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ustreet_monsta;3564073 said:Cuz Nas changed his style up after Illmatic to be more like BIG, Raekwon, Ghostface, & Jay.
Pac called him out on it.
BIG called him out on it.
Nas admitted it on The Rise and Fall.
Lab Baby;3564070 said:Wait, what???
Chasin Benjamins;3564150 said:Lol.. look at you PLAYER!!!..... aren't chu quite promiscuous... lol smh
tompetrez3;3564180 said:no those are all the leftover creampies that Jay Z is permantely eating with his wife. Nas didnt wife Carmen but Jay Z put a ring on a bitch who slept with 2 OPENLY bisexual men. like i always say everytime Jay Z kisses that whore he is tasting Ras B ass. when all else fail at least Nas got the bitch preggos. Jay Z got his bitch carrying around a fake baby bump. Lydell is the nigga that had Bey preggos back when Jay Z was sampling annie
Tommy bilfiger;3564187 said:Bottom Line is this
If u wanna hear music that will help he worst insomniacs go to sleep and raps about moons,tombs,rocks,quasars and king tut bump nas
If u wanna hear a rapper wit the illest flow since Biggie da GOAT who talks about bangin mad hoes,celebrating life and makin dough listen to jigga
No point in debating the past jigga won
Chasin Benjamins;3564247 said:What's the ratio between promethazine/codeine and sprite you niggas using out there?
Oh... and does it really taste better with jolly ranchers?
Let me see if i can do what you do?
Your mom use to fuck Jimmy Hendrix, Basquait, LL Cool J, Sam Bowie, Leon Spinx, Olu Dara, Coach John Thompson, Malcolm 'Red' Little's barber, and a slew of other entertainers/athletes before she accidentally had you...
You see how that works?
ustreet_monsta;3564176 said:Yall are on some female shit with these unsubstantiated running lists of who's fucking who.
Take that shit to The Powder Room or Mediatakeout.
Who Cares???;3563359 said:What real story? I been in NYC damn near my whole life, so what real story you know? That you can type a bullshit opinion that majority in NYC will laugh at? Yoi niggas just type shit to be typing.
FuriousOne;3563475 said:Brooklyn rides for Jay and Big. I don't know how queens views Nas or 50 or how the numbers are sales wise with each artist in each borough. I know dipset ran Harlem and had great influence in Brooklyn too . More people are purest then you would expect and don't really check for Jay at all. With that said, WTT been getting heavy rotation in bk. People be saying the rap seen is dead in NY but i don't think they realize that dancehall is a far bigger scene even amongst African Americans. Nas my fav artist but i don't hear too many people checking for him out here.
Also, the reviews were mixed when it came to takeover\Supaugly vs Ether. Many people went with takeover mainly cuz it was a club banger. If you wanna talk about the music in the streets vs the net. Most people don't didn't give a fuck about this beef. Tupac vs Big had way more impact on the publics perception.
tompetrez3;3563671 said:im still trying to figure out why biggie didnt speak on that ballerina dude who fucked his wife and had him saying christopher jr may be pac's child. the biggie/nas spat is peanuts to what was happening on the surface of NY. i dont understand why everybody is beating off on kick in the door when fat ass was begging for Nas help to defeat pac.
ustreet_monsta;3563784 said:I would imagine Biggie didnt address Pac directly cuz:
A) Pac was fake and being used by Jimmy and Suge
B) BIG was running around with the people who shot him
C) Making records about people you have real beef with is gay
On topic tho, since this thread isnt about Nas vs Jay or BIG vs Pac....
BIG was a better battle rapper than Nas and Nas did switch his style up to be more like BIG, Raekwon, and Jay.
'Took home Ready to Die, listened, studied shit'
NothingButTheTruth;3564370 said:Talk to any emcee from NY and they'll let you know the truth. Nobody fucks with Jay.
Busta Rhymes
Camron
Mos Def
Ghostface
Jadakiss
Nas
DMX
50
Styles P
Method Man
Raekwon
LL
etc.
NONE of them put JayZ in their top anything. He's not considered this great rapper that y'all make him out to be OUTSIDE of NY. He's just the good businessman dude who used rap as a hustle. Bar for bar, he's not special at all.
Like I said earlier, he's the Lil Wayne of the 90's. He's good, but fairweather fans put him in that great category because he's the one that takes up the spotlight.
Cosign, Dipset was HUGE. The hottest rap group since Wu. And NY hasn't checked for Jay since Black Album, unless you talking about the goofy dudes that bump the commercial shit. The American Eagle, skinny jeans crew. Then yeah, I have seen them bumpin garbage ass WTT, SMH.
I'm still trying to figure this out. People saying Big will eat Nas in a battle, yet he was asking Nas for bars to hit Pac with.
Biggie was fake, and didn't live ANYTHING he said in his rhymes. Biggie can't battle rap, idk where you got that from. He battled one dude in Pac and lost.
You threw Jay's name in there forgetting that Jay was a secretary during that time ... STOP IT 5! Nas did borrow from Biggie, Rae, and Ghost, but they all did the same to Nas.
Big stole his damn album cover!
The_Invincibles;3564402 said:tommy in here so i know u reason niggas caught feelings...BIG Jay > Nas > Pac
Tommy bilfiger;3561797 said:Exactly
"In 88 u was gettin chased in ya building" - FALSE that ill agree with
"I gave u a style for you to run wit" -
TRU (it was written mafia style hip hop jay used for reasonable doubt jay will cosign he was influence by ob4cl and iww)
"You 36 in a karate class" - FALSE
(and i take tybo jayz - girls girls girl) nas then called him a tybo ho - tru
"Compared to beans u wack"- FALSE
(well in 2000 niggas thought bean was going to carry the roc ) so at 2001 it was a? point
"Eminem murdered you on yo own shit" -FALSE
( do u even rememebr jayz verse on renagades?? man i listen to the royce version more then jayz) man eminem got a source verse of the month for that joint.
And Az's verse>>>>>> nas verse on life a B (
and Az has outshine nas on a bunch of tracks and so?) didnt freeway murk jay on what we do cam ron di d jay on welcome to nyc dmx got jay on money cash hoes shoot even mic geronimo on its time to built outdid jayz it means WHAT?? nothing
Jigga got nas on takeover wit facts
Paul Hate.;3561433 said:
Aint no coming back from a second verse like that man.BIG wouldda destroyed Nas.
The facts are Jay was hurt when Ether dropped Rocafella artist confirmed that. The nigga Jay got on the radio sounding hurt as hell. All Jay did was fuck with the wrong nigga and got his asswhipped.Tommy bilfiger;3561797 said:Exactly
"In 88 u was gettin chased in ya building" - FALSE Actually that is true. The year is wrong but Haitan Jack (the well known rapper extortionist along with Jimmy Henchman) chased Jay through his own projects
"I gave u a style for you to run wit" - FALSE
"You 36 in a karate class" - FALSE again thats sort of true. Jay did take a Tae-Bo class.
"Compared to beans u wack"- FALSE Thats argueable, not overall better but Beans would eat Jay on every track that they where on together. Thats why Jay quit putting Beans on tracks with him.
"Eminem murdered you on yo own shit" -FALSE How is that not true. Everybody knows Em killed that shit.
And Az's verse>>>>>> nas verse on life a B
So that made no sense regardless
Jigga got nas on takeover wit facts
Paul Hate.;3561433 said:
Aint no coming back from a second verse like that man.BIG wouldda destroyed Nas.