Official 2011-2012 College Basketball Thread

[SunflowaSeeds]

So I just got this College Bball magazine today and it predicts how the teams will place in each conference at the end of the year. I shall now post what they think (keep in mind I don't necessarily agree with all of it). I'll just do the important conferences:

Stock Report :
Green = Up
Red = Down
Black =Steady

ACC
1) North Carolina
2) Duke
3) Florida St
4) Viginia Tech
5) Miami
6) Clemson
7) Virginia
8) NC State
9) Maryland
10) Georgia Tech
11) Wake Forest
12) Boston College

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

Stock Report :
Green = Up
Red = Down
Black =Steady

Big East
1) Uconn
2) Syracuse
3) Pittsburgh
4) Louisville
5) Cincinatti
6) Marquette
7) West Virginia
8) Notre Dame
9) Georgetown
10) Villanova
11) St Johns
12) Rutgers
13) DePaul
14) Seton Hall
15) USF
16) Providence

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

Stock Report :
Green = Up
Red = Down
Black =Steady

Big 10
1) Ohio St
2) Wisconsin
3) Michigan
4) Purdue
5) Michigan St
6) Indiana
7) Northwestern
8) Minnesota
9) Illinois
10) Iowa
11) Nebraska
12) Penn St

 

[bigev240]

The Big East is about right but I could see Pitt falling out of the top 5.

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

Stock Report :

Green = Up

Red = Down

Black =Steady

Big 12

1) Baylor

2) Kansas

3) Missouri

4) Texas A&M

5) Oklahoma St

6) Texas

7) Kansas St

8) Iowa St

9) Oklahoma

10) Texas Tech

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

Stock Report :

Green = Up

Red = Down

Black =Steady

Pac 12

1) Arizona

2) UCLA

3) California

4) Washington

5) Oregon

6) Stanford

7) Oregon St

8) USC

9) Arizona St

10) Washington St

11) Colorado

12) Utah

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

Stock Report :

Green = Up

Red = Down

Black =Steady

SEC

1) Kentucky

2) Florida

3) Vanderbilt

4) Alabama

5) Miss St

6) Ole Miss

7) Arkansas

8) LSU

9) Georgia

10) Tennessee

11) Auburn

12) South Carolina

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

Top 30 Wing Men

1. Harrison Barnes (So., F, North Carolina)
If you find an argument with Barnes at No. 1 here, then you're either desperate for attention or can see into the future and know of a world where Barnes' ability has inexplicably dropped out of orbit. The UNC 3/2 hybrid has so many polished facets to his game, but it's his toughness that has recently come on and taken him to the elite level.

2. John Jenkins (junior G, Vanderbilt)
The Commodores will need reliable scoring. Thankfully, Jenkins led the SEC in scoring and also in 3-pointers per game (3.1).

3. Austin Rivers (Fr., G, Duke)
Rivers is a true college-level 2, and I'm interested to see how much control and freedom Mike Krzyzewski gives to him in the first month of the season. A very fun player to watch who isn't afraid of taking the big shot.

4. Jeremy Lamb (So., F, Connecticut)
Lamb really emerged in mid-February last season, when he became nearly as much of a threat to opponents as Kemba Walker. Lamb's limbs are as long as a neighborhood telephone line. He has good bounce to pair with a 15-foot shot that teams will respect more and more.

5. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (Fr., F, Kentucky)
I'm eager to see him play, basing this high ranking off reports from the past two years fawning over his ability. Tremendous athlete with matching drive and a fatigue bar that doesn't deplete. Anthony Davis (who will be highly ranked on the top 30 bigs list) is considered the better player, but Gilchrist could be the one that gets UK to the Final Four.

6. William Buford (Sr., G, Ohio State)
Buford is the quiet killer for the Buckeyes. He deserves more recognition for his ability because he's a marked man on every scouting report. The senior will flawlessly replace David Lighty this year.

7. Marcus Denmon (Sr., G, Missouri)
Calling it right now: Marcus Denmon will be a second-team All-American. With Laurence Bowers going down for the Tigers, Denmon's going to be relied upon for even more scoring. I also love: He's not a point, yet had the most secure handle in the nation last season, only giving it away on 8.2 percent of his trips down the floor.

8. Elias Harris (Jr., F, Gonzaga)
Quintessential Gonzaga wing. Get the feeling Mark Few will ask him to score better than 17 a game this season. The future NBA Draft pick is up for it.

9. Kris Joseph (Sr., F, Syracuse)
The 6-foot-7 Joseph would vault into the top five if he became a definitive go-to scorer for Syracuse this year. Many believe the Orange need him to be that for the team to win the Big East and get to the Final Four.

10. Terrence Ross (So., F, Washington)
This is our sleeper selection. You think Washington's going to be down and out without Isaiah Thomas, Justin Holliday, Venoy Overton and Matthew Bryan-Amaning? No. Ross is going to be a first-team guy in the Pac-12.

11. Brad Beal (Fr., G, Florida)
Jeff Goodman says he's going to remind a lot of people of Ray Allen. I say slam the breaks on that, but I'm eager to see how quickly -- if it happens -- the other three Florida guards acquiesce to Beal's ability, which is beyond the skills of Mike Rosario, Kenny Boynton and Erving Walker.

12. Robbie Hummel (Sr., F, Purdue)
This is evidence of what injuries can do to a player's value. Hummel's probably going to will Purdue to two or three more wins than it should have, but he's no longer a top-10 wing. (I would love to be wrong, for the record.)

13. LeBryan Nash (Fr., F, Oklahoma State)
Absolutely: Oklahoma State will be as exciting as it has been in recent memory thanks to Nash's easy-to-watch style. Here's a couple of videos that get my point across.

14. Will Barton (So., F, Memphis)
Barton gets it so, so much more now than he did a year ago. There's more perspective to his game which, by the way, is a perfect fit for Josh Pastner's style in Memphis.

15. Jeffery Taylor (Sr., F, Vanderbilt)
He's dangerous because he has shown the dedication to taking his game to the next level. He used to be wiry and raw; now he's a full-bodied 225 pounds and honing his skills with each game.

16. Tim Abromaitis (Sr., F, Notre Dame)
17. Orlando Johnson (Sr., G, UC-Santa Barbara)
18. Adonis Thomas (Fr., F, Memphis)
19. Kyle Weems (Sr., F, Missouri State)
20. Quincy Miller (Fr., F, Baylor)
21. Jorge Gutierrez (Sr., G, California)
22. Jabari Brown (Fr., G, Oregon)
23. Jason Clark (Sr., G, Georgetown)
24. Khris Middleton (Jr., F, Texas A&M)
25. Darius Johnson-Odom (Sr., G, Marquette)
26. DeAndre Kane (Jr., G, Marshall)
27. Kyle Casey (Sr., F, Harvard)
28. John Shurna (Sr., F, Northwestern)
29. Arsalan Kazemi (Jr., F, Rice)
30. Rodney McGruder (Jr., G, Kansas State)

^John Shurna = #28?!!?
That's ridiculous.

 

[Datdude87]

Top 30 Wing Men

12. Robbie Hummel (Sr., F, Purdue)

This is evidence of what injuries can do to a player's value. Hummel's probably going to will Purdue to two or three more wins than it should have, but he's no longer a top-10 wing. (I would love to be wrong, for the record.)

wow, they gave robbie a lil more respect than i thought. 12 is pretty good considering he played his last game in feb 2010. however...otherwise he'd b top 5...and yes...for the statement in parenthesis...he'll b wrong by the end of the year.

 

[So ILL]

I don't know who half of these dudes in the Top 100 are......and is it good or bad that there are a couple of unproven Freshman ranking in the top ten already? Is college ball supposed to be weak this year?

Oh, and good to see two Missouri Valley players in the top half of the Top 100 Player Rankings.....too bad they're not playing for SIU.....smh

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

I think college ball is supposed to be up compared to last year at least.

 

[MillzOG]

smh @ the lebryan nash hate.....GOAT name and GOAT game

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

smh @ the lebryan nash hate.....GOAT name and GOAT game

Lol where is the hate bro?

 

[MillzOG]

Lol where is the hate bro?

ranked #13 wingmen bruh?? He should at least be top 8-10 b

 

[BlackAX410]

Welp due to the NBA lockout looks like i'ma have to pay attention to dis shit from wat I've seen of Austin Rivers he aint even all THAT got poor shot selection nd turnover prone but tht might change wit more experience. I heard coach K say that the star of Duek was Seth Curry nd it was his team till further notice so I think Rivers is a lor overrated

 

[MillzOG]

Welp due to the NBA lockout looks like i'ma have to pay attention to dis shit from wat I've seen of Austin Rivers he aint even all THAT got poor shot selection nd turnover prone but tht might change wit more experience. I heard coach K say that the star of Duek was Seth Curry nd it was his team till further notice so I think Rivers is a lor overrated

naaa naa naa, that nigga is a problem...but yea he definitely has to work on his shot selection but I think going to Duke will help that significantly, the turnovers though.....let's see how much that cuts down

 

[smittysmith]

Fully expect Barnes to carry us to the final four this year. Oh, as good as our roster look it aint seeing that '05 squad. Barnes the best player out of all 3 squads though.

 

[KeepOnPushing]

Up'n one more video of Tony Wroten Jr. , he seems to have back all his explosiveness and burst, notice in those previous videos how he's not as quick or fast like this one he suffered a injury then...

he played against John Wall and some other pros and college players in this league.....he's the one in the Green rockin the Box, Had Wall on them skates

[video=youtube;E9w8BOO7ZT4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9w8BOO7ZT4[/video]

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

Top 30 Big Men

1. Jared Sullinger (So., F, Ohio St.)
It couldn't be anyone else in the top spot. I don't need to wax poetic on Sullinger's game, because you know it well by now. My thing is, can you believe how good he is for a big, when he so clearly plays below the rim? He's like Barkley in a way. I wonder whether the weight loss will change his game. If it does, I'd imagine that's a good thing, even if he's giving up weight in the paint.

2. Perry Jones (So., F, Baylor)
On a national scale, Perry Jones doesn't have that much cache yet. Fans of the game and NBA scouts know all too well just how much potential he has, though. His decision to come back to Baylor, I thought, was among the most shocking in an offseason that saw plenty of lottery picks bypass the draft. (That decision's looking pretty good right about now.) I think Baylor wins the Big 12 and Jones puts up silly-good numbers.

3. Thomas Robinson (Jr., F, Kansas)
We're high on Thomas Robinson because he's as reliable a big man outside of Sullinger as you can ask for. He'll be the Big 12 Player of the Year if Kansas overachieves. Expecting T-Rob to will the Jayhawks to three or four more wins than they probably deserve. Classy guy -- the perfect player for this year's Kansas team.

4. Anthony Davis (Fr., F, Kentucky)
Has the ultimate combination of height, speed, athleticism. Everything. Carries a complete toolbox. I have no idea how Kentucky's frontcourt gets defended against this year, or how people attack it. Unfair that Calipari gets both Davis and Terrence Jones to work with.

5. John Henson (Jr., F, North Carolina)
Henson blocked more than 11 percent of opponents' shots last season, which is particularly impressive when you take into account just how terrified so many teams were to go inside against UNC. They'd much rather shoot long, get back on defense and avoid getting killed in the secondary break. What I'm saying is, when John Henson puts his hand in the air in Chapel Hill, you can see it from Washington, D.C.

6. Terrence Jones (So., F, Kentucky)
Jones had an amazing breakout month last November, then he plateaued a bit, and then he became John Calipari's favorite whipping boy. I'm guessing some newbie frosh will take over the tongue-lashing treatment this year. Jones, a lefty, needs to develop some serious to-the-right moves to become nearly unstoppable at the high-major level.

7. Tyler Zeller (Sr., F, North Carolina)
It's great to look back, think of Zeller as a freshman, then realize what he's become. Awesome ability all over the floor for Roy Williams' team, but Zeller's the kind of piece every coach wants. Big man with great hands, post moves, can run adeptly in a high-powered offense. He's also a tough son of a gun.

8. Trevor Mbakwe (Sr., F, Minnesota)
No one on this list is as undervalued -- except maybe Andrew Nicholson -- as Mbakwe. Part of that is because the Gophers don't get on national TV all that much. Mbakwe grabbed nearly 11 boards per game last year. He's easily the second best big man in the Big Ten.

9. Andre Drummond (Fr., C, Connecticut)
The only reason Drummond isn't higher -- and seeing as how many think he's already the No. 1 pick for the 2012 draft, having him ninth is pretty silly on our part -- is because he's got to prove it. Drummond took plays off at the prep level. He's also a great ball-handler for his size, but I'm thinking Jim Calhoun's going to anchor him seven feet and in. Will he become a supreme force on offense playing back-to-the-basket basketball?

10. Reeves Nelson (Jr., F, UCLA)
Nelson is one of the most reliable guys for field goals in the nation. He plants himself down there and bruises with the best of them. I'm not as high on him as Goodman and Parrish, but we have more egregious rankings in our database than Reeves Nelson as the 10th best big man in the country. The worst thing about his game is the Reeves Sleeve.

11. Draymond Green (Sr., F, Michigan St.)
Probably the most versatile player on our listed. If you wanted to call Green a wing, plenty wouldn't argue with you. Amazing passer and runs the floor deceptively well. I love his game because he feels like a throwback. If every major team had a player like Green, our sport would be tremendous to watch.

12. Patric Young (So., F, Florida)
There he is, there's the beast. The man-child. The reason Florida will be a ranked team all season long. It's going to be really fun to watch Young roll through teams while the Gators' four guards fight over shots. They'll miss a lot, and Young will do the dirty work on the boards. With Alex Tyus and Vernon Macklin gone, he owns the paint this year.

13. JaMychal Green (Sr., F, Alabama)
Blocked 8.2 percent of opponents' shots last season. Green is a monster around the iron, and he's also got a formidable post-up game. Guessing his draft stock, which is late first/early second right now, will move up to the teens by the end of the year.

14. Alex Oriakhi (Jr., F, Connecticut)
Very versatile and should have a breakout season, even on a stacked Huskies team. Oriakhi developed a jump shot in the offseason. Wonder if Jim Calhoun will let him use it every now and then. The UConn big man should create the best frontcourt duo in the nation with Drummond flanking him.

15. Josh Smith (So., C, UCLA)
Smith can be a top-five big man if he gets his weight under control and fully realizes his potential. Only Renardo Sidney (ranked below) is more frustrating when it comes to the work-ethic/talent-ceiling dichotomy. By the way, even with all this, he had the second best offensive-rebounding rate (19.2) in the nation last year.

The next 15
16. Tarik Black (So., F, Memphis)
17. Festus Ezeli (Sr., C, Vanderbilt)
18. Andrew Nicholson (Sr., F, St. Bonaventure)
19. Keith Wright (Sr., F, Harvard)
20. Michael Glover (Sr., F, Iona)
21. Drew Gordon (Sr., F, New Mexico)
22. Kevin Jones (Sr., F, West Virginia)
23. Doug McDermott (So., F, Creighton)
24. Brandon Davies (Jr., F, Brigham Young)
25. Robert Sacre (Sr., C, Gonzaga)
26. Mouphtaou Yarou (Jr., C, Villanova)
27. Javon McCrea (So., F, Buffalo)
28. Arnett Moultrie (Jr., F, Mississippi St.)
29. Renardo Sidney (Jr., F, Mississippi St.)
30. Yancy Gates (Sr., F, Cincinnati)

I think Yancy Gates and Robert Sacre should be higher.

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

So CBSsports is putting the West Cost Conference (Gonzaga/Saint Mary's) as the best mid-major conference I guess just because BYU will be in it this year? I don't think BYU is good enough to make them the #7 conference in the country... Thoughts?