New Joe Budden - "Wake" (Dissing Drake Again)

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when LL dissed Canibus...do u know why?

because the nigga canibus said "lemme borrow the mic from your arm".

thats IT.

this is why @sion is completely full of shit and drake* nut.

stop it. everything you are saying is anti-rap..

talking about plans and ways to approach "rap beef" by doing shit OTHER than rapping. My god.
 
Sion;9164223 said:
i ro ny;9164177 said:
when LL dissed Canibus...do u know why?

because the nigga canibus said "lemme borrow the mic from your arm".

thats IT.

this is why @sion is completely full of shit and drake* nut.

stop it. everything you are saying is anti-rap..

talking about plans and ways to approach "rap beef" by doing shit OTHER than rapping. My god.

No it ain't now you just looking for your own narratives, LL had every reason to go at Canibus. Nowhere on 4PM In Calabasas did Drake even mention Joe Budden and no that nigga is not on his radar. I get it trust but I'm just saying his reasons suck.

oh it isnt?

Please enlighten me on how LL had EVERY reason to go at Canibus.

@sion, you are about to find out how much you are full of nut/shit.

 
With the exception of Stay Schemin, I'm pretty sure those are all like half a bar-type innuendos. And no one cares about Tory Lanez, Tyga, Chris Brown, Puffy. They may "rap", but they're not "rappers". He got Meek because Meek is an idiot and can't go outside of a limited range of topics.

People that really appreciate the genre understand that Drake is the first rapper to be propped up to this point without having earned it first. Airing out issues in publications is not "hip-hop".

It's show and prove time for your paper champion.

 


humor me, @sion. tell me the reasoning behind LL dissing canibus.

you cant bell biv divoe your way out of this one.

 
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Cutler 26 INT's LOL!;9161117 said:
Niggas hate Drake so much they hyping Joe Budden. Incredible. Is it 2003?? Am I in a time warp??

The fact that you don't have to ask "who" or "where he been all these years" proves his relevance ...... welcome back to 2016
 
What does relevance have to do with high level MCing?

If, a person plays this track and doesn't hear a skilled MC they are either A.) Lying or B.) Hating. In either case they'd be an idiot. I don't own Joe Budden CD, .mp3 or .wav nor can I name a joe budden song aside from "pump it up" and that might even be the wrong title. All I know is when I clicked play that joint passed the ear test with flying colors. High level MCing\Hip Hop going on .
 
DNB1;9163895 said:
Buddens is only trying to get Drake to show case some lyrical skill, which Buddens as a super fan of Drake, believes he is capable of...

He's actually trying to help Drake be great.

The thing is Drake is not a rapper so Joe is wasting his time joe would b better off dissin meek & getting punched n the mouf again.... atleast joe wouldn't look like a sucka & a bully for pickin on a non rappin Canadian culture vulture like Drake
 
Sion;9164189 said:
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Sion;9163818 said:
KnowReasonForPeace;9163252 said:
Sion;9163224 said:
GetoBoy;9162503 said:
Gee_has_hot_picture;9162467 said:
GetoBoy;9162456 said:
Y'all really gotta stop with the Drake/Jay comparisons to save Drake becuz that's not gonna work..... Jay done been in battles whether direct or indirect from the time he came in the game including arguably the biggest one in hip hop history so he's earned the right to not literally have to respond to EVERYBODY every single time they say something but even in that he'll still drop off a dig a hole or that game freestyle to let you know he still ain't gonna just take it.....

Drake has literally ignored everybody that actually got bars but wanna engage with Meek??? Beating Meek dont now give Drake the right to ignore real MCs he go out here battle Joe that'll show ppl something I mean it aint like there ain't tons of material on Joe show the world you ain't just sum pop star and body that nigga or stfu bout how great you are becuz we won't believe you

he had a real reason to go after meek, Joe budden is just trying to sell more then 10 units, joe has no reason to go after drake other then hes desperate to save his career, its pathetic.

i wanna see an artist who people actually listen to and support go after drake(its not drakes job to make joes career) and or someone who has real beef with him do it. joey just puts me to sleep, and nas is my favourite artist its not hard to wake me up

Fuck if he had a reason or not if I came and slapped you would you not slap me back becuz "I didn't have a reason to slap you" if Joe was dropping weak disses I could see him ignoring it but Joey out here slaying this nigga you can't call yourself a all time great and wanna ignore this but be quick to reply every time Meek does anything or Tory Lanez..... That's doing nothing but being a bully who's scared to pick on somebody their own size

This doesn't make sense. Drake has responded to Meek Mill, Tyga, Chris Brown, Common, Tory Lanez, Jay-Z (on Draft Day), etc. When they came at him.

All of those names started it and came at him first. Meek was mad about his album and the reference tapes, Tyga was jealous, Chris Brown over Rihanna, Common said in Breakfast Club it was over Serena, Tory Lanez was calling out Drake for a year, Jay-Z and Jay-E. Correct me if I'm wrong but uh yeah.

And you can't be choosy and say we can't use Jay as a comparison as someone who hasn't responded in the past then say "pick on your own size" when Hov always picked the battles he knew he could win except NaS. Why didn't Jay go at 50 from 2003 onwards ? Why didn't Jay talk bout Dame Dash and the Rocafella split or the Beanie Sigel fallout when he called the cops on him ? I'm just using it as an example but you get what I'm saying.

Why didn't drake go at Pusha T? I see you left out the one who came at him the hardest besides budden. You keep saying people who come at drake need a plan. How about drake is just getting dragged with bars and there's nothing else to it. You can assume whatever you like but at the end of the day budden up 2-0 on drake as far as diss records are concerned and not everyone gives a fuck about his success. He needs to respond since again he said he would start responding to anyone who takes shots at him. There's no getting around that period. Drake literally been pissed on and smacked up yet you steady defending this man as if shit has to be a full proof plan to show this nigga drake up. Was there a plan for Diddy to smack drake up? Was there a plan for drake to get pissed on? No? Sometimes things are what they are without some 100 step plan of attack. Aubrey taking Ls.

Listen man I already said fuck this beef. Drake is the one who doesn't want to respond because he's cautious and plays safe. He doesn't have to do shit if it doesn't make him a dime. Same reason he didn't say shit about Kendrick Lamar or Pusha T. Same reason Jay-Z didn't say shit to Curtis, same reason Kanye West didn't say shit to the ppl who called him a shim for wearing skirts. Same reason Puffy didn't beef with 50 when he was shitting on him. NaS came with a plan to beat Jay, he even got Jay and Cam to apologise at a press conference for harassing his daughter. He took over hot 97, got queensbridge behind him, dropped ether on his birthday, said Jay was a hypocrite and didn't give back to the hood (which prompted blueprint 2). He succeeded in getting his full attention and turning the tables (it took months before he even responded). Jay's plan was to undermine NaS to beat him and had his baby moms was his ace which back fired. Same with 50 Cent when he faced everyone, he always came with a plan and used it to promote himself or whatever he had going. Why is this principle so hard to understand ?

Niggas want it one way but it's not one way. Social media gives ppl a false sense of entitlement. Drake will give that nigga a subliminal at best but he's not stupid and he's not going to throw his career away because you niggas don't like him - he's not giving away his career to fuckin Joe Budden that's for sure. I'm only relaying what I see and whats happening. I don't care for this beef because it's lame. I'm being objective. He doesn't have to respond if he doesn't want to.

Thank you, Mr. Stanfield. Smh. You need to quit being an enabler of this sissified state of rap just because Drake is involved. You're better than this, bruh.

Now if you'd be so kind, perhaps you'd like to tell me what Drake has done that absolves him of following one of the oldest rules of the genre: if you're at the top, you defend your spot. Jay earned his right to ignore people that threw shots. Wtf has Drake done? Gain the following of teeny bopper, thot bitches and insecure niggas that wear jeggings?

Anytime a real challenge is issued to Drake, that nigga tucks tail and runs. It's annoying.

Dude I just dropped Meek, Tyga, Chris Brown, Puffy, Jay-Z/Jay-E, Tory Lanez, even Kendrick he addressed in a publication about having issues with him. He addressed all those people. You're better than this and know these things happened but still ignore it. Where's the objectivity ? We gon act like Summer Sixteen, stay scheming, 4PM In Calabasas, back to back, 6PM In New York, etc. Didn't happen ? So niggas being choosy now ? He ran and tucked his tail then ?? He didn't defend his turf then ?? You also know I'm the last nigga to just jump the bandwagon of the prevailing ideology just for cosign and GOATs. It's fuck Drake now ? Ok why ? Cuz he hasn't dissed Joe fucking Butters ?? I've always been a poster who took the opposition and questioned it rather than joined it. I said fuck this beef and both these niggas and now I'm a Drake Stan for simply saying I doubt he won't respond and its stupid af to cuz Joe us sensitive and aint worth it and is washed. Only.On.The.IC.

I want to see blood spilled and a Drake/Joe Battle is fuckin wack. If it were Kendrick, Cole or Flacko it'd be far more entertaining cuz they're far more entertaining rappers than a reality TV rapper whose up in arms over nonsense.

And on top of all this bitch shit, the nigga that @sion is championing for has NEVER said the names of any of these niggas in a rap.

NOT ONE.

 
Free post in this waste thread.

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Sion;9164223 said:
i ro ny;9164177 said:
when LL dissed Canibus...do u know why?

because the nigga canibus said "lemme borrow the mic from your arm".

thats IT.

this is why @sion is completely full of shit and drake* nut.

stop it. everything you are saying is anti-rap..

talking about plans and ways to approach "rap beef" by doing shit OTHER than rapping. My god.

No it ain't now you just looking for your own narratives, LL had every reason to go at Canibus. Nowhere on 4PM In Calabasas did Drake even mention Joe Budden and no that nigga is not on his radar. I get it trust but I'm just saying his reasons suck.

I'm saying if you want to get under a nigga like Drake's skin and goad him into battle and BEAT him and end his career you better come with a decent plan cuz the nigga is strategic and treads cautiously.

No he didn't canibus wasn't trying to disrespect LL
 
Sion;9164572 said:
i ro ny;9164262 said:
humor me, @sion. tell me the reasoning behind LL dissing canibus.

you cant bell biv divoe your way out of this one.

I'm at fuckin work got dayum you should be too LOLOLOLOL !!! I'm just playing but....

Canibus actually referred directly to LL and LL comes from a different era. He could respond on it as the GOAT MC because Bis was getting put on and it wasn't his place to be making that statement on his track like they was on the same level. He didn't have to take it the way he did but that's how LL felt. This is not the same thing - 4PM in Calabasas is not about fuckin Joe Buddens tho. Joe just being emotional af.

im at work too nigga and today i got time, cuz.

incorrect sir.

canibus tried to pay homage to LL.

LL heard it, didnt like the "homage" and made him change his verse, then LL decided to change his verse to diss him.

its that simple.

as far as 4pm in calabasas, who the FUCK was it about?

"you're whole demeanor spells envy" ....jealous ones envy, joe.

clever right? "strategic" right.

now when a nigga....from a different era hears that and takes it as a diss, you say "man this whole shit is lame".

cut it out. just say you're a sucker for that nigga because yall from the same school and you love the nigga and dont want him to lose.
 
This is a good discussion. I fuck with Sion but he is wrong on this. And all of a sudden people acting like they didn't hear the Drake and French Montana snippet of Drake sneak dissing. Saying pump pump pump it up? And let's not act like drake and Joe don't have any relationship what so ever. Casual fans acting like drake don't even know who Budden is
 
i mean atleast meek replied to cassidy.....

shit..

and cassidy was less relevant than joe is considered by some of yall...
 

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