As gay as the fact that this thread is this many pages long, killacham has a point. alot of the people trying to refute his arguments are coming back with biased views from jump. some of yall will never fully respect a female mc even if shes decent so yall cling on to her facial expressions as a reason to hate. lol. at the very least, she definately is not wack. not a big follower but shes alot better than all them niggas in young money obviously excluding drake and weezy.
with that said, shes a respectable mc considering her use of different flows and deliveries that some dudes in the game dont have which is surprising. gimmicks, crazy voice and barbie persona aside, unbiasedly, she is a decent mc imo
with that said, shes a respectable mc considering her use of different flows and deliveries that some dudes in the game dont have which is surprising. gimmicks, crazy voice and barbie persona aside, unbiasedly, she is a decent mc imo
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tompetrez3
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might as well say FUCK JAY Z while this thread still has life
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yroholla;366785 said:
Basically. People are so critcal towards female rappers that it's crazy. I haven't really mentioned her skill because i'm not really trying to have someone argue opinions with me, but Nicki's shitting on 80% of the so-called lousy ass rappers you hear now. Like I said; for instance, nobody knocks Gucci or Jeezy so hard for their ABC drug-rhymes. These are the same people who call me a hater when I said Jeezy has no classic albums lol. But god forbid Nicki makes a face or has a diferent delivery and it's a problem.
I'm just still in this thread really because i'm trying to see how many dumb excuses people will actually come up with lol.
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grumpy_new_yorker
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and your really a mod on these boards???
really??? ...really???
great threads get killed off like that, but this shit keeps going and going. its friday night, don't you have better shit to do?
really??? ...really???
great threads get killed off like that, but this shit keeps going and going. its friday night, don't you have better shit to do?
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grumpy_new_yorker
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not really, but im not here jockin my favorite rapper 24-7
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geechee slim
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That sig pic is hilarious tho.
I'd love to see her make those faces without makeup.
I'd love to see her make those faces without makeup.
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supersajinfo
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I also find it interesting how you are a mod but that is not the point here. Right now we discussing is she is a gimmick and a one trick pony. you only gave us examples of other rappers women we know are either gimmicks or real deal m.c's . You keep making excuses for your artist by saying that another artist already did that so it should be accepted. Therefore you admit that Nicki Minaj copies and uses other female rappers before her styles and she has sacrificed her artistic integrity by embracing and promoting a promiscious lifestyle that she has not previously promoted. In an attempt to defend Nicki Minaj you ignore or brush off her predecessors in popular music and culture that either pioneered this image or created it. Regardless of her looks which is debatable in certain circles. You have yet to address her rapping skills which many have complained about being poor instead you bring up her personality traits. On paper you can't tell someone's personality unless its written down, or expressed through word usage or special pronunciation. Her personality and persona has changed within the past 4 years instead of using this in your defense you keep repeating that she has always been like this when there is recorded evidence that she was not like this 4 years ago. So MR.Killa Cham this debate that has been held is pointless .
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supersajinfo;366910 said:
Huh? I'm not making excuses. I was talking about the other female rappers to show how Nicki Minaj is different from them, not how they're the same.
I brought up DMX, Biggie, Wu-Tang and all those artists because according to the people in this thread's logic..they're gimmicks too. Yet nobody drills them (nh) for being gimmicks. That's what I mean when I say rap fans are so biased.
I didn't bring up her rapping skills because nobody else did, and that's really based on opinion/who you ask. But if you wanna talk about that we definitely can.
And I said she's always had the same persona basically...but to a lesser extent. You can really see it though in old interviews and videos, it was just toned down. It's called finding your style. Redman didn't truely find his style under his 3rd album. MJ wasn't the MJ everyone knows him to be until Off The Wall. Eminem wasn't EMINEM when he first started rapping. GaGa def didn't act like the GaGa we see now, 3 years ago.
But like I said, artists get praised for doing the same things..but when Nicki Minaj does it, it's a problem.
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Yung_Souf_Money
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grumpy_new_yorker
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there is a big difference between giving dapz and obsession.
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Brian Corleone
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KillaCham.;366951 said:
You're doing the same thing. You're discrediting these "excuses" people have. A lot of their claims are as valid as your claims, most of it being opinions, after all, but some facts are sprinkled in there. The thread ain't about her gimmicks anymore though.
Most people are appalled that someone can dick ride this hard for this chick; now if you were a girl, I guess it's a little bit okay--still a little weird. But you're a man of 20+ and claim to be straight. I hope, for your sake, you're a secret promoter, as have been suggested in recent posts; if not, well, this is some sick, twisted obsession.
Despite the crush of people insulting you and your love interest (Nicki), I do commend you for your resilience.
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Bruh....you're DUDE who has a female rapper in his avi and sig.....not only that but you have "I b-b-b-b-ball, no testical" under you're name and you're riding super hard (pause) for a female rapper. You don't think any of this a bit strange? I've never seen a dude ride this hard (pause) over a female
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damobb2deep
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i like that shyt.........* shrug*.....(smh @ hip hop "realest")
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lol yall are gettin on killacham pretty beasty. i like nikki minaj too. realistically i dont see him "riding hard" for nikki at all. the mulitple attacks on him supporting nikki and his sexuality definately helped this thread last as long as it did.
i got some boys who dont fuck with nikki but they never say she wack. they say when she changes her voice inflection or her face expressions its annoying and thats their only basis for disliking her. but somehow im the only one who can look past that and recognize her talent. its really not that hard to look pass those things but since shes a female yall dont wanna give her that respect. thats understandable because it is a mans sport but times are changing man. give her props!!
i got some boys who dont fuck with nikki but they never say she wack. they say when she changes her voice inflection or her face expressions its annoying and thats their only basis for disliking her. but somehow im the only one who can look past that and recognize her talent. its really not that hard to look pass those things but since shes a female yall dont wanna give her that respect. thats understandable because it is a mans sport but times are changing man. give her props!!
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