SunflowaSeeds
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Yeaaah looks to be a rough year for SIU, they definitely seem to be a bottom of the barrel MVC team.
SunflowaSeeds;5056068 said:
Can't be any worse than last year, SIU finished 8-23....smh
Only way to go is up at this point...But at least this year we actually have a good number of players coming back, for the past couple of years there was always someone transferring out. I'd be watching highlights and they'd be playing good at other schools smh...
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af.r.i.c.a.
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Gotta keep my eye on these prospects cuz theres about a 25% chance ORL ends up with the first pick in the draft.
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KU Beezy;5057553 said:We never rebuild
We just reload
Rock chalk
I bet my AVI that yall don't win the Big 12 this year.
Baylor Gang >>>
SunflowaSeeds
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Lol they lose T-Rob and lose Tyshawn Taylor... and they still are the Big 12 favorites.
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2012 Preseason Top 50 point guards
1. Isaiah Canaan, Murray State
Is he a point or a two-guard? We're not quite sure, but he's just one heck of a guard. He can really shoot the ball, he makes shots with the game on the line -- and he leads his team to victories. That's enough for us to have him atop this list.
2. Phil Pressey, Missouri
He's the straw that stirs the drink, the engine that makes Mizzou go. He did it last year and he'll do it again this season with a different cast in Columbia. Pressey is the consummate point guard.
3. Trey Burke, Michigan
Burke wisely returned to school because he could've easily slipped into the second round of the NBA Draft. That wouldn't have been good. But leading Michigan to a possible Final Four this season will be really, really good.
4. Aaron Craft, Ohio State
He may not score the ball like some others on this list, but he's the best perimeter defender among this group, he leads, competes every possession and also makes his teammates better.
5. Marcus Smart, Oklahoma State
Is he a natural point guard? Probably not, but Smart is a born winner, is willing to do anything to help his team win, and is a top-notch leader. Sounds enough like a point guard to qualify.
6. Kyle Anderson, UCLA
He's not a natural point guard, but he's a phenomenal talent. If Ben Howland figures out how to use him, watch out.
7. Pierre Jackson, Baylor
Jackson had a mostly smooth transition from junior college to the Big 12. He and Isaiah Austin make a nice inside-outside -- or maybe outside-outside, depending on the possession -- combo.
8. Matthew Dellavedova, Saint Mary's
Not blessed with incredible athleticism, Delly is a master at his craft -- which is using angles and ball-screens. He shoots it well, passes it and has been the primary reason why the Gaels ended Gonzaga's streak and won the WCC a year ago.
9. Peyton Siva, Louisville
Siva has never established himself as a star but he has moments when he looks like one. If he looks like one this season consistently, Rick Pitino might get another national title.
10. Lorenzo Brown, N.C. State
Brown is a fantastic playmaker with the ball in his hands. He knows how to beat his man off the dribble in order to get into the lane. Once there, he can finish or dump off to a teammate for an easy bucket.
11. Mark Lyons, Arizona
"Cheeks", as he is called, is a talented scoring guard who has played off the ball for his college career. Lyons spent the first four years (he sat out as a freshman) at Xavier, but the key will be how he adjusts in Tucson to running the team.
12. Ray McCallum Jr. , Detroit
Little Ray chose to play for his dad at Detroit over the big boys (i.e. Arizona and UCLA) and while he hasn't received the national attention, he's thriving in the Horizon. Terrific command of the game and blends the ability to score, distribute and lead.
13. Michael Carter-Williams, Syracuse
He's still somewhat of an unknown to the general college hoops fan, but MCW is long, talented and can both score and distribute. The NBA scouts love him for his versatility and length.
14. Elijah Johnson, Kansas
KU fans will tell you this is too low for Johnson. I admit, they might be right.
15. Tim Frazier, Penn State
There is a case to be made he should be top-10 on this list, because his production the past two years on a nondescript Penn State squad has been fantastic. Don't be shocked if he earns All-American Third Team or honorable mention come March.
16. Myck Kabongo, Texas
Struggled out of the gates last season in Austin, but has terrific speed and leadership qualities. Now it's his team with J'Covan Brown gone, and that should make it easier for the talented Canadian.
17. Shabazz Napier, UConn
He had great games -- and brutal ones. Napier can really shoot the ball from deep, but needs to learn how to consistently get his teammates easy shots -- and also become a quality leader. Also capable of being a terrific perimeter defender.
18. Vincent Council, Providence
Ultra-productive at his position, Council has a chance to rank among the Big East's leaders in both points and assists. Throw in the fact he barely ever comes off the court, and he deserves more attention nationally.
19. Ryan Harrow, Kentucky
He's not Derrick Rose or Tyreke Evans or John Wall or Brandon Knight, and I don't even think he's Marquis Teague. But Harrow is still good enough to help UK repeat.
20. Rotnei Clarke, Butler
There's no better shooter in the country. No one. Clarke proved that in his first three seasons at Arkansas, but now he'll make the transition to playing the point for Brad Stevens in his one season at Butler. Clarke is also healthy for the first time in years.
21. Joe Jackson, Memphis
The former McDonald's All-American has struggled with consistency, but there are moments -- most notably in the past two C-USA tournaments -- when he reminds everyone of his potential.
22. Anthony Marshall, UNLV
He won't put up huge offensive numbers, especially with all the talent in Vegas, but Marshall can score when needed. He averaged 12.2 points as a junior last season, locks down on the defensive end, runs the team and rebounds the ball well for his position.
23. Nate Wolters, South Dakota State
Will probably do more for his team than any guard on this list. Is more than just a point guard, even if that's his classified position. Has potential to be a March mini-star if SDSU reaches the Big Bracket.
24. D.J. Cooper , Ohio
He's undersized but not under-skilled. Cooper is one of the best pure 1s in the game, and with him returning for his senior season, Ohio has a chance to get back to the NCAA tournament despite losing coach John Groce to Illinois.
25. Chaz Williams, UMass
It's easy to love watching the diminutive guard get up and down the court. Williams knows how to make plays at both ends of the floor, and is the perfect player to jump-start Massachusetts' up-tempo system.
1. Isaiah Canaan, Murray State
Is he a point or a two-guard? We're not quite sure, but he's just one heck of a guard. He can really shoot the ball, he makes shots with the game on the line -- and he leads his team to victories. That's enough for us to have him atop this list.
2. Phil Pressey, Missouri
He's the straw that stirs the drink, the engine that makes Mizzou go. He did it last year and he'll do it again this season with a different cast in Columbia. Pressey is the consummate point guard.
3. Trey Burke, Michigan
Burke wisely returned to school because he could've easily slipped into the second round of the NBA Draft. That wouldn't have been good. But leading Michigan to a possible Final Four this season will be really, really good.
4. Aaron Craft, Ohio State
He may not score the ball like some others on this list, but he's the best perimeter defender among this group, he leads, competes every possession and also makes his teammates better.
5. Marcus Smart, Oklahoma State
Is he a natural point guard? Probably not, but Smart is a born winner, is willing to do anything to help his team win, and is a top-notch leader. Sounds enough like a point guard to qualify.
6. Kyle Anderson, UCLA
He's not a natural point guard, but he's a phenomenal talent. If Ben Howland figures out how to use him, watch out.
7. Pierre Jackson, Baylor
Jackson had a mostly smooth transition from junior college to the Big 12. He and Isaiah Austin make a nice inside-outside -- or maybe outside-outside, depending on the possession -- combo.
8. Matthew Dellavedova, Saint Mary's
Not blessed with incredible athleticism, Delly is a master at his craft -- which is using angles and ball-screens. He shoots it well, passes it and has been the primary reason why the Gaels ended Gonzaga's streak and won the WCC a year ago.
9. Peyton Siva, Louisville
Siva has never established himself as a star but he has moments when he looks like one. If he looks like one this season consistently, Rick Pitino might get another national title.
10. Lorenzo Brown, N.C. State
Brown is a fantastic playmaker with the ball in his hands. He knows how to beat his man off the dribble in order to get into the lane. Once there, he can finish or dump off to a teammate for an easy bucket.
11. Mark Lyons, Arizona
"Cheeks", as he is called, is a talented scoring guard who has played off the ball for his college career. Lyons spent the first four years (he sat out as a freshman) at Xavier, but the key will be how he adjusts in Tucson to running the team.
12. Ray McCallum Jr. , Detroit
Little Ray chose to play for his dad at Detroit over the big boys (i.e. Arizona and UCLA) and while he hasn't received the national attention, he's thriving in the Horizon. Terrific command of the game and blends the ability to score, distribute and lead.
13. Michael Carter-Williams, Syracuse
He's still somewhat of an unknown to the general college hoops fan, but MCW is long, talented and can both score and distribute. The NBA scouts love him for his versatility and length.
14. Elijah Johnson, Kansas
KU fans will tell you this is too low for Johnson. I admit, they might be right.
15. Tim Frazier, Penn State
There is a case to be made he should be top-10 on this list, because his production the past two years on a nondescript Penn State squad has been fantastic. Don't be shocked if he earns All-American Third Team or honorable mention come March.
16. Myck Kabongo, Texas
Struggled out of the gates last season in Austin, but has terrific speed and leadership qualities. Now it's his team with J'Covan Brown gone, and that should make it easier for the talented Canadian.
17. Shabazz Napier, UConn
He had great games -- and brutal ones. Napier can really shoot the ball from deep, but needs to learn how to consistently get his teammates easy shots -- and also become a quality leader. Also capable of being a terrific perimeter defender.
18. Vincent Council, Providence
Ultra-productive at his position, Council has a chance to rank among the Big East's leaders in both points and assists. Throw in the fact he barely ever comes off the court, and he deserves more attention nationally.
19. Ryan Harrow, Kentucky
He's not Derrick Rose or Tyreke Evans or John Wall or Brandon Knight, and I don't even think he's Marquis Teague. But Harrow is still good enough to help UK repeat.
20. Rotnei Clarke, Butler
There's no better shooter in the country. No one. Clarke proved that in his first three seasons at Arkansas, but now he'll make the transition to playing the point for Brad Stevens in his one season at Butler. Clarke is also healthy for the first time in years.
21. Joe Jackson, Memphis
The former McDonald's All-American has struggled with consistency, but there are moments -- most notably in the past two C-USA tournaments -- when he reminds everyone of his potential.
22. Anthony Marshall, UNLV
He won't put up huge offensive numbers, especially with all the talent in Vegas, but Marshall can score when needed. He averaged 12.2 points as a junior last season, locks down on the defensive end, runs the team and rebounds the ball well for his position.
23. Nate Wolters, South Dakota State
Will probably do more for his team than any guard on this list. Is more than just a point guard, even if that's his classified position. Has potential to be a March mini-star if SDSU reaches the Big Bracket.
24. D.J. Cooper , Ohio
He's undersized but not under-skilled. Cooper is one of the best pure 1s in the game, and with him returning for his senior season, Ohio has a chance to get back to the NCAA tournament despite losing coach John Groce to Illinois.
25. Chaz Williams, UMass
It's easy to love watching the diminutive guard get up and down the court. Williams knows how to make plays at both ends of the floor, and is the perfect player to jump-start Massachusetts' up-tempo system.
Elzo69Renaissance
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Jdilla26;5053883 said:
New coach, rebuilding year just signed Kendrick Nunn i think Xavier Nathan Rayes is coming on his official visit soon. We ll be a force in the Big 10 next year for sure
SunflowaSeeds
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Just downloaded the 2012-2013 Blue Ribbon College BBall Yearbook, which is the ULTIMATE pre-season cbball guide. So I will have plenty more information coming soon.
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BLUE RIBBON BREAKDOWN: Atlantic Coast Conference
Projected Order of Finish:
1) N.C. State
2) Duke
3) North Carolina
4) Miami
5) Florida State
6) Maryland
7) Virginia
8) Georgia Tech
9) Clemson
10) Boston College
11) Wake Forest
12) V-Tech
Player of the Year:
Michael Snaer (Florida St)
Newcomer of the Year:
Marcus Paige (North Carolina)
All Conference Team:
G- Lorenzo Brown (NC State)
G- Michael Snaer (Florida State)
C- Mason Plumlee (Duke)
F- CJ Lelslie (NC State)
F- Kenny Kadji (Miami)
Projected Order of Finish:
1) N.C. State
2) Duke
3) North Carolina
4) Miami
5) Florida State
6) Maryland
7) Virginia
8) Georgia Tech
9) Clemson
10) Boston College
11) Wake Forest
12) V-Tech
Player of the Year:
Michael Snaer (Florida St)
Newcomer of the Year:
Marcus Paige (North Carolina)
All Conference Team:
G- Lorenzo Brown (NC State)
G- Michael Snaer (Florida State)
C- Mason Plumlee (Duke)
F- CJ Lelslie (NC State)
F- Kenny Kadji (Miami)
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BLUE RIBBON BREAKDOWN: Big East Conference
Projected Order of Finish:
1) Louisville
2) Syracuse
3) Notre Dame
4) Georgetown
5) Marquette
6) Cincinnati
7) USF
8) Connecticut
9) Pittsburgh
10) Providence
11) Rutgers
12) St Johns
13) Villanova
14) Seton Hall
15) DePaul
Player of the Year:
Payton Siva (Louisville)
Newcomer of the Year:
Ricardo Ledo (Providence)
All Conference Team:
G- Payton Siva (Louisville)
G- Vincent Council (Providence)
C- Jack Cooley (Notre Dame)
F- Sean Kilpatrick (Cincinnati)
F- Otto Porter (Georgetown)
Projected Order of Finish:
1) Louisville
2) Syracuse
3) Notre Dame
4) Georgetown
5) Marquette
6) Cincinnati
7) USF
8) Connecticut
9) Pittsburgh
10) Providence
11) Rutgers
12) St Johns
13) Villanova
14) Seton Hall
15) DePaul
Player of the Year:
Payton Siva (Louisville)
Newcomer of the Year:
Ricardo Ledo (Providence)
All Conference Team:
G- Payton Siva (Louisville)
G- Vincent Council (Providence)
C- Jack Cooley (Notre Dame)
F- Sean Kilpatrick (Cincinnati)
F- Otto Porter (Georgetown)
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BLUE RIBBON BREAKDOWN: Big 12 Conference
Projected Order of Finish:
1) Kansas
2) Baylor
3) Texas
4) Kansas State
5) Oklahoma State
6) West Virginia
7) Oklahoma
8) Iowa State
9) TCU
10) Texas Tech
Player of the Year:
Pierre Jackson (Baylor)
Newcomer of the Year:
Marcus Smart (Oklahoma State)
All Conference Team:
F- Rodney McGruder (Kansas St)
F- LeBryan Nash (Oklahoma St)
C- Jeff Withey (Kansas)
G- Pierre Jackson (Baylor)
G- Elijah Johnson (Kansas)
Projected Order of Finish:
1) Kansas
2) Baylor
3) Texas
4) Kansas State
5) Oklahoma State
6) West Virginia
7) Oklahoma
8) Iowa State
9) TCU
10) Texas Tech
Player of the Year:
Pierre Jackson (Baylor)
Newcomer of the Year:
Marcus Smart (Oklahoma State)
All Conference Team:
F- Rodney McGruder (Kansas St)
F- LeBryan Nash (Oklahoma St)
C- Jeff Withey (Kansas)
G- Pierre Jackson (Baylor)
G- Elijah Johnson (Kansas)
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BLUE RIBBON BREAKDOWN: Big 10 Conference
Projected Order of Finish:
1) Indiana
2) Michigan
3) Michigan St
4) Ohio St
5) Wisconsin
6) Minnesota
7) Northwestern
8) Iowa
9) Purdue
10) Illinois
11) Penn St
12) Nebraska
Player of the Year:
Cody Zeller (Indiana)
Newcomer of the Year:
Gary Harris (Michigan St)
All Conference Team:
G- Trey Burke (Michigan)
G- Tim Frazier (Penn St)
G- Aaron Craft (Ohio St)
C- Cody Zeller (Indiana)
F- Deshaun Thomas (Ohio St)
Projected Order of Finish:
1) Indiana
2) Michigan
3) Michigan St
4) Ohio St
5) Wisconsin
6) Minnesota
7) Northwestern
8) Iowa
9) Purdue
10) Illinois
11) Penn St
12) Nebraska
Player of the Year:
Cody Zeller (Indiana)
Newcomer of the Year:
Gary Harris (Michigan St)
All Conference Team:
G- Trey Burke (Michigan)
G- Tim Frazier (Penn St)
G- Aaron Craft (Ohio St)
C- Cody Zeller (Indiana)
F- Deshaun Thomas (Ohio St)
SunflowaSeeds;5062623 said:
When was the last time NC State was predicted to win the ACC? That shit was probably before I was born. And I see they got Kenny Kadji on the All Conference team. His awkward ass played for my squad, the gators. Guess he matured and stepped his game up.
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SunflowaSeeds;5064055 said:
pitt will not be 9th.. you can bet that
SunflowaSeeds
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I think Pitt will be better than 9th, so if that's what you're saying then I agree.
A$AP_A$TON
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Check the avi nigs.
