NBA players and owners hold firm....decertification process has started

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eyes low;3712277 said:
league minimum is 412k a year the avg salary i think its 5 mill, these guys making millions to work 7-8 months a year, what most players make in 1 quarter most of us make in a year. They need to take the deal and play its not like these guys are taking that much of a hit

easy for you to say from the outside looking in. The owners making hundreds of millions off them, why shouldnt they settle and stop being greedy
 
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rap doctor;3711942 said:
hate to be on my 2012 steeze but

We see who would be the house niggas scared to leave the plantation

The players are fighting and making a stand for themselves and future players, how dare yall suggest they should cave in and be bullied. That's so weak

lmao but what slave was offered 50% of their plantation owners salary? what slave owner had a voice in the paper? my ancestors were not even counted as a full person during slavery. some of yall niggas don't understand about comprimise and shit and good luck getting jobs without being able to comprimise. just because you agree to a deal that isn't 100% what you want doesn't mean your a house nigga it just means you are doing a little thing called negotiating.

these plantation owner metaphors are played the fuck out tho. niggas need to stop giving the players sympathy just because most the players are black. because after the fact most the nba is black folks i cant relate to most of these spoiled niggas/overpaid past prime white boys. hell ill take the nba minimum wage any day over what im making for my college job trina make it out this bitch and trina get a job next year. hell the average person black white or blue cant even afford a decent seat to watch these players live.
 
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rap doctor;3712310 said:
easy for you to say from the outside looking in. The owners making hundreds of millions off them, why shouldnt they settle and stop being greedy

You must not understand whats going on here.

The owners are claiming they arent making money. In fact, they are saying on a whole they are LOSING 100s of millions a year. The union/players are saying that the figures are not completely accurate. This is why the CBA is so important to both sides.
 
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rap doctor;3712310 said:
easy for you to say from the outside looking in. The owners making hundreds of millions off them, why shouldnt they settle and stop being greedy

these guys are getting a better deal than the nfl players and the nfl is 100x bigger, And thats the way it is the owner of a company is always gonna make more than the employee, the owners are putting money into the league the players arent
 
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Fact: the Players make the game what it is today while the owners are sittin on more millions than the players....we talking about players who will eventually be an afterthought and passed up on as they age while the same old ass owners still making money off them...we can't judge the players aand say "well they still make x amount of dollars" and not hold owners to the same standards...ain't no pension plans for NBA players...they can get injured any given day and their stock plummets soon as their contract is up if the injury persists...and some even sooner if they don't have a long term contracts.....at the end of the day, the owners can cry all day about how much money they losing but they not out there playing the game and making their teams as valuable as they are....admittedly they do a lot of behind the scenes business but how much work does an owner have to put in if a nigga like LeBron plays for ur team?? And if u don't have a LeBron on ur team, as an owner, u still caking off whatever talent u have n ur team.....its all bullshit
 
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major pain;3712367 said:
You must not understand whats going on here.

The owners are claiming they arent making money. In fact, they are saying on a whole they are LOSING 100s of millions a year. The union/players are saying that the figures are not completely accurate. This is why the CBA is so important to both sides.

no, i dont believe the owners nor respect what they're doing

Monizzle14;3712327 said:
lmao but what slave was offered 50% of their plantation owners salary? what slave owner had a voice in the paper? my ancestors were not even counted as a full person during slavery. some of yall niggas don't understand about comprimise and shit and good luck getting jobs without being able to comprimise. just because you agree to a deal that isn't 100% what you want doesn't mean your a house nigga it just means you are doing a little thing called negotiating.

these plantation owner metaphors are played the fuck out tho. niggas need to stop giving the players sympathy just because most the players are black. because after the fact most the nba is black folks i cant relate to most of these spoiled niggas/overpaid past prime white boys. hell ill take the nba minimum wage any day over what im making for my college job trina make it out this bitch and trina get a job next year. hell the average person black white or blue cant even afford a decent seat to watch these players live.

example of someone who doesn't understand at all

eyes low;3712382 said:
these guys are getting a better deal than the nfl players and the nfl is 100x bigger, And thats the way it is the owner of a company is always gonna make more than the employee, the owners are putting money into the league the players arent

NBA should go out like bitches cause NFL did ?
 
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rap doctor;3712394 said:
no, i dont believe the owners nor respect what they're doing

What is it you think they are doing?

Its pretty easily recognized that most teams are losing money. HOW MUCH is the question. They are reporting one figure, but it doesnt always make sense. Hell, when you're dealing with these multi-million dollar budgets its all just moving numbers back and forth in an attempt to balance the books.
 
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millionares arguing with billionares about money...interest me not....I just wanna see some ball
 
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major pain;3712406 said:
What is it you think they are doing?

Its pretty easily recognized that most teams are losing money. HOW MUCH is the question. They are reporting one figure, but it doesnt always make sense. Hell, when you're dealing with these multi-million dollar budgets its all just moving numbers back and forth in an attempt to balance the books.

Dont rob the players because you're doing bad business. You cant change the rules to benefit you whenever things don't go your way. Figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it!
 
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supaman4321;3712259 said:
how dare you think i give two fucks about these niggas livelihood, if KD ain't shooting a ball then no fucks are given about him. point blank period and that's my favorite player so you can imagine how i feel about the rest of these niggas

well then you shouldnt really be commenting on something you dont give a fuck about then should you?
 
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fock that slave shit, niggas shoulda listened to kobe and took the damn deal...

i knew it was a WRAP then they said, off season drug testing tho..
 
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yroholla;3712391 said:
Fact: the Players make the game what it is today while the owners are sittin on more millions than the players....we talking about players who will eventually be an afterthought and passed up on as they age while the same old ass owners still making money off them...we can't judge the players aand say "well they still make x amount of dollars" and not hold owners to the same standards...ain't no pension plans for NBA players...they can get injured any given day and their stock plummets soon as their contract is up if the injury persists...and some even sooner if they don't have a long term contracts.....at the end of the day, the owners can cry all day about how much money they losing but they not out there playing the game and making their teams as valuable as they are....admittedly they do a lot of behind the scenes business but how much work does an owner have to put in if a nigga like LeBron plays for ur team?? And if u don't have a LeBron on ur team, as an owner, u still caking off whatever talent u have n ur team.....its all bullshit

co-sign. players window to make money is smaller than these owners who can sit on their ass for years and cake up where the average player has about 5-10 years to get rich and cash out.
 
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rap doctor;3712439 said:
Dont rob the players because you're doing bad business. You cant change the rules to benefit you whenever things don't go your way. Figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it!

Oh I'm not disagreeing with you. Just wondering if you understood what the dynamics are here. The owners are trying to fuck over the players as much as possible because they arent making as much as they used to. I think they are cooking the books to make shit look worse so they can say 'look we're already losing money so we cant give you any more'. The players are calling bullshit on the owners, but the owners have the upper hand. It seems the players are going to call their bluff, but the only result at this point that I can foresee is everyone losing with the players losing the most.

What I think needs to happen is an independent audit of all franchises since the last CBA to see just how much is being lost here. Problem is that will take a hell of a long time and it may not turn out for the best but at least more of the truth will come out.
 
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Tommy bilfiger;3712473 said:
Rap doctor is makin no sense .Robbing the players of what?

Nba would still have the highest min salary of any league and has guaranteed contracts for bums who can last thru 2 ten day contracts

What other league can you get paid 472,000 pro rated without bein drafted,or playing longer than a month?

Gilbert arenas signed a 111 million dolla contract and missed 2 full seasons and fell off and still will get every penny in the nfl he would been got cut

Fuck outta here none of these niggas gettin "robbed" they lettin people gas em up and now they will get sonned to oblivion systematically and financially

shut your cooning ass up hoe
 
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The owners are business men who invested millions of dollars into their business or franchizes.

Players come and go. The business owner is going to always make more money as they take all of the risks.

If NBA players lose the guaranteed contracts they will see how cuthroat this sh*t can be.

Nickas like Eddie Curry, Arenas etc who had those major deals and never really played would've been cut with the quickness in the NFL.
 
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d.green;3712518 said:
The owners are business men who invested millions of dollars into their business or franchizes.

Players come and go. The business owner is going to always make more money as they take all of the risks.

If NBA players lose the guaranteed contracts they will see how cuthroat this sh*t can be.

Nickas like Eddie Curry, Arenas etc who had those major deals and never really played would've been cut with the quickness in the NFL.

which side are you on? because yes you are right players come and go and the business owner will always make more. so doesnt that mean that the players should get paid more since they have less time to do it?
 
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Monizzle14;3712327 said:
lmao but what slave was offered 50% of their plantation owners salary? what slave owner had a voice in the paper? my ancestors were not even counted as a full person during slavery. some of yall niggas don't understand about comprimise and shit and good luck getting jobs without being able to comprimise. just because you agree to a deal that isn't 100% what you want doesn't mean your a house nigga it just means you are doing a little thing called negotiating.

these plantation owner metaphors are played the fuck out tho. niggas need to stop giving the players sympathy just because most the players are black. because after the fact most the nba is black folks i cant relate to most of these spoiled niggas/overpaid past prime white boys. hell ill take the nba minimum wage any day over what im making for my college job trina make it out this bitch and trina get a job next year. hell the average person black white or blue cant even afford a decent seat to watch these players live.

This sounds like a black male that plays Hockey^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SMH
 
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major pain;3712480 said:
What I think needs to happen is an independent audit of all franchises since the last CBA to see just how much is being lost here. Problem is that will take a hell of a long time and it may not turn out for the best but at least more of the truth will come out.
Like the NFL owners the NBA owners aren't trying to here that shit. They have too much to hide and would be exposed.
 
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