Official J Cole: Cole World album thread

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c.b.b.;3216135 said:
Surprised "Lights Please" is on this album.

I can't blame him for putting "In The Morning" on the album since the label wants a Drake feature, but I wonder why they put another song from "Friday Night Lights" on this

Anticipating this nonetheless

I understand the reasoning, because its a really dope song...

Alot of times these rapper put their best songs on their mixtapes and when the actual album drops I see people say damn he should have been so and so song on the album instead of some random filler track......

in five years if this album is a classic (hopefully) you will not be sayin damn light please was released a year early than the album, lol youll be like damn thats a solid track list that can be played all the way through....
 
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I'm glad Lights please was added and in the morning ft drake is there to attract the RADIOHEADS. Smart move the Album looks promising only time can tell...9/27
 
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Sanyika;3216179 said:
I understand the reasoning, because its a really dope song...

Alot of times these rapper put their best songs on their mixtapes and when the actual album drops I see people say damn he should have been so and so song on the album instead of some random filler track......

in five years if this album is a classic (hopefully) you will not be sayin damn light please was released a year early than the album, lol youll be like damn thats a solid track list that can be played all the way through....

True, that's a good point.

It's just that most artists save real songs for their albums instead of releasing it on a mixtape almost a year before.

Would be like Game taking a song from Purp & Patron (which were throw away songs he gave away for free) and putting it on "The Red Album"
 
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c.b.b.;3216320 said:
True, that's a good point.

It's just that most artists save real songs for their albums instead of releasing it on a mixtape almost a year before.

Would be like Game taking a song from Purp & Patron (which were throw away songs he gave away for free) and putting it on "The Red Album"

Maybe he will switch up the song a little like a kanye type of thing or add an extra verse......
 
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you niggas is the biggest hypocrites
when niggas saw the tracklisting for wtt and niggas said it looked wack niggas was screamin, "niggas judgin music by tracklistings now?"
but since it's j.cole, the savior of hip hop, we can all sit back and say his tracklist "sounds" dope
some shit you can't hear "sounds" dope
goddamn the reason is fulla hypocrisy
 
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i hope the production is on point if not this nigga could be off the face of the earth lol cole dont let us down
 
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Str8Skippin;3216100 said:
Track List (all songs produced solely by J. Cole except where noted).

1. Intro

2. Dollar and a Dream III (Prod. by The University & J. Cole)

3. Can’t Get Enough Feat. Trey Songz (Prod. by Brian Kidd)

4. Lights Please

5. Interlude

6. Sideline Story

7. Mr. Nice Watch Feat. Jay-Z

8. Cole World

9. In The Morning Feat. Drake (Prod. by L&X Music)

10. Lost Ones

11. Nobody’s Perfect Feat. Missy Elliot

12. Never Told (Prod. by No I.D)

13. Rise and Shine

14. God’s Gift

15. Breakdown

16. Cheer Up (Prod. by DanjaHandz & J. Cole)

Bonus Tracks:

17. Nothing Lasts Forever

18. Work Out

19. Daddy’s Little Girl

WHy do people put singles as bonus tracks?? why??
 
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MC The Rapper;3216798 said:
why he got old ass tracks as regular tracks

i know nigga bring 2 year old songs into the thing. Another thing that pissed me off is dollar and a dream III like really? You bout to make a 3rd one? This nigga literally makes 3 different copies of the same song like hes writing a grade school paper and is making multiple drafts. I hates when ross did that with maybach music 3 too. And fuck rappes in general coming with garbage ass recylced bonus tracks.
 
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Monizzle14;3216811 said:
i know nigga bring 2 year old songs into the thing. Another thing that pissed me off is dollar and a dream III like really? You bout to make a 3rd one? This nigga literally makes 3 different copies of the same song like hes writing a grade school paper and is making multiple drafts. I hates when ross did that with maybach music 3 too. And fuck rappes in general coming with garbage ass recylced bonus tracks.

rise of young simba part 4 coming soon but yeah thats pretty whack, and he really producing the majority of his album , that's not a good ideas at least have a co producer because none of his production to date has been strong enough to carry a commercial release case in point Work Out. Unless he becomes Toomp over night or something i don't know
 
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Aint no way in hell J Cole will even sniff gold let alone break a milliion. Nigga gonna do Lil Sean numbers and top out at 250k total

Now dont get me wrong I think the nigga talented as fuck but we gotta be realistic when u type shit.

I feel bad for the nigga cause Hov bout to have a kid and aint gonna give a fuck about Roc Nation, especially when J. Cole numbers come back.
 
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he don't give a fuck about j.cole now and j.cole is honestly average when you really look at objectively theres a lot of talent out there that people over look as far as rapper/producer he's third behind Krit and Nesby Phips lyrically he isn't better than STS, Freddie Gibbs or Kendrick Lamar so he isn't horrible but he isn't the best either
 
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What's the point of making old songs (Morning and Lights Please) on the regular tracklisting, and putting fresh cuts as the bonus. smh Why not just make them the bonus, unless he adds something to those old songs.

Still buying anyways, because you're still getting a bunch of fresh songs and it looks like Ceelo didn't make the album.

As for his production, everyone who has reviewed it said he stepped up production wise so i'm not worrying about that. I'm sure NO ID ain't letting him put out no wack shit.
 
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You actually read some shit on a message board and it's not true? can't imagine that. Like wale said too many of us are trying to be A & R's. That niggas sales don't effect my life in any way. the music should be dope and that's what matters. I don't see any of these new cats selling much. They kinda bringing on themselves though when they throw out the word classic.

and Hov is the CEO of Roc Nation they got a shit load of other employees that handle j cole hands on on a daily basis. That's not really jay's job per se. cole will be find he doesn't need jay to hold his hand
 
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Tracklist and Song by Song breakdown

1. Intro
2. Dollar and a Dream III
3. Can’t Get Enough ft. Trey Songz
4. Lights Please
5. Interlude
6. Sideline Story
7. Mr. Nice Watch ft. Jay-Z
8. Cole World
9. In The Morning ft. Drake
10. Lost Ones
11. Nobody’s Perfect ft. Missy Elliot
12. Never Told (Prod. by No I.D.)
13. Rise and Shine
14. God’s Gift
15. Breakdown
16. Cheer Up

Bonus Tracks:
17. Nothing Lasts Forever
18. Work Out
19. Daddy’s Little Girl

A few things about the album after hearing it a week and a half ago:

Except for three songs, J. Cole produced the whole thing (and co-produced one track). More info below, including a track-by-track rundown of the album plus my thoughts:

“Intro”: It wasn’t ready at that point, but he said it would be a true J. Cole intro with him talking on it.

“Dollar and a Dream III”: Same chorus as the first two, but this one was a dark track with a classic Cole flow/subject matter: turning nothing into something. It had a real gloomy feel to it though, like it was made inside a cemetary.

“Can’t Get Enough”: Cole World‘s next single and the video has already been shot. This could have easily been a random album cut, had they not thrown Trey Songz on it.

“Lights Please”: He told a great, unabridged version of the story behind this song and how it went from him to his manager Mark Pitts’ office to Jay-Z’s ears. He said he could have changed the beat but it would have been too cluttered and he prefered the simplicity of the beat, probably also the symbolism of the track.

“Interlude”: Brilliantly samples the “Apple Jacks” skit from Backstage. Nuff said.

“Sideline Story”: One of (two) title tracks on the album. Piano beat, Nas-ish flow, one of the better Cole choruses on the album. After one line about the come up and another about the Roc, I realized J. Cole was probably the best person Jay-Z could sign with all these lines and references (see: track 13).

“Mr. Nice Watch”: Initially not the track he wanted Jay to get on, but it does reference the line from “A Million and One Questions”. Cole said he thought about using the title after reading it as a headline in a “rich person’s magazine”. First off, it’s a Dubstep track. It surprised me but what shocked me even more was that J. Cole actually pulled off the Dubstep. Even better than Watch The Throne‘s ”Who Gon’ Stop Me” (Kanye’s chorus on that was horrendous to me… this one is pretty good actually). To me it sounded like the true crossover track for him (as a solely rap artist), moreso than “Work Out” or even the last track on the album, because a “top 40″ song can only take a rapper like him so far, this can open him up to a whole new demographic of people and sounds like something kids will listen to on HypeM. Speaking of Kanye, the beat starts sounding like an 808s throwaway towards the end. Ib, Cole’s manager, even told a group of us he had a hunch Jay would wanna get on this song.

“Cole World”: The album’s title track has a hard beat, also 808s if I remember correctly (these two tracks weren’t back-to-back at the listening but might have been switched later on due to their beats). Cole ends off the song by displaying the competitive climate of the rap game and where he stands with other rappers (none by name, obviously). Interesting either way.

“In The Morning”: Listen to it here.

“Lost Ones”: This track is too similar to “Lights Please” for me but you can make up your own mind because it leaked a while ago.

“Nobody’s Perfect” ft. Missy Elliot: J. Cole crafted a cool, almost Timbaland-style beat with a guitar sample and a nice intro which will undoubtedly be a favorite off the album. Missy appears on the hook (and kills it). J. Cole said he wrote the chorus (and a tentative bridge) for her and they sent it back and forth after she became familiar with him through his usage of her song “Best Friend” on his last mixtape. There’s also a reference to an Aaliyah track title on the song’s lyrics which I thought was a nice addition.

“Never Told” (Prod. by No I.D.): Unrelated to these songs, No I.D. might secretly be the best producer in rap these days. Plus J. Cole definitely gets off on other people’s beats (and on features) better than on his own, no doubt about that. (Same way he gave Kendrick one of his best beats ever.) However this beat starts unraveling after the first verse, and almost sounds like it samples “In The Morning” by the end of it.

“Rise & Shine”: Right off the bat, the beat features the signature J. Cole style of drums/production that he’s most notably known for and it’s a true J. Cole track in every way: referencing an old Roc-A-Fella song on the intro, raps about the grind/come-up, takes little shots at his rapping peers… but all-in-all it’s really just a motivational song (explains the title). There’s also a few lines about girls who shat on him, another staple of his music. It’s definitely layered with a few quotables (we were asked not to directly quote anything). First verse had no chorus following it, but afterwards the song features him singing on it. It was also a bit after that point that I realized J. Cole made an “all raps” album. He even dumbed his **** down for a second and borrowed a “Nicki Minaj” flow for a few bars on there. Later on in the song there’s a sample that comes on that’s pretty hard. This and the intro were the best songs I had heard up until that point in the listening session (the sequencing was different at the time).

“God’s Gift”: Originally the song J. Cole wanted Jay-Z to appear on. It had two verses and an empty slot at the end. I thought this was a good track for Jay to get on, even though J. Cole didn’t sound too optimistic at the moment (and rightfully so.) The background drums of this beat also sound like what I was referring to with “Rise & Shine”.

“Break Down”: From what I remember, this was (also) a “multi-layered” J. Cole beat with a nice build-up. Each verse revolves around one subject matter, the first one being about his father leaving him and the second one being either his (or someone else’s) mother’s substance abuse. Although he’s not considered rap’s savior, you can tell years of rap ****ery led to this album and all of these song concepts. This track definitely didn’t have a chorus when I heard it, but the beat carried the track well.

“Cheer Up”: This is my least favorite track on the album because it’s obvious it was made to get radio play. It was produced by Danjahandz, co-produced by Cole.

Bonus track:

“Nothing Lasts Forever”: Features a female vocalist that they came across online. Great chorus.

Note: there was also another skit with his first DJ Green Lantern interview (also featured on The Warm Up) that wasn’t mastered. Cole was explaining to Green how he found out Jay-Z wanted to do the deal and got pulled over/had to spend the night behind bars.

My experience with Cole projects have been like this: with The Warm Up, I heard two songs that I liked and didn’t need to listen to the rest. Later on I received a physical copy, played it all the way through and loved it. With Friday Night Lights, there was too much hype and twitter frenzy surrounding the release, so I barely listened to it when it dropped. When I revisited it three weeks later, I found what was 3-4 (album) quality tracks which he admitted were supposed to make Cole World. With the album, I liked every track on there, but I obviously have to sit with it longer than just one play considering the lyrically-inclined nature of the project.

The balance of strong messages on there mixed with the few pop attempts he makes are reminiscent of Tupac’s body of work, who J. Cole often refers to as his favorite artist, although he did mention during the session that he went back and based himself on other classic albums when thinking of what kind of songs he wanted to have on his first album: Kanye’s The College Dropout, The Blueprint and even Drake’s first album.

With that said, people who liked his mixtapes (The Warm Up & Friday Night Lights) will be pleased with this project. It’s pretty much like his mixtapes except with better production, strong song concepts and all the components that are usually missing on mixtapes (singles, outside production, big features, etc.).

There’s been a lot of pressure on J. Cole in the two and a half years that he’s been signed to Roc Nation, but he said after his first album he’s ready to drop the second one right away. Cole World comes out in just under a month but this is still just the beginning for Cole.
 
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the album is gonna be great no doubt....cats that were hopin for duke to fail are gonna be mad as hell tho smh
 
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lamontbdc;3216903 said:
You actually read some shit on a message board and it's not true? can't imagine that. Like wale said too many of us are trying to be A & R's. That niggas sales don't effect my life in any way. the music should be dope and that's what matters. I don't see any of these new cats selling much. They kinda bringing on themselves though when they throw out the word classic.

and Hov is the CEO of Roc Nation they got a shit load of other employees that handle j cole hands on on a daily basis. That's not really jay's job per se. cole will be find he doesn't need jay to hold his hand

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