overboard and makes it not even about bars or delivery and about can u put on the best side show

Add that to the whole "bring every nigga you've known since 3rd grade" thing (not sayin Mook started this) & Mook is representative of a lot of the things wrong with battle rap. Battling an NY nigga in New York is absolutely pointless, Solomons "from" NY but c'mon...i dont think solomon won or even put up a good fight but still, i cant give mook any credit for this horseshit *will ferrell voice*

That's why Mook is the Goat in terms of Battle Rap. Its not just about lyrics anymore if it was they couldn't pack venues at $85 - $150 per ticket. People pay to see a show and that's what these battlers have to put on. And the Vets aren't punchline and gun bar driven that's what separates them from the newbies.

So you base the "goat" off name recognition and not skill?

I'm sorry bro, but you're a fuckin idiot.

This aint wrestling... Where the bigger name automatically makes you the best... And shit, even then the Rock is still better than hulk hogan...

But anyway... I'm talking about SKILL...

And as far as conceited, I guess all of his punchlines do stick... Them shits hit HARD... He ripped Arsonal and T Rex... only reason he lost to arsonal was because of the short jokes...

Anyway, you said mook the goat... No point even talking to you further.

A random guy on a keyboard (well I'll admit I'm quite sick) dropped more heat than the "goat" of battle rap did in his BIGGEST BATTLE EVER...

I guess that makes me the goat.... Thanks!
 
I honestly think Loaded Lux is mad overatted... I don't like that nigga style... I can't understand half the shit he say...

You are a battle rapper, performing in front of a live audience.. I need to be able to understand you.. Not only do the nigga rap fast but he got a strong lipse... and he tries to hard on setting up some punchlines... HE'S FAR from the greatest battle rapper ever...

My top smack / grindingtime / kingof the dot battle rappers...

No Particular Order:

Dizaster

Serious Jones

Hollow Da Don

Conceited

Then I'd put Calico or Arsonal (right now... 5th spot is hard though)...
 
And for niggas saying Loaded Lux killed Calico... Let me break down that battle:

First Round: Calico 1.16 Lux 1.0 ... All the points lux scored he lost because he choked.. He lucky I didn't put him at like .9 (negatives... I start my scoring at 1.0)...

Second Round: Calico 1.22 Lux 1.25 ...... Lux got this round barely

Third Round: Calico 1.12 .... Lux 1.1....

That 3rd round is so gassed up... But fact: Calico rapped for 3 minutes... Lux rapped for almost 8 minutes!!! How the fuck wasn't this nigga time up?? And even with the extra minutes, I stil didn't score his points higher than calico's!!! (I add on points for punches or hot shit... the hotter it is, the more points I add).... He had a whole extra 5 minutes, but still didn't score more.. shame.

This nigga made a whole verse trying to make dude feel bad about his pops... Where was the punchlines? Where was the wit?

TO me, that shit is gay as fuck....

I don't give a fuck what nobody say.. I'm not just a mook hater.... For me, if you get personal... It needs to be witty... I didn't give a damn about a long ass story about him trying to teach dude about some shit when he used to rap about guns and shit himself... That shit put me to sleep! I kept waiting and waiting for the punchlines... They never came besides a few.

When you factor in: He spit more than 2x longer than calico, the fact that the subject matter was wack to me, the fact that the crowd was INCREDIBLY biased, and then toss in the fact that he used to talk about guns and gangster shit himself?!!??!?!

He lost that battle... for anybody who actually has a brain.
 
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woah316;4924373 said:
And for niggas saying Loaded Lux killed Calico... Let me break down that battle:

First Round: Calico 1.16 Lux 1.0 ... All the points lux scored he lost because he choked.. He lucky I didn't put him at like .9 (negatives... I start my scoring at 1.0)...

Second Round: Calico 1.22 Lux 1.25 ...... Lux got this round barely

Third Round: Calico 1.12 .... Lux 1.1....

That 3rd round is so gassed up... But fact: Calico rapped for 3 minutes... Lux rapped for almost 8 minutes!!! How the fuck wasn't this nigga time up??

This nigga made a whole verse trying to make dude feel bad about his pops... Where was the punchlines? Where was the wit?

TO me, that shit is gay as fuck....

I don't give a fuck what nobody say.. I'm not just a mook hater.... For me, if you get personal... It needs to be witty... I didn't give a damn about a long ass story about him trying to teach dude about some shit when he used to rap about guns and shit himself... That shit put me to sleep! I kept waiting and waiting for the punchlines... They never came besides a few.

When you factor in: He spit more than 2x longer than calico, the fact that the subject matter was wack to me, the fact that the crowd was INCREDIBLY biased, and then toss in the fact that he used to talk about guns and gangster shit himself?!!??!?!

He lost that battle... for anybody who actually has a brain.

LMAO!! And you have the nerve to call anybody else a fucking idiot?. Everybody and their moms knows Lux bodied him. FOH....this is the dumbest shit I've read. That 3rd round was some of the hardest hitting shit ever said in a battle. Had niggas calling their pops on some "Why didnt you hug me enough" shit.
 
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Foreal though @woah316 has a point about Lux round being long as hell. It was the same thing with Clips. I'm not gonna say they are "cheating" but they get advantages.
 
jono;4924474 said:
Foreal though @woah316 has a point about Lux round being long as hell. It was the same thing with Clips. I'm not gonna say they are "cheating" but they get advantages.

Its not an advantage if both rappers are allowed to rap aslong as they need to.

& woah´s rating scale alone lets me know ur not the brightest bulb in da pack.

 
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woah316;4924340 said:
Gen. Stasia;4922724 said:
almighty breeze;4921623 said:
Mook consistently pull wack skits that drag on and are very subpar lyrically and from a diss perspective...not to mention a live battle where he SHOULD all biases set aside lose the crowd

The Letter F shit he did against Jones was wack

The Trayvon shit was unnecessary, cheap and not good

Jones had it right when he said he gets carried away with his imagination.

Mook disgraces battle rap when he does these puppet shows in the middle of rounds. By now we've accepted that these arent "off the dome"/written but Mooks popularity helped condition us. Coming off the top is unrealistic if u want to win and usually the one losing complains about writtens. But Mook takes it overboard and makes it not even about bars or delivery and about can u put on the best side show

Add that to the whole "bring every nigga you've known since 3rd grade" thing (not sayin Mook started this) & Mook is representative of a lot of the things wrong with battle rap. Battling an NY nigga in New York is absolutely pointless, Solomons "from" NY but c'mon...i dont think solomon won or even put up a good fight but still, i cant give mook any credit for this horseshit *will ferrell voice*

That's why Mook is the Goat in terms of Battle Rap. Its not just about lyrics anymore if it was they couldn't pack venues at $85 - $150 per ticket. People pay to see a show and that's what these battlers have to put on. And the Vets aren't punchline and gun bar driven that's what separates them from the newbies.

So you base the "goat" off name recognition and not skill?

I'm sorry bro, but you're a fuckin idiot.

This aint wrestling... Where the bigger name automatically makes you the best... And shit, even then the Rock is still better than hulk hogan...

But anyway... I'm talking about SKILL...

And as far as conceited, I guess all of his punchlines do stick... Them shits hit HARD... He ripped Arsonal and T Rex... only reason he lost to arsonal was because of the short jokes...

Anyway, you said mook the goat... No point even talking to you further.

A random guy on a keyboard (well I'll admit I'm quite sick) dropped more heat than the "goat" of battle rap did in his BIGGEST BATTLE EVER...

I guess that makes me the goat.... Thanks!

Huh? All of Conceited punches stick? "Make like a Banana and split" Hush up.

And I already said Lux is Lyrically the best but I have to commend Mook for who he is. And honestly other than Millz nobody truely SPANKED him. Lux won but didn't body him. And Mook has battled all top teir ppl beside young Hot.

 

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