And_So_It_Burns
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Industrial Engineering ftw. It's the perfect marriage of buisness and engineering
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Not bad: Engineering and Computer Science majors top list of highest starting salary
major pain
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lol business degrees... almost ANYONE can learn the material in a business program.. now consider the same with engineering
i'm not saying business degrees arent marketable at all, but there is a reason why engineers are sought after more
i'm not saying business degrees arent marketable at all, but there is a reason why engineers are sought after more
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fiat_money
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Lauce :
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DarthRozay
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well damn. i was considering doing one of these for my major and this helped convince me lmao i'll remember ya'll for this ic
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major pain;4073015 said:
Yep, it's all supply and demand...there is a glut of business majors and the curriculum isn't as strenuous as those in engineering. I'm sorry but you can fall asleep in your macroecon class and skip classes and still get an A....almost impossible to pull that feat in physics. Plus in college computer science and engineering courses are littered with "weed out" classes that firehose the hell out of you tw (and or have the most ridiculous testing procedures known to man) and try to make you submit and leave for a liberal arts major instead. My friend whose a semester ahead of me took Calculus III, started with 85 people at the beginning but going into the final there were 11....and I'm willing to bet not all 11 passed their finals lol...but the reward can be great. Just bust your butt mang
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fiat_money
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Calc III was trill. Even the teacher didn't like that shit.
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-Vincenzo-
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fiat_money;4073051 said:Lauce :
you are aware of the fact, that the upper graph subsummizes under business economics,business administration and accounting, which equals 33% of all CEOs following the other source you posted...
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fiat_money
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The top graph shows the number of degrees conferred in each field of study for the selected time frame. Roughly 21.7% of the degrees attained in the 2008-2009 year are in Business, while around 5.3% are in Engineering; a ratio of around 4.1 to 1, of Business to Engineering degrees. Economics is actually a "Social Science", so you can really only lump Accounting and Business Administration together as "Business degrees". In this case, the ratio of CEO's with these lumped Business degrees to CEO's with Engineering degrees is 1 to 1; because, CEO's with Accounting degrees (9%) plus CEO's with Business Administration degrees (13%) is 22%, and CEO's with Engineering degrees is also 22%. So, when comparing the percentage of degrees attained with the percentage of CEO's with degrees; it is shown that people with degrees in Engineering are at least 4 times more likely to become CEO's than people with degrees in Business (including Accounting).-Vincenzo-;4076074 said:
This means that although people are much more likely to get a Business Degree (assuming this includes Accounting degrees); they are much less likely to become CEO's than people with Engineering degrees.
If, for whatever reason, you want to consider Economics as a Business degree--despite it being a Social Science--the ratio becomes 38% to 22% or 1.72 to 1. Making it so that people with degrees in Engineering are at least twice as likely to become CEO's as people with degrees in Business (including Accounting and, for whatever reason, Economics).
And that's why I wrote "Lauce".
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Eh..well id be a BSN nurse when i get out n that starts at 43,000 in the USA. n it starts at 57,600 here in Canada thats not including overtime watssoever, n school for nursing is like 4x easier, and a practioner makes and average of 80,000-90,000 in Canada same goes for an administrator or public health nurse so im good with the engineering n math, but cudos people that takin that lane.
Id rather just stay in the lane, make cash, go back to school get a masters to become a practioner, and eventually become an administrator working in the office, or in Human resources
Id rather just stay in the lane, make cash, go back to school get a masters to become a practioner, and eventually become an administrator working in the office, or in Human resources
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-Vincenzo-
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fiat_money;4076333 said:
okay, i wont even argue against that since i'm not trying to knock your hustle or anything. the average engineering graduate is probably better off than the average business graduate.
i think it's really the top 10-20% of business graduates that take all the money home. them MBA dudes and them Wall Street folks. a regular business graduate from your local college probably wont go that far and is easily overtrumpeted by an engineering graduate, co-sign.
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-Vincenzo-
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I'd like to add one thing tho:
It is not that a business degree is worth nothing or less, it is just that everybody and their momma enters these programs without having the smarts and elbows to make it in the business world. i assume engineering programs are mostly entered by people, that really have talent in this field. if all these people, that just dont know what to study and therefore study business would start entering engineering and cheat their way through, the numbers would look different.
that's why i said, MBA dudes should be representative cause these degreers have stricter admission criteria like GMAT score etc.
It is not that a business degree is worth nothing or less, it is just that everybody and their momma enters these programs without having the smarts and elbows to make it in the business world. i assume engineering programs are mostly entered by people, that really have talent in this field. if all these people, that just dont know what to study and therefore study business would start entering engineering and cheat their way through, the numbers would look different.
that's why i said, MBA dudes should be representative cause these degreers have stricter admission criteria like GMAT score etc.
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blackdemo;4076459 said:
Pretty damn good, though what area of the nation you pursue your career in plays a huge factor. In Northern Virginia, graduating with an engineering degree = almost 100% placement rate. Our Dulles Tech Corridor has the highest concentration of satellite and telecom companies in the world. The IT sector is hot and I personally know dozens of friends with NO degree but plenty of certs + security clearances making bank. If you have a degree + certs + clearances = you will have a job. Come to Loudoun or Fairfax county. It's got the nation's highest concentration of residents 25 to 34 with salaries of $100,000 or more (article about it below). What recession? Everyone here has jobs, a nice crib, surfing on their iPads at Starbucks. Here are some of the companies doing biz in that little stretch of highway alone:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110604170.html?sid=ST2009110604211
* Accenture
* AgustaWestland
* Airbus
* AOL
* AT&T
* Booz Allen Hamilton
* BAE Systems
* Boeing
* CA, Inc.
* Capgemini
* Cisco Systems
* Computer Sciences Corporation
* DynCorp
* EDS
* ExxonMobil
* Fairchild Dornier
* Getronics
* Juniper Networks
* L-3 Communications
* Lockheed Martin
* Microsoft
* Network Solutions
* NeuStar
* Nissan Motors
* Nortel Networks
* Northrop Grumman
* Oracle Corporation
* Orbital Sciences
* Raytheon
* Rolls-Royce North America
* SAIC
* Siemens
* Sprint Nextel
* Symantec
* Tata Communications
* Time Warner Cable
* Unisys
* XO Communications
* VeriSign
* Verizon
* Volkswagen
* Latista Technologies
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fiat_money
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According to a recent study by Georgetown University's Center on Education and the Workforce:blackdemo;4076459 said:
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