Nas Lost (Ghostwriters)

[StillFaggyAF]

When you got a generation that was born around the same time Illmatic & It Was Written dropped what do you expect ? Nas don't even write, everything comes off the dome. The public perception is weighing Nas to the likes of cats like Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, Drake, Rick Ross, T.I. etc. so when the quality of the music transcends ANYTHING that those artists have produced in the last 10 years folks gonna try to come up w/ an excuse as to why SMH.

There is NO artist in the history of hip-hop that has been doin it as long as Nas with the technical prowess in their lyrics as dude. IMO I see it more as a compliment for how strong the quality of music/album is that people would go out of their way to say you got ghostwriters LOLOL.

what does that have to do with anything

 

[buttuh_b]

How the hell yall see me on twitter if you don't follow me? What's yall twitters?

 

[Vader_F_Kennedy]

niggaz called her JR mafias jump off lol

 

[buttuh_b]

 

[sniperk]

On a side note, I was kind of surprised when I found out Craig G. wrote the battle rhymes for Eminem in 8 mile...

If Eminem uses a ghostwriter once in awhile then maybe Nas does too?

 

[Valentinez A. Kaiser]

Reading Stic Man's response to the rumors pretty much somes it up

allhiphop.com/2012/08/14/hip-hop-rumors-stic-man-of-dead-prez-speaks-on-nas-ghostwiting-rumors/

For those that don't click lanks

 

[jono]

So nobody gonna flame the cat the wrote the blog? FWMJ?

You might want to...

I've been reading his tweets and Hampton's. Seems he at least is getting some kind of kick out of all this. I'm sure more people have read their blogs and follow them on twitter now than they did before.

In any event their boy Jay Electronica has left their asses flapping in the wind because he has yet to corroborate their story (some good personal friend he is).

I said it before this shit is like a steroid scandal, once you put that shit in the air people grasp on and run with it.

The whole defense was put in less that 150 characters by one of FWMJ's followers who said "they [hampton & FWMJ] don't have anything to gain by lying but Nas does"

Its that simple for the simple-minded, its true because denying it benefits you. "Of course Stic & Jay are going to say it isn't because they don't want to embarrass Nas"....that's why this shit is so insulting.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Lol Dream hampton was getting destroyed on Twitter

 

[hiphop12345]

Here's what stic.man says of his contribution to Untitled:

DX: How did you start working with Nas for this album?

Stic.man: We knew Nas for a minute, [since when] we were on Columbia. This particular time, he just reached out. He actually reached out to M1 [click to read] and askedI dont even think he knew who did our beats. M1 hit me and said that Nas wanted us to come to the studio and hang out, write, produce, whatever, do some collab work. But he wasnt real specific on what he wanted us to do, so I assumed he wanted us to rap on something. Just cause thats what people usually use our brand for, because of what we have to say.

So I went out to L.A. with my pad, ready to rap my ass off with one of my favorite emcees. [Laughs] He was totally like, Yo, I want yall to produce this. Do yall have any idea how you could develop this particular thought? I want to get at Fox News, got any beats for that? I found out over a few days that he wasnt really interested in us rapping or being featured, but he wanted a sound and he wanted some help in conceptualizing his ideas. Thats pretty much what I do with dead prez, so M1 just sort of fell back, like, Knock it out. Make the beats happen. Thats pretty how we got into the mood. I ended up doing five or six things musically that he wanted for his record. I think he ended up choosing three. But it was good. Hed say, Heres a concept, and we just started building on it. Id play some tracks, I made some shit on the spot. Some stuff I produced, like the Untitled song, Nas hit me two days before his deadline. He said, I need some shit about [Louis] Farrakhan. Hook me up with a track, nigga. [Laughs] I did something that I felt, I wasnt sure if he was going to fuck with it or not. I sent it to him, I hit him late that night, and he was like, Its done and mixed. Before I even heard where he was going with it, it was mixed and ready to go. You know how industry shit goes, sometimes you dont always [record music] in the same room at the same time.

We did Sly Fox [click to read] in the same room same time, and Untitled I did in Atlanta. The Youre Not Alone record, as far as all the singing and the beat, I was working on it for the dead prez Information Age album. But I thought, Nas would kill this shit.

Yea Stic man wrote this lol:

reading is fundemental

Spell fundamental correctly.

 

[_Goldie_]

This is about da dumbest shit Ive heard in a min. By this theory, everybody has ghostwriters. Every artist gets ideas and concepts from other artist and producers in the studio. Any rapper on here knows that. Erebody be in da studio throwin ideas at each other ¨Nah, I think u should say dis¨ ¨What about if u say da hook like dis¨ . Cmon man. Thats not ghostwritting. smh

 

[JokerzWyld]

This thread was hilarious until the trolls came in.

Anyways, many rappers have co-writers and it's not necessarily because they need ideas, it's because the label wants songs to sound a certain way or have a certain format. Even Nas himself alluded to this in "We Major" with Kanye West:

I heard the beat and I ain't know what to write

First line should it be about the hoes or the ice?

Fo-fo's or Black Christ? Both flows'd be nice

Rap about big paper or the black man plight

At the studio console, asked my man to the right

What this verse sound like, should I freestyle or write?

He's been exposed his process. This isn't a secret or new.

 

[blazn101]

ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTRONICA ‏@JayElectronica

Nas is one of the Greatest Ever. never has and never will need a ghostwriter. that man’s pen and legacy is without question.

 

[Igot5onit]

Real niggas didn't believe that bitch to begin with.

 

[Valentinez A. Kaiser]

ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTRONICA ‏@JayElectronica

Nas is one of the Greatest Ever. never has and never will need a ghostwriter. that man’s pen and legacy is without question.

And there you have it folks.....

Click on track #17 "Untitled" for the opening 21 seconds
http://www.getrightmusic.com/mixtape/post/dj_ah_jay_electronica_best_of_so_far

 

[buttuh_b]

Here comes Kim Osorio right on time like I predicted. Another scorned industry smut.

 

[Garv*]

Man people really be hating on Nas.

Same shit was happening during the Jay beef.

 

[buttuh_b]

This what I said on twitter:

Nas is truly the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar of rap. Media don't like his personality because he doesn't dicklick so they try to bury him.

 

[jono]

Kim Osorio is spreading it now lol...

Its hilarious Dream Hampton is playing victim, and Osorio is trying to agree yet downplay it:

@kimosorio1

But let me just say this... A true "ghostwriter" MUST deny it.. Otherwise, they wouldn't be a ghostwriter, right?

^ defeats the purpose of even arguing. Nothing anyone says will right the wrong.

I do find it weird that everyone who is spreading this has some sort of beef towards Nas or they want to big up someone else by tearing Nas down.

Lol Everybody wants their 15 minutes of fame.

 

[DarthRozay]

damn so somebody wrote the verse for him on triple beam dreams!? smh that verse was fire

and she aint bad lookin if you like that natrual unkept look

I heard Officer William writes Nas' verses for him on every song he does a feature on. Heard that he wrote most of Life Is Good, everyone in MMG's shit, and most of Jay's next album. They don't come to him for his great rap skills, but because he is the ultimate actor and fiction writer IN THE GAME! If you want some raps about shit you never did, you call Big Willy, he talks to some of the people he knew from being a c.o. and he turns that into some raps. Why do you think every rapper in the game goes to him? even eminem goes to him for real music and melodic hooks that are emotional and that you can feel!

 

[Garv*]

Man at least we know we going to get some fire music from this, Nas is great in turning adversity to great music.