New Testament ALSO says to not eat swine

[KLICHE]

LMMFAO!!!!! yeah you right. I been reading the book and been reading too long obviously LMAO

 

[KLICHE]

what a fuckin embarrassment! LMAO

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Either way it's still valid. The OT says follow it til the heavens and earth are no more, and obviously Earth is still here as is the galaxy

 

[KLICHE]

Either way it's still valid. The OT says follow it til the heavens and earth are no more, and obviously Earth is still here as is the galaxy

do you have connections at all the verse?

 

[KLICHE]

I read this online.. translation slightly differs to what I read just now iin my deceased grandmothers copy of her bible.. but basically same message.

"Are you so dull?" he (Jesus) asked, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.") He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' For from within, out of men's hearts come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance, and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean'."

Mark 7:18-23

 

[shootemwon]

Pork is unhealthy, but it's ok to eat it occasionally. Just don't overdo it.

 

[Israelites]

If we keep the chptr in Matthew in its context its not speaking of food per say, its speaking on the traditions of the elders (washing of the hands before eating) & how they held that at a higher honor than the commandments of the LORD...it's not saying we can just eat anything that's unclean now.... Swine is still not clean to eat along w/other unclean animals that the LORD deemed unclean for us, this is why Paul says.

Romans 14:14 (King James Version)

14I know, and am (persuaded by the Lord Jesus), that( there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth) any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

Paul already knows in his mind what's of the Most High & what isn't, so he says nothing is unclean of itself, meaning everything has been created by the hands of the Most High for whatever reason he created it, we can't call other creatures unclean wether it be animals or humans, this is why in Leviticus the LORD puts a difference in the beast we are to consume

Leviticus 20:25 (King James Version)

25(Ye shall therefore put difference between clean beasts and unclean,) and (between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground), which ( I )have (separated from you as unclean.)

again nothing is unclean to the creator since he created it, but we see what HE says about consuming some beast, fowls etc....which makes our vessels/bodies abominable

Also the vision Peter saw of the unclean beasts, if kept in context wasn't letting us know to eat these unclean beast, the vision was to show Peter that he being an Israelite shouldn't call gentiles/europeans unclean .. because gentiles never worshipped the GOD of Israel, they had their own gods,customs & traditions they hold to this day...but the LORD was showing him that it wasn't his place to label another nation unclean

Read all of acts 10 to see...but i'm speaking on acts 10:28, which most people don't read to understand the true meaning behind this vision

Acts 10

28And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; (but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.)

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

pig is perfectly safe to eat if you cook it

all meat potentially contains harmful bacteria and worms, not just pig

LOL at a god that creates pigs and then goes "oops, don't eat that, i fucked up"

you have to be fuckin dumb to believe this religious shit

 

[ThaChozenWun]

pig is perfectly safe to eat if you cook it

all meat potentially contains harmful bacteria and worms, not just pig

LOL at a god that creates pigs and then goes "oops, don't eat that, i fucked up"

you have to be fuckin dumb to believe this religious shit

Exactly, plants, pork, hamburger, chicken, everything has bacteria in it that is harmful.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Pigs left to their own will eat anything. Then again, so will humans.

 

[supaman4321]

"The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various Helminthes, like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which in a layman’s terminology is called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack and if it enters the eye it can cause blindness. If it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body.

Another dangerous helminthes is Taenia Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from

Taenia tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ovas present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature. "

not claiming to be a health know it all or anything but uh....yea...

http://www.islamicvoice.com/february.99/zakir.htm

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

lol at you posting an article from a guy who said this:

"If he Osama bin Laden is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him. If he is terrorizing the terrorists, if he is terrorizing America the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, I am with him. Every Muslim should be a terrorist."
---Zakir Naik

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704365204575317833268479268.html?mod=asia_opinion
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1927126-2,00.html
http://www.economicvoice.com/hate-preacher-banned-from-britain/50011156#more-11156

 

[KLICHE]

pig is perfectly safe to eat if you cook it

all meat potentially contains harmful bacteria and worms, not just pig

LOL at a god that creates pigs and then goes "oops, don't eat that, i fucked up"

you have to be fuckin dumb to believe this religious shit

Ok for the religious though, wouldn't they argue well it is not a matter of what you deem clean or unclean, but following instructions from the Lord? I am full aware religion is not for you, not something you condone, and not something you find plausible.. that is fine.. but it is odd when people who claim to follow their own chosen book, pick and choose what they'll go with. That is what baffles me..

I did think though that the unclean meant more than just the meat beign full of bacteria or harmful in that sense.. I remember reading on a Christian site once the guy saying that made you less conscious of the Lord eating the swine.. and had compared it to the indulgence in liquor etc ...

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

what type of god is so insecure that he has to give people absurd tests like that?

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

what type of god is so insecure that he has to give people absurd tests like that?

Mind over matter. What is the master of the body? The body itself or the mind? Left to run rampant, the body will dictate, not submit.

 

[KLICHE]

what type of god is so insecure that he has to give people absurd tests like that?

the one that created us.. maybe? guess that is the whole view of the hardcore religious.. The God can do as He pleases.

 

[And Step]

pig is perfectly safe to eat if you cook it

all meat potentially contains harmful bacteria and worms, not just pig

LOL at a god that creates pigs and then goes "oops, don't eat that, i fucked up"

you have to be fuckin dumb to believe this religious shit

Just because something exists doesn't mean it is good for food. Arsenic, Wild Mushrooms, and certain reef fish are all natural but if you eat them you could be taking a dirt nap.

Everything exists fora purpose that doesn't mean it should be eaten. Hogs are good for waste disposal, also for extracting poisons. The German doctors during the Nazi reign utilized pigs for medicinal purposes.

And pig is not perfectly safe if you cook it. The Trichnae worm can survive the cooking process. That is becasue it can be encased in a shell(cyst) only to hatch after being ingested.

When food attacks!

[video=youtube;IZB5b-jX10Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZB5b-jX10Q&feature=channel[/video]

Pig eaters, lost

 

[supaman4321]

lol at you posting an article from a guy who said this:

"If he Osama bin Laden is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him. If he is terrorizing the terrorists, if he is terrorizing America the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, I am with him. Every Muslim should be a terrorist."
---Zakir Naik

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704365204575317833268479268.html?mod=asia_opinion
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1927126-2,00.html
http://www.economicvoice.com/hate-preacher-banned-from-britain/50011156#more-11156

America is a terrorist so I agree with him but it's not the only one, anybody that "advocates" and "tolerates" the things that this country does is a terrorist to me but they're not the only form.

Wa alaikum

 

[supaman4321]

the one that created us.. maybe? guess that is the whole view of the hardcore religious.. The God can do as He pleases.

This is true but it's also not as simple as that

Yes I say God can do what he pleases because he is God that is in his nature if He didn't then he wouldn't be God, but the difference is I believer that God will ONLY do things befitting of His nature. I believe that Allah is the Best Judge and Most Knowing. So anything that he decrees HAS to be for a good reason because that is the only way he could act as a God that is the only thing that would make sense for Him. So why when you can obviously see the benefits of leaving it alone over other animals for ANY time no matter the technology you can use to cook, would you go against it. What are the benefits in eating it over other foods when you can obviously see negatives?

How prideful is that?

Salaam

 

[judahxulu]

pig is perfectly safe to eat if you cook it

all meat potentially contains harmful bacteria and worms, not just pig

LOL at a god that creates pigs and then goes "oops, don't eat that, i fucked up"

you have to be fuckin dumb to believe this religious shit

You have to be dumb to imagine that scenario about the inspiration of the text when the text clearly says:

Gen 1:29
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Gen 9:3-5
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

think about it