OBJECTIVELY is Eminem Top 10 DOA?

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Lotta trash posts in this joint. Yall trippin...not even top 100?? 2 of the top 5 most selling hip hop albums of all time but not even top 100? Of course i dont care about sales...but thats WITH his talent.

Some of the newer dudes yall listed above him were influenced by him.

One of the best mainstream rappers who came up battling. No deep songs? Anyone listen to infinite? Mmlp? Eminem show? His content made him controversial. Cant say he has no substance. Im convinced u all dont know his catalog that well or just biased af.

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Go figure;c-9814938 said:
Lotta trash posts in this joint. Yall trippin...not even top 100?? 2 of the top 5 most selling hip hop albums of all time but not even top 100? Of course i dont care about sales...but thats WITH his talent.

Some of the newer dudes yall listed above him were influenced by him.

One of the best mainstream rappers who came up battling. No deep songs? Anyone listen to infinite? Mmlp? Eminem show? His content made him controversial. Cant say he has no substance. Im convinced u all dont know his catalog that well or just biased af.

Trash posts

Didn't get a chance to. I was too busy listening to the Racist Rap Hour by Bassmint productions.

But I digress, some of you negroes will fight to the end for massa. Even, objectively, dude has no timeless music even with his "lyrical miracle spiritual" style. I used to play his shit when I was a kid and when I became a man, I realized this nigga was trash. Dope fiend, gay orgies, always whining about his heart being broken, talked about fuckin his own mother, wanted to kill his baby's mother, battled Mariah Carey (smh, really nigga), outdated production, not much substance, no soul at all, oh and how can I forget the classic tracks Just Lose It and Fack. Man, fuck y'all coon clowns.
 
Stew;c-9814868 said:
za'kiss;c-9814843 said:
Stew;c-9814837 said:
That's a massive amount of words for somebody you don't even have in your top 100! Holy shit :joy:

I'm a fan of hip-hop and Eminem has managed to have a huge impact on the culture. His place in it is worth addressing. I usually avoid contributing a lot to this subject, but it's something that needs to be addressed, especially since true heads are accused of "bias" if they don't like him. Em fans try to hijack what counts as a "great MC" by elevating this dude. It's weak.

Word, so go ahead and drop them 100 rappers that are better so we can get a good laugh in.

I have Em in my top 10 but its very obvious that @"za'kiss" isnt being biased he gave legitimate reasons for why he doesnt consider em top 10 worthy and i respect it,

Not everyone is gonna think hes as dope as you do, im not sure why you are dismissing an opposing view as if an opinion is the same as a fact
 
L3NU;c-9815285 said:
Stew;c-9814868 said:
za'kiss;c-9814843 said:
Stew;c-9814837 said:
That's a massive amount of words for somebody you don't even have in your top 100! Holy shit :joy:

I'm a fan of hip-hop and Eminem has managed to have a huge impact on the culture. His place in it is worth addressing. I usually avoid contributing a lot to this subject, but it's something that needs to be addressed, especially since true heads are accused of "bias" if they don't like him. Em fans try to hijack what counts as a "great MC" by elevating this dude. It's weak.

Word, so go ahead and drop them 100 rappers that are better so we can get a good laugh in.

I have Em in my top 10 but its very obvious that @"za'kiss" isnt being biased he gave legitimate reasons for why he doesnt consider em top 10 worthy and i respect it,

Not everyone is gonna think hes as dope as you do, im not sure why you are dismissing an opposing view as if an opinion is the same as a fact

All I did was ask him to drop his 100 rappers better list, the fuck? How did u get anything else out of that?
 
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dwade206;c-9815279 said:
Go figure;c-9814938 said:
Lotta trash posts in this joint. Yall trippin...not even top 100?? 2 of the top 5 most selling hip hop albums of all time but not even top 100? Of course i dont care about sales...but thats WITH his talent.

Some of the newer dudes yall listed above him were influenced by him.

One of the best mainstream rappers who came up battling. No deep songs? Anyone listen to infinite? Mmlp? Eminem show? His content made him controversial. Cant say he has no substance. Im convinced u all dont know his catalog that well or just biased af.

Trash posts

Didn't get a chance to. I was too busy listening to the Racist Rap Hour by Bassmint productions.

But I digress, some of you negroes will fight to the end for massa. Even, objectively, dude has no timeless music even with his "lyrical miracle spiritual" style. I used to play his shit when I was a kid and when I became a man, I realized this nigga was trash. Dope fiend, gay orgies, always whining about his heart being broken, talked about fuckin his own mother, wanted to kill his baby's mother, battled Mariah Carey (smh, really nigga), outdated production, not much substance, no soul at all, oh and how can I forget the classic tracks Just Lose It and Fack. Man, fuck y'all coon clowns.

None of the shit u mentioned was in any of the albums i named including just lose it and fack except him being an addict.

Trash post
 
Go figure;c-9815390 said:
dwade206;c-9815279 said:
Go figure;c-9814938 said:
Lotta trash posts in this joint. Yall trippin...not even top 100?? 2 of the top 5 most selling hip hop albums of all time but not even top 100? Of course i dont care about sales...but thats WITH his talent.

Some of the newer dudes yall listed above him were influenced by him.

One of the best mainstream rappers who came up battling. No deep songs? Anyone listen to infinite? Mmlp? Eminem show? His content made him controversial. Cant say he has no substance. Im convinced u all dont know his catalog that well or just biased af.

Trash posts

Didn't get a chance to. I was too busy listening to the Racist Rap Hour by Bassmint productions.

But I digress, some of you negroes will fight to the end for massa. Even, objectively, dude has no timeless music even with his "lyrical miracle spiritual" style. I used to play his shit when I was a kid and when I became a man, I realized this nigga was trash. Dope fiend, gay orgies, always whining about his heart being broken, talked about fuckin his own mother, wanted to kill his baby's mother, battled Mariah Carey (smh, really nigga), outdated production, not much substance, no soul at all, oh and how can I forget the classic tracks Just Lose It and Fack. Man, fuck y'all coon clowns.

None of the shit u mentioned was in any of the albums i named including just lose it and fack except him being an addict.

Trash post

"Oh no you don't. I'sss gon fight fo massa til da end. He dies, I die. He sick, I'sss sick. He likes Vicodin and gay orgies, I'sss like em too, bee bopp ba doodle doo do."

Fuck outta here. Your boy is trash.
 
dwade206;c-9815416 said:
Go figure;c-9815390 said:
dwade206;c-9815279 said:
Go figure;c-9814938 said:
Lotta trash posts in this joint. Yall trippin...not even top 100?? 2 of the top 5 most selling hip hop albums of all time but not even top 100? Of course i dont care about sales...but thats WITH his talent.

Some of the newer dudes yall listed above him were influenced by him.

One of the best mainstream rappers who came up battling. No deep songs? Anyone listen to infinite? Mmlp? Eminem show? His content made him controversial. Cant say he has no substance. Im convinced u all dont know his catalog that well or just biased af.

Trash posts

Didn't get a chance to. I was too busy listening to the Racist Rap Hour by Bassmint productions.

But I digress, some of you negroes will fight to the end for massa. Even, objectively, dude has no timeless music even with his "lyrical miracle spiritual" style. I used to play his shit when I was a kid and when I became a man, I realized this nigga was trash. Dope fiend, gay orgies, always whining about his heart being broken, talked about fuckin his own mother, wanted to kill his baby's mother, battled Mariah Carey (smh, really nigga), outdated production, not much substance, no soul at all, oh and how can I forget the classic tracks Just Lose It and Fack. Man, fuck y'all coon clowns.

None of the shit u mentioned was in any of the albums i named including just lose it and fack except him being an addict.

Trash post

"Oh no you don't. I'sss gon fight fo massa til da end. He dies, I die. He sick, I'sss sick. He likes Vicodin and gay orgies, I'sss like em too, bee bopp ba doodle doo do."

Fuck outta here. Your boy is trash.

All your posts in here mention racism or coonism ur focusing on the racist tape not skill level which is fine but not objective.

The top 5 alive today fuck with Em so by ur logic theyre coons n if u listen to any of them u callin urself a coon. Have at it bro
 
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Go figure;c-9815462 said:
dwade206;c-9815416 said:
Go figure;c-9815390 said:
dwade206;c-9815279 said:
Go figure;c-9814938 said:
Lotta trash posts in this joint. Yall trippin...not even top 100?? 2 of the top 5 most selling hip hop albums of all time but not even top 100? Of course i dont care about sales...but thats WITH his talent.

Some of the newer dudes yall listed above him were influenced by him.

One of the best mainstream rappers who came up battling. No deep songs? Anyone listen to infinite? Mmlp? Eminem show? His content made him controversial. Cant say he has no substance. Im convinced u all dont know his catalog that well or just biased af.

Trash posts

Didn't get a chance to. I was too busy listening to the Racist Rap Hour by Bassmint productions.

But I digress, some of you negroes will fight to the end for massa. Even, objectively, dude has no timeless music even with his "lyrical miracle spiritual" style. I used to play his shit when I was a kid and when I became a man, I realized this nigga was trash. Dope fiend, gay orgies, always whining about his heart being broken, talked about fuckin his own mother, wanted to kill his baby's mother, battled Mariah Carey (smh, really nigga), outdated production, not much substance, no soul at all, oh and how can I forget the classic tracks Just Lose It and Fack. Man, fuck y'all coon clowns.

None of the shit u mentioned was in any of the albums i named including just lose it and fack except him being an addict.

Trash post

"Oh no you don't. I'sss gon fight fo massa til da end. He dies, I die. He sick, I'sss sick. He likes Vicodin and gay orgies, I'sss like em too, bee bopp ba doodle doo do."

Fuck outta here. Your boy is trash.

All your posts in here mention racism or coonism ur focusing on the racist tape not skill level which is fine but not objective.

The top 5 alive today fuck with em so by ur logic theyre coons n if u listen to any of em u callin urself a coon. Have at it bro

Yeah, you conveniently ignored the rest of my post. Selective reading ass nigga.
 
"All the girls I like to bone have big butts/ No they don't, 'cause I don't like that nigger shit/I'm just here to make a bigger hit."

 
CashmoneyDux;c-9815549 said:
Lmao "em top 5 so the racist shit don't matter cuz everyone else is racist!"

This shit is sad

The racist shit was acknowledged in the thread about the racist tapes.

Racism has nothing to do with talent at a craft.

Pedophilia has nothing to do with mj or kells singing skills. Irrelevant to the convo of his skill level.
 
Go figure;c-9815619 said:
CashmoneyDux;c-9815549 said:
Lmao "em top 5 so the racist shit don't matter cuz everyone else is racist!"

This shit is sad

The racist shit was acknowledged in the thread about the racist tapes.

Racism has nothing to do with talent at a craft.

Pedophilia has nothing to do with mj or kells singing skills. Irrelevant to the convo of his skill level.

...fuckin sad
 
Go figure;c-9815619 said:
CashmoneyDux;c-9815549 said:
Lmao "em top 5 so the racist shit don't matter cuz everyone else is racist!"

This shit is sad

The racist shit was acknowledged in the thread about the racist tapes.

Racism has nothing to do with talent at a craft.

Pedophilia has nothing to do with mj or kells singing skills. Irrelevant to the convo of his skill level.

You're right and that's why I framed the question in the manner that I did.

1. Skills

2. Catalog/Discography compared to Jay, Nas, Big, Pac

3. Impact (sales, popularity, etc.)

But @"za'kiss" made a good point on page 6 of this thread. He brought up subject matter, which can be discussed objectively.

Eminem is skilled at wordplay and punchlines, but he raps about things that I find uninteresting. 2Pac on the other hand didn't focus on wordplay like Eminem but his content is more appealing to me. Eminem puts words together that would best be described as "multis" meaning: there is an internal rhyme structure thats more complicated than AA/BB/CC/DD.

But the problem is that when he uses these complicated rhyme patterns his subject matter suffers. It suffers to the point that he's not really saying anything. Which leads us to subject matter/content.

If I could remake this thread I'd make Content the 4th criteria.
 
Go figure;c-9815619 said:
CashmoneyDux;c-9815549 said:
Lmao "em top 5 so the racist shit don't matter cuz everyone else is racist!"

This shit is sad

The racist shit was acknowledged in the thread about the racist tapes.

Racism has nothing to do with talent at a craft.

Pedophilia has nothing to do with mj or kells singing skills. Irrelevant to the convo of his skill level.

Lmao he rapped some racist shit but "it has nothing to do with the craft"

Pathetic
 
CashmoneyDux;c-9815698 said:
Go figure;c-9815619 said:
CashmoneyDux;c-9815549 said:
Lmao "em top 5 so the racist shit don't matter cuz everyone else is racist!"

This shit is sad

The racist shit was acknowledged in the thread about the racist tapes.

Racism has nothing to do with talent at a craft.

Pedophilia has nothing to do with mj or kells singing skills. Irrelevant to the convo of his skill level.

Lmao he rapped some racist shit but "it has nothing to do with the craft"

Pathetic

Yet threadstarter says...

5 Grand;c-9815696 said:
Go figure;c-9815619 said:
CashmoneyDux;c-9815549 said:
Lmao "em top 5 so the racist shit don't matter cuz everyone else is racist!"

This shit is sad

The racist shit was acknowledged in the thread about the racist tapes.

Racism has nothing to do with talent at a craft.

Pedophilia has nothing to do with mj or kells singing skills. Irrelevant to the convo of his skill level.

You're right and that's why I framed the question in the manner that I did.

1. Skills

2. Catalog/Discography compared to Jay, Nas, Big, Pac

3. Impact (sales, popularity, etc.)

So......

Go figure;c-9812794 said:
Is Em a top 10 rapper?

Your fav artist: "Yes"

IC: no he is racist

Did yall get thru high school?

Go figure;c-9812746 said:
Mfs purposely ignored the word OBJECTIVE or just dont know what it means
 
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He's not top 10 besides the racism shit anyway. Niggas always wanna talk Lyrics like he well rounded .

Multis he's ill, he used to be able to flow, good at telling stories.

His Metaphors and punches are fucking wack. Content is ass.

That's just on the lyrics side.

The artistry/songwriter side he's mediocre as hell all around.

 
Go figure;c-9815619 said:
CashmoneyDux;c-9815549 said:
Lmao "em top 5 so the racist shit don't matter cuz everyone else is racist!"

This shit is sad

The racist shit was acknowledged in the thread about the racist tapes.

Racism has nothing to do with talent at a craft.

Pedophilia has nothing to do with mj or kells singing skills. Irrelevant to the convo of his skill level.

It's a Black craft, the bitch-boy played us, and y'all bed wench ass niggas still caping. Lmao, backward time we live in.
 

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