south4life
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We got that injury exception for McRoberts so we might get one more addition to the team, might as well bring back Khem Birch, ain't like Riley gonna make anymore moves this year.
for yall down there..
Whiteside Meet and Greet:
HEAT Fans – Don’t miss your opportunity to meet breakout Miami HEAT star Hassan Whiteside on Sunday, March 1st from 3:00 to 4:00 p.m. at The Miami HEAT Store’s Dolphin Mall location. Whiteside will be mingling with fans and signing autographs.
Whiteside Meet and Greet:
HEAT Fans – Don’t miss your opportunity to meet breakout Miami HEAT star Hassan Whiteside on Sunday, March 1st from 3:00 to 4:00 p.m. at The Miami HEAT Store’s Dolphin Mall location. Whiteside will be mingling with fans and signing autographs.
infamous114
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Whattt lol. I live nearby. That's what's up.
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infamous114
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### An Eastern Conference general manager said Tuesday the Heat likely lacks the assets to make a meaningful move before the Feb. 19 trade deadline. He said Norris Cole has been mentioned in trade talks “but what are you going to get for him? He’s a backup. They don’t have much to give up. Josh McRoberts would have value for a team out of the playoffs. Birdman [Chris Andersen] would have value for a playoff team but a playoff team is not trading you a quality [wing] for him.”
### The GM said Mo Williams --– traded from Minnesota to Charlotte on Tuesday --- was the only starting-caliber point guard he had heard was being shopped.
### A source in contact with Detroit confirmed the Pistons offered impending free agent power forward Jonas Jerebko to the Heat for Cole. But as MLLive.com reported, Detroit rejected Miami’s demand that the Pistons also take Danny Granger, who’s due $2.2 million next season.
### One limitation is the Heat cannot trade a first-round pick until 2017 because of league rules. Its 2015 first-rounder (top 10 protected) will be sent to Philadelphia through Cleveland.
Read more here:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...nges-heat-buzz-dolphins-ol.html#storylink=cpy
### The GM said Mo Williams --– traded from Minnesota to Charlotte on Tuesday --- was the only starting-caliber point guard he had heard was being shopped.
### A source in contact with Detroit confirmed the Pistons offered impending free agent power forward Jonas Jerebko to the Heat for Cole. But as MLLive.com reported, Detroit rejected Miami’s demand that the Pistons also take Danny Granger, who’s due $2.2 million next season.
### One limitation is the Heat cannot trade a first-round pick until 2017 because of league rules. Its 2015 first-rounder (top 10 protected) will be sent to Philadelphia through Cleveland.
Read more here:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...nges-heat-buzz-dolphins-ol.html#storylink=cpy
detcatinva
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infamous114;7787093 said:
we dont want them scrubs
infamous114
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Bosh with another trash game. Whiteside stays outplaying him. Wade can't come back fast enough.
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infamous114
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Bosh is stealing money from the Heat. Unacceptable how this faggot is playing. Riley needs to wake up.
detcatinva
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bosh benefited the most by joining the big 3. he increased his exposure and now people will remember him as a better player than he really was. he then flipped that into getting a huge contract.
he's not a franchise level player. I don't want my bug man being soft on the glass and not protecting the rim
he's not a franchise level player. I don't want my bug man being soft on the glass and not protecting the rim
infamous114
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### Wednesday provided another reminder of everything the Heat is missing without LeBron James. Most are obvious, but this has been a more subtle impact: All seven returning Heat players are shooting less accurately with James no longer around to draw so much of the defensive focus.
Four of the seven are shooting worse than they ever have as NBA players. For Chris Bosh, the sizable drop-off is even more pronounced when Dwyane Wade is sidelined.
“LeBron did make things a lot easier for guys, but you can’t use that as an excuse,” Norris Cole said. “Sometimes we try to get too much of the perfect shot instead of taking what’s open. Sometimes, we’re hesitant on shots.”
The Heat is shooting 45.5 percent (12th in the league) compared to a league-best 50.1 last season.
Wade, who was usually the NBA’s most accurate shooting guard before and after James’ arrival, has seen his percentage drop from a remarkable 54.5 (best among two-guards last season) to 48.7 (third in the league at his position).
Bosh has dropped from 51.6 to 46.0, his worst percentage since his rookie season (45.9). What's more, Bosh is shooting just 44.5 percent this season in games Wade doesn’t play.
His less accurate shooting post-LeBron “was to be expected,” said Bosh, who has dropped from 22nd last season to 58th in the NBA in shooting percentage among qualifiers. “The volume has increased and you see the difficulty with the defense shifting over and focusing more on me. They’re really loading up on me. It’s not getting shots in spots I want. Before I was just lining guys up wide open and shooting 50 percent. That’s easy.”
Cole is down from 41.4 last season to a career-low 38.6, Mario Chalmers from 45.4 to 39.9 (equaling his career worst), Udonis Haslem from 50.7 to a career-low 42.3, Chris Andersen from 64.4 to a still excellent 62.8, and seldom-used Justin Hamilton from 45 to 41.5.
### An official who has spoken to the Heat said Miami very much likes Phoenix combo guard Goran Dragic, who has a $7.5 million player option for next season and is expected to test unrestricted free agency. But he will command more than Miami can offer (a midlevel exception) barring a sign-and-trade or a significant clearing of cap space.
A Racine, Wis. newspaper said Thursday that the Suns are open to trading Dragic and want a first-round pick.
Oklahoma City impending restricted free agent Reggie Jackson also intrigues the Heat. Jackson politely declined to say if the Heat interests him.
### Real GM reported tonight that the Heat has explored a trade for Denver's Jameer Nelson, who has played for three teams this season, but that nothing is imminent.
But I'm not sure Nelson, in steep decline at 33, would be much of an upgrade. He's averaging 7.5 points and shooting just 36.6 percent this season and is now dealing with an Achilles' injury. He would be worth a second-rounder at most and only if Miami deals Cole. But the Heat already has one small point guard with defensive issues (Shabazz Napier).
### Besides point guard, backup shooting remains an issue, even amid some good moments from Tyler Johnson.
“Mike [Miller] and Ray [Allen] weren't just great shooters," Bosh said. "They were great passers, could finish at the rim. When we play two point guards, it can work because we can push the tempo. But size is one thing we have to worry about with that lineup.”
Small forward Danny Granger hasn’t played shooting guard because he’s too vulnerable defensively at that position.
Though the Heat spoke to Ray Allen last summer, Miami surprisingly never made an offer to re-sign him. Allen is considering whether to resume his career, likely with a contender.
An Eastern Conference GM said Denver’s Wilson Chandler is the swingman who is most actively being shopped. Denver also has made Aaron Afflalo available, and the Heat is said to have interest. But ESPN reported the Nuggets want a first-round pick for both players, and Miami cannot offer one before 2017, per league rules prohibiting teams from trading its own first-rounder in consecutive years.
Read more here:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...staff-changes-marlins-news.html#storylink=cpy
Four of the seven are shooting worse than they ever have as NBA players. For Chris Bosh, the sizable drop-off is even more pronounced when Dwyane Wade is sidelined.
“LeBron did make things a lot easier for guys, but you can’t use that as an excuse,” Norris Cole said. “Sometimes we try to get too much of the perfect shot instead of taking what’s open. Sometimes, we’re hesitant on shots.”
The Heat is shooting 45.5 percent (12th in the league) compared to a league-best 50.1 last season.
Wade, who was usually the NBA’s most accurate shooting guard before and after James’ arrival, has seen his percentage drop from a remarkable 54.5 (best among two-guards last season) to 48.7 (third in the league at his position).
Bosh has dropped from 51.6 to 46.0, his worst percentage since his rookie season (45.9). What's more, Bosh is shooting just 44.5 percent this season in games Wade doesn’t play.
His less accurate shooting post-LeBron “was to be expected,” said Bosh, who has dropped from 22nd last season to 58th in the NBA in shooting percentage among qualifiers. “The volume has increased and you see the difficulty with the defense shifting over and focusing more on me. They’re really loading up on me. It’s not getting shots in spots I want. Before I was just lining guys up wide open and shooting 50 percent. That’s easy.”
Cole is down from 41.4 last season to a career-low 38.6, Mario Chalmers from 45.4 to 39.9 (equaling his career worst), Udonis Haslem from 50.7 to a career-low 42.3, Chris Andersen from 64.4 to a still excellent 62.8, and seldom-used Justin Hamilton from 45 to 41.5.
### An official who has spoken to the Heat said Miami very much likes Phoenix combo guard Goran Dragic, who has a $7.5 million player option for next season and is expected to test unrestricted free agency. But he will command more than Miami can offer (a midlevel exception) barring a sign-and-trade or a significant clearing of cap space.
A Racine, Wis. newspaper said Thursday that the Suns are open to trading Dragic and want a first-round pick.
Oklahoma City impending restricted free agent Reggie Jackson also intrigues the Heat. Jackson politely declined to say if the Heat interests him.
### Real GM reported tonight that the Heat has explored a trade for Denver's Jameer Nelson, who has played for three teams this season, but that nothing is imminent.
But I'm not sure Nelson, in steep decline at 33, would be much of an upgrade. He's averaging 7.5 points and shooting just 36.6 percent this season and is now dealing with an Achilles' injury. He would be worth a second-rounder at most and only if Miami deals Cole. But the Heat already has one small point guard with defensive issues (Shabazz Napier).
### Besides point guard, backup shooting remains an issue, even amid some good moments from Tyler Johnson.
“Mike [Miller] and Ray [Allen] weren't just great shooters," Bosh said. "They were great passers, could finish at the rim. When we play two point guards, it can work because we can push the tempo. But size is one thing we have to worry about with that lineup.”
Small forward Danny Granger hasn’t played shooting guard because he’s too vulnerable defensively at that position.
Though the Heat spoke to Ray Allen last summer, Miami surprisingly never made an offer to re-sign him. Allen is considering whether to resume his career, likely with a contender.
An Eastern Conference GM said Denver’s Wilson Chandler is the swingman who is most actively being shopped. Denver also has made Aaron Afflalo available, and the Heat is said to have interest. But ESPN reported the Nuggets want a first-round pick for both players, and Miami cannot offer one before 2017, per league rules prohibiting teams from trading its own first-rounder in consecutive years.
Read more here:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...staff-changes-marlins-news.html#storylink=cpy
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south4life
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Wilson Chandler would be a good look, get rid of Granger too
south4life
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True we just stuck with what we got for the rest of the year
infamous114
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Rio got a bad bitch.
infamous114
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### Spoke to two NBA general managers in the past week and both said the Heat’s lack of assets is seriously limiting them in trade talks. One of the GMs said Monday that the Heat badly wants to make the playoffs and thus is not looking to trade veterans for prospects.
"They can’t get much for [Chris Andersen] or any of their point guards so I don’t see them adding anything of significance," that GM said.
Denver reportedly is listening to offers for point guard Ty Lawson, but he’s due $25.6 million over the next two seasons. Phoenix is listening on point guard Isaiah Thomas, but he has three years and $20 million left on his contract after this season and he's shorter (5-9) than the Heat ideally prefers. But remember, Riley said he wants to take on contracts past 2016 only for high-end players....
Among cheap point guard options, Sacramento's Ramon Sessions has been mentioned in trade talks, according to one of the GMs. But he's shooting just 34 percent this season and is a career 31 percent shooter from three-point range....
The Heat likes Denver shooting guard Aaron Afflalo, but as Yahoo! noted, doesn't have enough to entice Denver.
### Only Memphis is allowing fewer points than the Heat --- partly the result of Miami’s slow pace (the Heat has the fewest possessions per game) --- and former Heat forward Shane Battier said he “laughs” because Erik Spoelstra is now trying some things defensively, on pick and rolls specifically, that Battier suggested but Spoelstra never agreed to do until Battier retired.
Read more here:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...r-elite-front-seven-talent.html#storylink=cpy
"They can’t get much for [Chris Andersen] or any of their point guards so I don’t see them adding anything of significance," that GM said.
Denver reportedly is listening to offers for point guard Ty Lawson, but he’s due $25.6 million over the next two seasons. Phoenix is listening on point guard Isaiah Thomas, but he has three years and $20 million left on his contract after this season and he's shorter (5-9) than the Heat ideally prefers. But remember, Riley said he wants to take on contracts past 2016 only for high-end players....
Among cheap point guard options, Sacramento's Ramon Sessions has been mentioned in trade talks, according to one of the GMs. But he's shooting just 34 percent this season and is a career 31 percent shooter from three-point range....
The Heat likes Denver shooting guard Aaron Afflalo, but as Yahoo! noted, doesn't have enough to entice Denver.
### Only Memphis is allowing fewer points than the Heat --- partly the result of Miami’s slow pace (the Heat has the fewest possessions per game) --- and former Heat forward Shane Battier said he “laughs” because Erik Spoelstra is now trying some things defensively, on pick and rolls specifically, that Battier suggested but Spoelstra never agreed to do until Battier retired.
Read more here:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...r-elite-front-seven-talent.html#storylink=cpy
infamous114
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### Pat Riley has said he does not want to make a lateral move at the trade deadline, that if he does something he wants it to be something that makes a genuine difference.
That’s why a bid for disgruntled Phoenix guard Goran Dragic makes by far the most sense of anything potentially available. But here’s the problem: Yahoo! reported tonight that, in return, the Suns want a young player with significant potential and one or two first-round draft picks.
The Heat, by league rule, cannot trade a first-round pick until 2017 (unless it acquires one from another team first). And the Heat obviously doesn't have a can't miss young player, excluding Hassan Whiteside, who can't be traded by league rule (within three months of signing his contract) and isn't available anyway.
But keep this in mind: Though rookie point guard Shabazz Napier wouldn't be remotely close to equal value for Dragic, the Suns raved about him before the draft last June.
"We place a value on winning, and I think of the guys in the draft he's probably one of the most ready to come in and make an impact right away," Suns GM Ryan McDonough said last June.
And after Napier's Suns workout last June, coach Jeff Hornacek said: "Shabazz, with his speed, quickness, condition, I thought was really good for as much as we do running. He kept pushing the ball, which is our style. That's what we want to see." Hmmm.
According to Yahoo, the Suns have been focusing their trade talks on teams that are not on Dragic’s list of preferred destinations: the Celtics, Kings and Rockets. Dragic does not wish to go to any of those teams, according to multiple reports, and it’s questionable how much any of them would be willing to give up with the knowledge that Dragic could bolt as an unrestricted free agent this summer.
The Heat apparently is willing to put nearly all its chips on the table in an attempt to make a significant move. As Yahoo’s Marc Spears noted, every player on the Heat roster is available except Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade and Hassan Whiteside.
But Luol Deng or Josh McRoberts likely would be moved only for a high-quality starter.
As for Dragic, he made it clear today that he wants out.
“I don’t trust them anymore,” he said of Suns management in an interview with the Arizona Republic and other Phoenix reporters. “I want to be a point guard, like I was in the past, all my life. To be a point guard to run the team, to have the ball in my hands and try to make plays for others. That’s who I am.”
Besides Dragic, what else available would qualify as a significant upgrade? Thunder backup point guard Reggie Jackson has asked for a trade, according to Yahoo, but Oklahoma City might not accommodate him because he will be a restricted (not unrestricted) free agent this summer.
ESPN mentioned Indiana, Boston, Houston and Denver as suitors. But Jackson reportedly rejected a four year, $48 million contract from the Thunder and it would be somewhat risky to offer substantially more to a player who has averaged nine points and three assists in his career with just 49 career starts.
### Washington and Detroit reportedly have inquired about Norris Cole, but ESPN said the Heat is insisting Danny Granger’s contract (worth $2.2 million next season) be included in any deal.
If the Heat doesn’t trade Cole on Thursday, it would stand to lose him this offseason unless it makes him a $3 million qualifying offer.... Denver has interesting assets available (Ty Lawson, Aaron Afflalo, Wilson Chandler), but the Nuggets want first-round picks (which the Heat lacks), and Lawson's deal --- with two seasons left --- is too burdensome.
Read more here:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...ricanes-marlins-news-notes.html#storylink=cpy
That’s why a bid for disgruntled Phoenix guard Goran Dragic makes by far the most sense of anything potentially available. But here’s the problem: Yahoo! reported tonight that, in return, the Suns want a young player with significant potential and one or two first-round draft picks.
The Heat, by league rule, cannot trade a first-round pick until 2017 (unless it acquires one from another team first). And the Heat obviously doesn't have a can't miss young player, excluding Hassan Whiteside, who can't be traded by league rule (within three months of signing his contract) and isn't available anyway.
But keep this in mind: Though rookie point guard Shabazz Napier wouldn't be remotely close to equal value for Dragic, the Suns raved about him before the draft last June.
"We place a value on winning, and I think of the guys in the draft he's probably one of the most ready to come in and make an impact right away," Suns GM Ryan McDonough said last June.
And after Napier's Suns workout last June, coach Jeff Hornacek said: "Shabazz, with his speed, quickness, condition, I thought was really good for as much as we do running. He kept pushing the ball, which is our style. That's what we want to see." Hmmm.
According to Yahoo, the Suns have been focusing their trade talks on teams that are not on Dragic’s list of preferred destinations: the Celtics, Kings and Rockets. Dragic does not wish to go to any of those teams, according to multiple reports, and it’s questionable how much any of them would be willing to give up with the knowledge that Dragic could bolt as an unrestricted free agent this summer.
The Heat apparently is willing to put nearly all its chips on the table in an attempt to make a significant move. As Yahoo’s Marc Spears noted, every player on the Heat roster is available except Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade and Hassan Whiteside.
But Luol Deng or Josh McRoberts likely would be moved only for a high-quality starter.
As for Dragic, he made it clear today that he wants out.
“I don’t trust them anymore,” he said of Suns management in an interview with the Arizona Republic and other Phoenix reporters. “I want to be a point guard, like I was in the past, all my life. To be a point guard to run the team, to have the ball in my hands and try to make plays for others. That’s who I am.”
Besides Dragic, what else available would qualify as a significant upgrade? Thunder backup point guard Reggie Jackson has asked for a trade, according to Yahoo, but Oklahoma City might not accommodate him because he will be a restricted (not unrestricted) free agent this summer.
ESPN mentioned Indiana, Boston, Houston and Denver as suitors. But Jackson reportedly rejected a four year, $48 million contract from the Thunder and it would be somewhat risky to offer substantially more to a player who has averaged nine points and three assists in his career with just 49 career starts.
### Washington and Detroit reportedly have inquired about Norris Cole, but ESPN said the Heat is insisting Danny Granger’s contract (worth $2.2 million next season) be included in any deal.
If the Heat doesn’t trade Cole on Thursday, it would stand to lose him this offseason unless it makes him a $3 million qualifying offer.... Denver has interesting assets available (Ty Lawson, Aaron Afflalo, Wilson Chandler), but the Nuggets want first-round picks (which the Heat lacks), and Lawson's deal --- with two seasons left --- is too burdensome.
Read more here:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...ricanes-marlins-news-notes.html#storylink=cpy
