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Soon as the Knicks above 500 me and @"iron man1" gonna fill a few pages talking about role players in such detail that no one is gonna be able to really follow the conversation unless they watch every Knick game.
 
But if they believe he will get even 17+ and they can land a pick and a productive player...I’m not going to cry about it, I want to see what we can do with this team right here though
 
its....JOHN B;c-10071214 said:
BlackAX410;c-10071182 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10071062 said:
I don’t know why it’s so hard to comprehend why Brad values Smart

Brad gives him too long of a leash and I've felt that way for a while. Soon as rozier or Brown take a bad shot he'll sub them out immediately but he'll let smart miss layups and 4 missed three pointers and play him over 30 minutes. He's annoying as fuck to watch on offense if he isn't making plays out the post or pocket passes in the pick and roll. He's averaging more shot attempts then Tatum and that's unacceptable. Eventually we gotta stop talking about winning plays and see he's not worth investing long term bread.

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You wanna invest a 4 year contract to this guy? Don't give me the young excuse either a lot of guys from his draft class have turned the corner and he's still shooting the same percentages from the field as his rookie year. Jaylen and jayson both averaging over 15ppg refute that too, Marcus smart is garbage, if he turns the corner I'll retract my statement

First bolded is lies second bolded makes you sound casual foh, Jaylen and Jayson is irrelevant to Smart and his role on this team and his strengths as a player, no ones putting him on that level and you just threw the 20 million out there, they already tried to come to an agreement they want him back at what they think he’s worth but they aren’t going to break the bank for him or they would have already, if another team comes and snatches him for 20+ shame on them

I'm cool with him for $12 mil a year, 6th overall picks should average more then 9 points 4 rebounds and 4 assist on 35% from the field and 29 from 3. He also lead us in turnovers coming off the bench last year, I'm casual because I want a guy to play effectively on offense? Really? Too many moments of hero ball from him turned me off to him if he played to his strengths and didn't chuck so many I'll advised shots there wouldn't be an issue, u feel like I'm reaching how?
 
BlackAX410;c-10071281 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10071214 said:
BlackAX410;c-10071182 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10071062 said:
I don’t know why it’s so hard to comprehend why Brad values Smart

Brad gives him too long of a leash and I've felt that way for a while. Soon as rozier or Brown take a bad shot he'll sub them out immediately but he'll let smart miss layups and 4 missed three pointers and play him over 30 minutes. He's annoying as fuck to watch on offense if he isn't making plays out the post or pocket passes in the pick and roll. He's averaging more shot attempts then Tatum and that's unacceptable. Eventually we gotta stop talking about winning plays and see he's not worth investing long term bread.

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You wanna invest a 4 year contract to this guy? Don't give me the young excuse either a lot of guys from his draft class have turned the corner and he's still shooting the same percentages from the field as his rookie year. Jaylen and jayson both averaging over 15ppg refute that too, Marcus smart is garbage, if he turns the corner I'll retract my statement

First bolded is lies second bolded makes you sound casual foh, Jaylen and Jayson is irrelevant to Smart and his role on this team and his strengths as a player, no ones putting him on that level and you just threw the 20 million out there, they already tried to come to an agreement they want him back at what they think he’s worth but they aren’t going to break the bank for him or they would have already, if another team comes and snatches him for 20+ shame on them

I'm cool with him for $12 mil a year, 6th overall picks should average more then 9 points 4 rebounds and 4 assist on 35% from the field and 29 from 3. He also lead us in turnovers coming off the bench last year, I'm casual because I want a guy to play effectively on offense? Really? Too many moments of hero ball from him turned me off to him if he played to his strengths and didn't chuck so many I'll advised shots there wouldn't be an issue, u feel like I'm reaching how?

You’re not casual you sound casual when you say Marcus Smart is garbage, saying you wish he didn’t shoot as many three’s is a fair statement I can’t sit here and say I love him shooting so much, but there’s players who shoot 38-40% and that’s all they do is shoot they don’t defend nearly as good as Smart they can’t switch off on multiple positions like Smart, they don’t sacrifice their body or play with any type of grit or make big plays in big moments like Smart and they do anything else offensively besides shoot yet they are overpaid and don’t catch nearly the same amount flack Smart gets, you can’t always point at a players stats to determine how valuable they are, I swear you make me do this every year
 
its....JOHN B;c-10071366 said:
BlackAX410;c-10071281 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10071214 said:
BlackAX410;c-10071182 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10071062 said:
I don’t know why it’s so hard to comprehend why Brad values Smart

Brad gives him too long of a leash and I've felt that way for a while. Soon as rozier or Brown take a bad shot he'll sub them out immediately but he'll let smart miss layups and 4 missed three pointers and play him over 30 minutes. He's annoying as fuck to watch on offense if he isn't making plays out the post or pocket passes in the pick and roll. He's averaging more shot attempts then Tatum and that's unacceptable. Eventually we gotta stop talking about winning plays and see he's not worth investing long term bread.

5g7waxbwfj8c.png


You wanna invest a 4 year contract to this guy? Don't give me the young excuse either a lot of guys from his draft class have turned the corner and he's still shooting the same percentages from the field as his rookie year. Jaylen and jayson both averaging over 15ppg refute that too, Marcus smart is garbage, if he turns the corner I'll retract my statement

First bolded is lies second bolded makes you sound casual foh, Jaylen and Jayson is irrelevant to Smart and his role on this team and his strengths as a player, no ones putting him on that level and you just threw the 20 million out there, they already tried to come to an agreement they want him back at what they think he’s worth but they aren’t going to break the bank for him or they would have already, if another team comes and snatches him for 20+ shame on them

I'm cool with him for $12 mil a year, 6th overall picks should average more then 9 points 4 rebounds and 4 assist on 35% from the field and 29 from 3. He also lead us in turnovers coming off the bench last year, I'm casual because I want a guy to play effectively on offense? Really? Too many moments of hero ball from him turned me off to him if he played to his strengths and didn't chuck so many I'll advised shots there wouldn't be an issue, u feel like I'm reaching how?

You’re not casual you sound casual when you say Marcus Smart is garbage, saying you wish he didn’t shoot as many three’s is a fair statement I can’t sit here and say I love him shooting so much, but there’s players who shoot 38-40% and that’s all they do is shoot they don’t defend nearly as good as Smart they can’t switch off on multiple positions like Smart, they don’t sacrifice their body or play with any type of grit or make big plays in big moments like Smart and they do anything else offensively besides shoot yet they are overpaid and don’t catch nearly the same amount flack Smart gets, you can’t always point at a players stats to determine how valuable they are, I swear you make me do this every year

I was critical of horford last year because he was terrible rebounding and disappeared when he needed his scoring. Don't make it seem like I attack our players for no reason. Smart's perimeter defense slipped last year which he admitted in the weight loss articles him and jae ate most of that 70 piece from Booker, I'm not pulling shit out of thin air. His defensive prowess doesn't override his atrocious offensive play. Every time kyrie set down the spurs cut into the lead cuz smart is trash as a point guard. If it ain't pick and roll he can't create cuz he doesn't have the quickness or explosion to blow by his man, which leads to off balanced shot attempts. Year 4 and you're shooting 33% from the field he's not irreplaceable and he's so overrated
 
Nah Son;c-10071300 said:
man I usually read through every single post in here but

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Ima let u cook for now but if y'all miss the playoffs this year after 5 years of trusting the process I'm unloading the clip, Sixers fans hop in my mentions on Twitter everyday if y'all don't show and prove it's gonna get ugly in hrre
 
ghost!;c-10071029 said:
I'm about ready to ship Smart the fuck out of boston now....give Rozier his minutes.

IDK he's been kinda OK lately he still does dumb shit but something in me thinks we're gonna need him down the stretch
 
Avery Bradley too, I know how you operate by now my dude if we lose a game and everyone plays like trash it will still be all Smart’s fault, he’s not perfect and he’s not a star but I’d much rather have him than not have him, you think he’s overrated I think he’s underrated we’ll leave it at that
 
wizedidit;c-10071393 said:
ghost!;c-10071029 said:
I'm about ready to ship Smart the fuck out of boston now....give Rozier his minutes.

IDK he's been kinda OK lately he still does dumb shit but something in me thinks we're gonna need him down the stretch

Thats the thing..its not tatnum, its not brown..not even the other role players..its YOUR ASS..the newly appointed Cs vet doing the dumb shit, still...
 
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AZTG;c-10071245 said:
Soon as the Knicks above 500 me and @"iron man1" gonna fill a few pages talking about role players in such detail that no one is gonna be able to really follow the conversation unless they watch every Knick game.

Houston up next so this thread may avoid a potential Knickstape floodwarning. Phoenix after that so until then I'll be

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its....JOHN B;c-10071415 said:
Avery Bradley too, I know how you operate by now my dude if we lose a game and everyone plays like trash it will still be all Smart’s fault, he’s not perfect and he’s not a star but I’d much rather have him than not have him, you think he’s overrated I think he’s underrated we’ll leave it at that

Yeah we're not gonna agree on smart. Only reason I didn't like Avery at the time was he averaged 14 shots to average 14 points he was a chucker when we 1st started rebuilding. "Stop shooting Avery" came from him being inefficient and not doing anything outside of defense and bad shots. When he improved his range and started rebounding better I stopped the criticism. I feel all 3 of my criticisms are justified when guys improve their play I'll admit I was wrong I never run away and hide from my statements or predictions As long as your mans shoots 33% from the field I'm not changing my opinion
 
DSJ sucked last night

he had the i dont give a fuck vibe

carlisle yanked him 3 minutes into the game

he was put back in around the 7 minute mark in the 2nd

decided to get dogged on defense and chuck up a 3

got pulled 2 minutes later and sat until 24 seconds left (was a little fuck you too from carlisle)

same thing in the 3rd

got pulled 3 minutes in and returned to start the 4th

only played about 2 minutes

got put back in with about 5 minutes to go and only played about a minute
 
6 games in and niggaz is full-time statisticians smh

Nobody gives a fuck about you holding teams under 100, you getting swept by the Cavs

As long as Bostons best player off the bench is Marcus Smart, I'll Sleep well at night.
 
ckfree;c-10071548 said:
DSJ sucked last night

he had the i dont give a fuck vibe

carlisle yanked him 3 minutes into the game

he was put back in around the 7 minute mark in the 2nd

decided to get dogged on defense and chuck up a 3

got pulled 2 minutes later and sat until 24 seconds left (was a little fuck you too from carlisle)

same thing in the 3rd

got pulled 3 minutes in and returned to start the 4th

only played about 2 minutes

got put back in with about 5 minutes to go and only played about a minute

Carlisle aint for that bullshit
 

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