Naruto needs to end while it can

[Sourpatch Kid]

Naruto before Shippuden was pretty awesome. Shippuden is aight, but the Sasuke obsession dragged it down tremendously. It shows good shit sometimes though. Dragonball Z all the way up to Frieza is that shit. I still think One Piece is the best of the Big 3.

You haven't read the manga for Bleach and Naruto. Bleach tops them all and Naruto comes in close second, the story is mad ill and only in the show do they drag the Sasuke storyline out so much because theres too many fillers just like bleach. The powers that naruto has now and his ability to have full control over the fox is when that shit will get tough.

 

[arbitration]

You haven't read the manga for Bleach and Naruto. Bleach tops them all and Naruto comes in close second, the story is mad ill and only in the show do they drag the Sasuke storyline out so much because theres too many fillers just like bleach. The powers that naruto has now and his ability to have full control over the fox is when that shit will get tough.

I haven't read the Bleach manga, but Sasuke is cold-blooded in the Naruto manga. He might be more trill than Garra right now, and I for one I cannot wait for him to beat Naruto's bitch ass. However, the character development that happened in Naruto is definitely no longer happening in Shippuden. They haven't touched Rock Lee, Neji, and even Shikumaru no longer gets any shine.

 

[Sourpatch Kid]

I haven't read the Bleach manga, but Sasuke is cold-blooded in the Naruto manga. He might be more trill than Garra right now, and I for one I cannot wait for him to beat Naruto's bitch ass. However, the character development that happened in Naruto is definitely no longer happening in Shippuden. They haven't touched Rock Lee, Neji, and even Shikumaru no longer gets any shine.

I doubt he can with the new abilities that Naruto's learned and now that he's able to use the use the fox's chakra and the fox can no longer take over him. He has some new shit while he looks all firey and can move real quick (pretty much teleportation) like that shit is more powerful than sage mode.

 

[glowy]

Just read spoilers. comments below.

Madara is that nigga. Nagato is part of the Uzumaki clan, meaning him and Naruto are Kin.

 

[MR.CJ]

Just read spoilers. comments below.

Madara is that nigga. Nagato is part of the Uzumaki clan, meaning him and Naruto are Kin.

proof?........

 

[glowy]

proof?........

EDIT: I take that back, spoilers are confirmed.

They are tagged as confirmed, but others are saying they aren't. /shrug.

Source: http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64083

 

[Sourpatch Kid]

Yea, I read the manga's on bleachexile but Naruto finally meets his mother, I think her names minato or is that the father, eh anyway, he learns how to have full control of the fox with the help of Killerbee (the black guy that raps all the time and is also a jinchuuriki host like naruto) and he drains all of the fox's chakra so granting him full authority and also making him ALOT more powerful but he still can't control the powers quite yet. I don't know where Kabuto is but he'll come into play somewhere in the manga. Sasuke's still playing rebel gone wrong and Gai Lee beat that shark fin soup dude with some new crazy ass attack. I didn't know that Naruto's father can also teleport so I'm pretty sure Naruto's gonna learn that ability which can go with the rasengan's and sage mode which also makes him faster than Sasuke.

 

[DarkRaiden]

I agree it needs to end. IMO the manga and the storyline in general sucks. Ever since Jiraiya and Itachi died, it ain't been the same. Then Sasue and Naruto got all these wack powers from nowhere and they still ain't fucking with J-man or Itachi.

 

[Sourpatch Kid]

I agree it needs to end. IMO the manga and the storyline in general sucks. Ever since Jiraiya and Itachi died, it ain't been the same. Then Sasue and Naruto got all these wack powers from nowhere and they still ain't fucking with J-man or Itachi.

Wow, you can't be serious, Naruto right now is stronger than Jiraiya and he's almost surpassing his father. Sasuke on the other hand, I don't really know about because Itachi practically let him kill him and then gave him his powers.

 

[DarkRaiden]

Wow, you can't be serious, Naruto right now is stronger than Jiraiya and he's almost surpassing his father. Sasuke on the other hand, I don't really know about because Itachi practically let him kill him and then gave him his powers.

I still see no proof that Naruto can touch Jiraiya, and imo Jiraiya would destroy Naruto in a fight and stand a good chance against the 4th. Jiraiya's jutsus, his taijutsu, strength, intelligence, etc.>>>>>>>>>>Naruto's.

 

[ItzGravitation]

I still see no proof that Naruto can touch Jiraiya, and imo Jiraiya would destroy Naruto in a fight and stand a good chance against the 4th. Jiraiya's jutsus, his taijutsu, strength, intelligence, etc.>>>>>>>>>>Naruto's.

Naruto>>>Jiraiya.

fact.

Pain killed Jaraiya and Naruto beat Pain.

 

[DarkRaiden]

Naruto>>>Jiraiya.
fact.
Pain killed Jaraiya and Naruto beat Pain.

No Pain killed Jiraiya cause he lacked info,and Pain admitted that Jiraiya >Pain.

Naruto had intel, knew Pain's secret, and God Pain(Deva) was incapacitated when he got there. Plus Pain was tired from destroying the village and he still pinned Naruto down and said something like "Don't worry I won;t kill you Jinchuuriki." Pain had him dead, but didn't do it b/c he needed the Kyuubi. So tired Pain>Naruto and Jiraya >Pain, so Jiraiya>Naruto.

 

[Sourpatch Kid]

No Pain killed Jiraiya cause he lacked info,and Pain admitted that Jiraiya >Pain.

Naruto had intel, knew Pain's secret, and God Pain(Deva) was incapacitated when he got there. Plus Pain was tired from destroying the village and he still pinned Naruto down and said something like "Don't worry I won;t kill you Jinchuuriki." Pain had him dead, but didn't do it b/c he needed the Kyuubi. So tired Pain>Naruto and Jiraya >Pain, so Jiraiya>Naruto.

You're right about that but in away both Naruto and Pain had been incapacitated being that Naruto had to deal with repressing the Jinchuuriki and that was his biggest flaw. Given the opportunity that he now has complete control over the fox and in addition to Jiraiya's new abilities with his, he's alot stronger than Jiraiya would have ever been, the question is, is naruto stronger than minato? Sasuke has his own abilities added to Itachi's most powerful move with a little bit of Orochimaru which shows he's alot stronger. Jiraiya and Itachi are alot older than Naruto and Sasuke, remember that and also they weren't as strong as them two at that age so their really is no comparison. Naruto and Sasuke will be alot stronger than those before them.

 

[DarkRaiden]

You're right about that but in away both Naruto and Pain had been incapacitated being that Naruto had to deal with repressing the Jinchuuriki and that was his biggest flaw. Given the opportunity that he now has complete control over the fox and in addition to Jiraiya's new abilities with his, he's alot stronger than Jiraiya would have ever been, the question is, is naruto stronger than minato? Sasuke has his own abilities added to Itachi's most powerful move with a little bit of Orochimaru which shows he's alot stronger. Jiraiya and Itachi are alot older than Naruto and Sasuke, remember that and also they weren't as strong as them two at that age so their really is no comparison. Naruto and Sasuke will be alot stronger than those before them.

I agree that Jiraiya wasn't as strong at 15, but he' stronger now(not dead obviously) and that's what matters. And yes, Itachi was stronger than Sasuke at 15, he killed the entire Uchiha clan, beat Deidara in like 2 seconds, beat Orochimaru, and had Madara scared of him by this time. Itachi always was and always will be stronger than Sasuke.

 

[ItzGravitation]

No Pain killed Jiraiya cause he lacked info,and Pain admitted that Jiraiya >Pain.

Naruto had intel, knew Pain's secret, and God Pain(Deva) was incapacitated when he got there. Plus Pain was tired from destroying the village and he still pinned Naruto down and said something like "Don't worry I won;t kill you Jinchuuriki." Pain had him dead, but didn't do it b/c he needed the Kyuubi. So tired Pain>Naruto and Jiraya >Pain, so Jiraiya>Naruto.

Jaraiya=Dead

Naruto=Alive

Naruto completed Sage training

Jaraiya did not.

Naruto>>>Jaraiya.

 

[DarkRaiden]

Jaraiya=Dead
Naruto=Alive
Naruto completed Sage training
Jaraiya did not.
Naruto>>>Jaraiya.

Jiraiya has Swamp jutsu that defeated Giant Snake, Naruto does not
Jiraiya = infinite sage mode with Ma and Pa, Naruto = limited sage mode
Jiraya has hair defense and offensive (both A-rank I believe) Naruto doesn't
Jiraiya has fire toad stomach summoning(jutsu used on Itachi and Kisame), Naruto doesn't
Jiraiya has a quote from Pain saying he would have won, Naruto has a quote comforting him that he won't die against Pain
Jiraiya was considered for Hokage, Naruto still isnt
Jiraiya has a 9 in speed, Taijutsu, and strength, and intelligence, Naruto has like a 6 for these stats.
Jiraiya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto.

 

[ItzGravitation]

Jiraiya has Swamp jutsu that defeated Giant Snake, Naruto does not

Jiraiya = infinite sage mode with Ma and Pa, Naruto = limited sage mode

Jiraya has hair defense and offensive (both A-rank I believe) Naruto doesn't

Jiraiya has fire toad stomach summoning(jutsu used on Itachi and Kisame), Naruto doesn't

Jiraiya has a quote from Pain saying he would have won, Naruto has a quote comforting him that he won't die against Pain

Jiraiya was considered for Hokage, Naruto still isnt

Jiraiya has a 9 in speed, Taijutsu, and strength, and intelligence, Naruto has like a 6 for these stats.

Jiraiya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto.

the student always surpasses the master and Naruto did it when he defeated Pain.

Al these things you say Jaraiya has he had.

dude is dead and cant compete with Naruto currently.

Dude mastered Sage mode(Jaraiya couldnt even at such an old age).

Plus dude controlls the fox now.

Its simple logic that if i can do something you in our profession, i am better at what we do.

Same applies for the ninja world Naruto lives in.

 

[DarkRaiden]

the student always surpasses the master and Naruto did it when he defeated Pain.
Al these things you say Jaraiya has he had.
dude is dead and cant compete with Naruto currently.
Dude mastered Sage mode(Jaraiya couldnt even at such an old age).
Plus dude controlls the fox now.

Its simple logic that if i can do something you in our profession, i am better at what we do.
Same applies for the ninja world Naruto lives in.

But Naruto didn't defeat Pain even with extra help that Jiraiya lacked. He lost then the Fox broke him out. Jiraiya was Kage candidate, Naruto isn't even looked at, hell Kakashi was looked at before Naruto. Plus Jiraiya can seal the fox that naruto controls, Jiraya's Sage mode is better cause it's infinite, he has jutsu which I described that Naruto lacks. He's smarter,stronger, faster. He's better period. And him being dead doesn't mean Naruto is better. Six Path Sage(created moon, seal Ten tails) is dead but Naruto ain't near him. 4th is dead and Naruto ain't near him, Itachi is dead and Naruto aiin't near him.

Jiraiya>>>>>>>>>>Naruto in Seals, Jutsu, Speed, Strength, intelligence, experience. Jiraiya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto period.

 

[ItzGravitation]

But Naruto didn't defeat Pain even with extra help that Jiraiya lacked. He lost then the Fox broke him out. Jiraiya was Kage candidate, Naruto isn't even looked at, hell Kakashi was looked at before Naruto. Plus Jiraiya can seal the fox that naruto controls, Jiraya's Sage mode is better cause it's infinite, he has jutsu which I described that Naruto lacks. He's smarter,stronger, faster. He's better period. And him being dead doesn't mean Naruto is better. Six Path Sage(created moon, seal Ten tails) is dead but Naruto ain't near him. 4th is dead and Naruto ain't near him, Itachi is dead and Naruto aiin't near him.

Jiraiya>>>>>>>>>>Naruto in Seals, Jutsu, Speed, Strength, intelligence, experience. Jiraiya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto period.

First off, Naruto defeated Pain.

The Fox can no longer be sealed/controlled by anyone but Naruto.

Naruto remains a teen and Jariya as a teen was not looked at as candidate to be Hokage.

That decision has nothing to do with sills but instead wisdom andexperience.

But even some of the people wanted Naruto to be Hokage after defeating Pain.

Infinite Chakra and iving is better than being dead,

All those Jutsus are useless against Naruto anyway.

So if current Naruto battled Jaraiya before he died Naruto would win.

Hell even Sasuke right now will beat Jaraiya before he died.

Naruto controlling the foxes chakra>>Sage mode.

and right now Naruto>>>4th when he died.

 

[DarkRaiden]

First off, Naruto defeated Pain.
The Fox can no longer be sealed/controlled by anyone but Naruto.
Naruto remains a teen and Jariya as a teen was not looked at as candidate to be Hokage.
That decision has nothing to do with sills but instead wisdom andexperience.
But even some of the people wanted Naruto to be Hokage after defeating Pain.
Infinite Chakra and iving is better than being dead,

All those Jutsus are useless against Naruto anyway.

So if current Naruto battled Jaraiya before he died Naruto would win.
Hell even Sasuke right now will beat Jaraiya before he died.
Naruto controlling the foxes chakra>>Sage mode.
and right now Naruto>>>4th when he died.

Jiraiya can SEAL i's chakra as in Naruto can't use it no matter how much control he has.
And Swamp= Naruto sinks and is stuck or dies.
Toad stomach = Naruto is stuck, trapped and dies. Jiraya wins easily.