My first recorded sermon on the importance of being prudent!

[Bodhi]

The ones outside of the ark in Noah's day believed that judgment would never come. They thought that they would continue to eat, drink, and marry. But when God broke up all the fountains of the great deep and opened the windows of heaven, the expectation and hope of all those outside the ark perished. God always gets the last word my brother. There's no escaping this fact. Therefore it is imperative for all the people who are outside of the ark today, to wake up and realize that there is a God in heaven who loves them and has provided a way for them to be let in the ark of safety; which is only through belief and confession in the finished work of Christ Jesus our LORD.

If god truly loved them, he would not have created destruction to annihilate his own people

"4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=NIV

your god seems to be the worst hypocrite in history

4-6 No carved gods of any size, shape, or form of anything whatever, whether of things that fly or walk or swim. Don’t bow down to them and don’t serve them because I am God, your God, and I’m a most jealous God, punishing the children for any sins their parents pass on to them to the third, and yes, even to the fourth generation of those who hate me. But I’m unswervingly loyal to the thousands who love me and keep my commandments.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 20:5&version=MSG

 

[alissowack]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. I hope you are not hinging everything on Phillipians 2:12 because there are some passages that "contradict" it. Ephesian 2:8, and 9 for starters is one that suggests that it is not works at all in which we are saved. Galatians 2:16 is saying we are not justified by observing the law but in our faith in Jesus. Romans 4:5 says our faith, not works, is credited as righteousness.

Now, so I don't seem one-sided, there are verses that suggest that work is important, too. But, you can't think that faith and works can't co-exist. They can, but you can't think that faith is not precedent over work. Do you "work" in order to gain something; hoping that God will favor you more by what you do; that you get a bigger reward for your deeds? Or, do you trust that God has already done the work so you faithfully preach what has been accomplished through Jesus?

God has already spoken, so why would He back what you...or even I...say? We are merely messengers. The only one that can ultimately make that claim is Jesus for he was The Word.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Many disasters would be enough to cause me to leave if there weren't any other options that would better suit my needs

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I'd have to make a decision based on what the person at my doorstep, a complete stranger, is telling me

Why do you suppose that the people in Noah's' day refused to believe that judgment was coming? He preached for 120 years and only had 7 people believe him. Likewise, Lot had 1 night to warn people and he was only able to convince 3 people. They also belonged to his own household. Is it the message that's hard to believe or the messenger?

I don't believe in the flood story but in this case, it's the message that is hard to believe, I guess. You could say either, or though. Going along with the flood story however, they probably didn't believe him because they were knowledgeable enough to know that it would not be possible for Noah to take all animals on the earth into the ark, or something like that.

It all boils down to repentance to be honest. People don't want to believe because they don't want to repent. People would rather continue to live in darkness, hoping that their sins will never be exposed by the light. But God is clear when He emphatically states that, "When a wicked man dieth, his expectation shall perish: and the hope of unjust men perisheth." (Proverbs 11:7)

I do not believe there is a god that we have to repent to. Just because I do not believe in god does not mean that I would live in "darkness", or I guess we can agree to use the word "ignorance" or "selfishness".

"By oneself is evil done,

by oneself defiled,

by oneself it’s left undone,

by self alone one purified.

Purity, impurity on oneself depend,

no one can purify another."
http://www.buddhanet.net/dhammapada/d_self.htm

I prefer life btw but I've never experienced death so I have to go with what I've known

Living in darkness is living in sin my brother. Mankind naturally wants to live in sin/darkness because of the sin nature that every soul has. But God has made a way, for those who want to know and live the truth, to be set free. That way is faith in Jesus Christ. But without your belief that He exists as God Almighty, faith in Him will be impossible.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

The ones outside of the ark in Noah's day believed that judgment would never come. They thought that they would continue to eat, drink, and marry. But when God broke up all the fountains of the great deep and opened the windows of heaven, the expectation and hope of all those outside the ark perished. God always gets the last word my brother. There's no escaping this fact. Therefore it is imperative for all the people who are outside of the ark today, to wake up and realize that there is a God in heaven who loves them and has provided a way for them to be let in the ark of safety; which is only through belief and confession in the finished work of Christ Jesus our LORD.

If god truly loved them, he would not have created destruction to annihilate his own people

"4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=NIV

your god seems to be the worst hypocrite in history

4-6 No carved gods of any size, shape, or form of anything whatever, whether of things that fly or walk or swim. Don’t bow down to them and don’t serve them because I am God, your God, and I’m a most jealous God, punishing the children for any sins their parents pass on to them to the third, and yes, even to the fourth generation of those who hate me. But I’m unswervingly loyal to the thousands who love me and keep my commandments.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 20:5&version=MSG

The lake of fire was created for the devil and his angels. It wasn't created for human beings.

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels." Matthew 25:41

But because sin was introduced into a world that God created "very good", all those who choose to follow their father the devil, will also occupy the lake of fire forever and ever. You see my brother there are 2 fathers in this world. Thus, there are 2 types of children in this world. While God is the creator of all, He is not the father of all. God is only the father of those who have been born again into His heavenly kingdom. The devil is the father of all those who willfully choose not to repent of their sins, turn to the true and living God, and receive salvation.

So God in His love executes His judgments by doing what is just, holy, and right. Even in His wrath His love is demonstrated. How you say? By protecting those who love Him from those who don't. The Bible tells us, "Let favor be showed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD." (Isaiah 26:10) Even if God let unrepentant sinners into heaven, they would still act like they always acted. Why? Because they never wanted a new heart to begin with.

So my prayer for you my brother is that your heart will continue to be pricked by the LORD GOD and that you will bow down to His will by confessing that you are a lost sinner in need of a Savior! Amen.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. I hope you are not hinging everything on Phillipians 2:12 because there are some passages that "contradict" it. Ephesian 2:8, and 9 for starters is one that suggests that it is not works at all in which we are saved. Galatians 2:16 is saying we are not justified by observing the law but in our faith in Jesus. Romans 4:5 says our faith, not works, is credited as righteousness.

Now, so I don't seem one-sided, there are verses that suggest that work is important, too. But, you can't think that faith and works can't co-exist. They can, but you can't think that faith is not precedent over work. Do you "work" in order to gain something; hoping that God will favor you more by what you do; that you get a bigger reward for your deeds? Or, do you trust that God has already done the work so you faithfully preach what has been accomplished through Jesus?

God has already spoken, so why would He back what you...or even I...say? We are merely messengers. The only one that can ultimately make that claim is Jesus for he was The Word.

When I brought up Philippians 2:12, I never had a "works" salvation in mind. Working out your own salvation with fear and trembling has more to do with repentance from ALL sin and continual confession and belief in the finished work of Christ. Fear in the living God and trembling at the awfulness of our sin makes a repentant believer strive day in and day out to crucify the flesh and yield to the spirit, thus we work out our own walk and relationship with the LORD for our salvation. That is all predicated on faith that the blood of Jesus Christ is all we need to be cleansed from all sin and forgiven of all our unrighteousness. So I agree with you my friend. Amen.

And of course God has already spoken, that's why I speak what He has spoken unto others. Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Therefore, out of the well spring of life that dwells in all born-again believers, knowledge, wisdom, and instruction should pour forth at all times. Thus, when I speak I regurgitate the living word out of my mouth because it's what I eat day in and day out. That's all my brother.

 

[alissowack]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. But, don't you think that for one moment you may be "testing" God (Deuteronomy 6:16)? It's one thing to read from the page what God says and another to have your own perception on what God says. Satan knows the Bible, too you know and tried to use Psalm 91:11-12 against Jesus.

There is nothing straight-forward about the Scriptures. Once you begin to think you know what the Bible says, you find that you are woefully mistaken. Many of us go through this and I find is concerning that it seems you feel as if you have God figured out...that you have all the answers.

 

[Bodhi]

The ones outside of the ark in Noah's day believed that judgment would never come. They thought that they would continue to eat, drink, and marry. But when God broke up all the fountains of the great deep and opened the windows of heaven, the expectation and hope of all those outside the ark perished. God always gets the last word my brother. There's no escaping this fact. Therefore it is imperative for all the people who are outside of the ark today, to wake up and realize that there is a God in heaven who loves them and has provided a way for them to be let in the ark of safety; which is only through belief and confession in the finished work of Christ Jesus our LORD.

If god truly loved them, he would not have created destruction to annihilate his own people

"4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=NIV

your god seems to be the worst hypocrite in history

4-6 No carved gods of any size, shape, or form of anything whatever, whether of things that fly or walk or swim. Don’t bow down to them and don’t serve them because I am God, your God, and I’m a most jealous God, punishing the children for any sins their parents pass on to them to the third, and yes, even to the fourth generation of those who hate me. But I’m unswervingly loyal to the thousands who love me and keep my commandments.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 20:5&version=MSG

The lake of fire was created for the devil and his angels. It wasn't created for human beings.

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels." Matthew 25:41

But because sin was introduced into a world that God created "very good", all those who choose to follow their father the devil, will also occupy the lake of fire forever and ever. You see my brother there are 2 fathers in this world. Thus, there are 2 types of children in this world. While God is the creator of all, He is not the father of all. God is only the father of those who have been born again into His heavenly kingdom. The devil is the father of all those who willfully choose not to repent of their sins, turn to the true and living God, and receive salvation.

So God in His love executes His judgments by doing what is just, holy, and right. Even in His wrath His love is demonstrated. How you say? By protecting those who love Him from those who don't. The Bible tells us, "Let favor be showed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD." (Isaiah 26:10) Even if God let unrepentant sinners into heaven, they would still act like they always acted. Why? Because they never wanted a new heart to begin with.

So my prayer for you my brother is that your heart will continue to be pricked by the LORD GOD and that you will bow down to His will by confessing that you are a lost sinner in need of a Savior! Amen.

If god is omniscient, he knew humans would eventually end up in hell when he created it thus hell was created also for the human souls

If god is the creator of everything, he also introduced sin and the devil. How can he create evil and create humans that are naturally susceptible to evil, and punish them for their shortcomings, then, being all wise, tells them in his holy book that true love keeps no record of wrong doing but always protects when he himself has done neither?

 

[Lost]

That the question of free will. Would you have your freedom taken away, so you can only do good? Or do you like having the choice to bad once in a while? Angels have to follow God, in the way you described. A world without evil, called heaven. So free will is to blame.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. But, don't you think that for one moment you may be "testing" God (Deuteronomy 6:16)? It's one thing to read from the page what God says and another to have your own perception on what God says. Satan knows the Bible, too you know and tried to use Psalm 91:11-12 against Jesus.

There is nothing straight-forward about the Scriptures. Once you begin to think you know what the Bible says, you find that you are woefully mistaken. Many of us go through this and I find is concerning that it seems you feel as if you have God figured out...that you have all the answers.

No I don't have God figured out my brother. How you got that perception from what I said is puzzling.

But let's go back to what the Bible says for a second. "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things." (Mark 13:23) Those are the words of our LORD when He spoke to the disciples on the Mount of Olives concerning the end of the age. Jesus Christ has told us all things already. The end was declared from the beginning. Therefore it is up to us to search the scriptures daily to see what God is revealing. And the Holy Spirit will be the one who guides a obedient, diligent, and humble servant into the mysteries of His word.

What God has revealed to me is that Babylon the Great spoken of in Revelation 17-18, Jeremiah 50-51, and Isaiah 13-14, 47 is America. There's no doubt about it. The signs continue to speak and they will continue to speak. So with that being the case, I will continue to be led by the spirit in declaring that truth to all those who have an ear to hear. IF you don't agree with it, fine. Your responsible for your own soul. But you've heard the message. My job is finished. Now if you want to sit at the feet of Jesus, let the Holy Spirit minister unto you, and put America on trial to see if it truly is Babylon the Great, I will be more than joyous to go precept upon precept and line upon line in order to be taught knowledge and understand doctrine. Now the question is are you willing to learn what God has to say, according to His word?



"Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little." Isaiah 28:9-10

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

The ones outside of the ark in Noah's day believed that judgment would never come. They thought that they would continue to eat, drink, and marry. But when God broke up all the fountains of the great deep and opened the windows of heaven, the expectation and hope of all those outside the ark perished. God always gets the last word my brother. There's no escaping this fact. Therefore it is imperative for all the people who are outside of the ark today, to wake up and realize that there is a God in heaven who loves them and has provided a way for them to be let in the ark of safety; which is only through belief and confession in the finished work of Christ Jesus our LORD.

If god truly loved them, he would not have created destruction to annihilate his own people

"4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=NIV

your god seems to be the worst hypocrite in history

4-6 No carved gods of any size, shape, or form of anything whatever, whether of things that fly or walk or swim. Don’t bow down to them and don’t serve them because I am God, your God, and I’m a most jealous God, punishing the children for any sins their parents pass on to them to the third, and yes, even to the fourth generation of those who hate me. But I’m unswervingly loyal to the thousands who love me and keep my commandments.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 20:5&version=MSG

The lake of fire was created for the devil and his angels. It wasn't created for human beings.

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels." Matthew 25:41

But because sin was introduced into a world that God created "very good", all those who choose to follow their father the devil, will also occupy the lake of fire forever and ever. You see my brother there are 2 fathers in this world. Thus, there are 2 types of children in this world. While God is the creator of all, He is not the father of all. God is only the father of those who have been born again into His heavenly kingdom. The devil is the father of all those who willfully choose not to repent of their sins, turn to the true and living God, and receive salvation.

So God in His love executes His judgments by doing what is just, holy, and right. Even in His wrath His love is demonstrated. How you say? By protecting those who love Him from those who don't. The Bible tells us, "Let favor be showed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD." (Isaiah 26:10) Even if God let unrepentant sinners into heaven, they would still act like they always acted. Why? Because they never wanted a new heart to begin with.

So my prayer for you my brother is that your heart will continue to be pricked by the LORD GOD and that you will bow down to His will by confessing that you are a lost sinner in need of a Savior! Amen.

If god is omniscient, he knew humans would eventually end up in hell when he created it thus hell was created also for the human souls

If god is the creator of everything, he also introduced sin and the devil. How can he create evil and create humans that are naturally susceptible to evil, and punish them for their shortcomings, then, being all wise, tells them in his holy book that true love keeps no record of wrong doing but always protects when he himself has done neither?

"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

As we see in the above passage of scripture, God does not want anybody to perish. He desires all of humanity to repent from their sin. So just because God is omniscient and knows who will be saved and who wont be saved, He's still patient with the world because He wants every soul to have a chance at receiving and accepting His love, mercy, forgiveness, grace, and ultimately His salvation.

The sovereignty of God is always at play, therefore even in His omniscience He still allows mankind to choose the path that they want to walk in this life. You see we don't know what tomorrow will bring forth, let alone the next 5 minutes. That is why God has given us the awesome gift of free will. We can willfully choose to believe God RIGHT NOW or we can willfully choose to reject God RIGHT NOW. Thus, the ball is in our court my friend. Just because God knows the outcome of every decision that is made in this life, doesn't negate the total ignorance that we experience in relation to the future day in and day out. We are the ones who live day by day, not knowing what a day may bring forth. Therefore, God implores us to choose Him each and every day He gives us on His earth, so that we can walk on the narrow path and be led by the light of His word!

Now the question that you have to answer my brother is do you really have the answer to what awaits you in eternity? Are you truly prepared for the day that God will require your soul?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

That the question of free will. Would you have your freedom taken away, so you can only do good? Or do you like having the choice to bad once in a while? Angels have to follow God, in the way you described. A world without evil, called heaven. So free will is to blame.

Amen. It does boil down to free will.



"See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil." Deuteronomy 30:15

We have the choice to walk on 1 of 2 paths because of our free will. Therefore, we must choose wisely. Amen.

 

[alissowack]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. But, don't you think that for one moment you may be "testing" God (Deuteronomy 6:16)? It's one thing to read from the page what God says and another to have your own perception on what God says. Satan knows the Bible, too you know and tried to use Psalm 91:11-12 against Jesus.

There is nothing straight-forward about the Scriptures. Once you begin to think you know what the Bible says, you find that you are woefully mistaken. Many of us go through this and I find is concerning that it seems you feel as if you have God figured out...that you have all the answers.

No I don't have God figured out my brother. How you got that perception from what I said is puzzling.

But let's go back to what the Bible says for a second. "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things." (Mark 13:23) Those are the words of our LORD when He spoke to the disciples on the Mount of Olives concerning the end of the age. Jesus Christ has told us all things already. The end was declared from the beginning. Therefore it is up to us to search the scriptures daily to see what God is revealing. And the Holy Spirit will be the one who guides a obedient, diligent, and humble servant into the mysteries of His word.

What God has revealed to me is that Babylon the Great spoken of in Revelation 17-18, Jeremiah 50-51, and Isaiah 13-14, 47 is America. There's no doubt about it. The signs continue to speak and they will continue to speak. So with that being the case, I will continue to be led by the spirit in declaring that truth to all those who have an ear to hear. IF you don't agree with it, fine. Your responsible for your own soul. But you've heard the message. My job is finished. Now if you want to sit at the feet of Jesus, let the Holy Spirit minister unto you, and put America on trial to see if it truly is Babylon the Great, I will be more than joyous to go precept upon precept and line upon line in order to be taught knowledge and understand doctrine. Now the question is are you willing to learn what God has to say, according to His word?



"Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little." Isaiah 28:9-10

I see it in all that you are writing. There is this "confidence" you convey that God is going to use you in the way "you" see fit...in your case it is for prophesy. You speak as if God has given you a seat next to Him and you have the Holy Spirit at your disposal. You use God's Word as if God owes you a favor. Do you have any respect (or fear) for God?

The Good News about Jesus is what the world needs to hear yet you are content with telling people what they should run from.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. But, don't you think that for one moment you may be "testing" God (Deuteronomy 6:16)? It's one thing to read from the page what God says and another to have your own perception on what God says. Satan knows the Bible, too you know and tried to use Psalm 91:11-12 against Jesus.

There is nothing straight-forward about the Scriptures. Once you begin to think you know what the Bible says, you find that you are woefully mistaken. Many of us go through this and I find is concerning that it seems you feel as if you have God figured out...that you have all the answers.

No I don't have God figured out my brother. How you got that perception from what I said is puzzling.

But let's go back to what the Bible says for a second. "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things." (Mark 13:23) Those are the words of our LORD when He spoke to the disciples on the Mount of Olives concerning the end of the age. Jesus Christ has told us all things already. The end was declared from the beginning. Therefore it is up to us to search the scriptures daily to see what God is revealing. And the Holy Spirit will be the one who guides a obedient, diligent, and humble servant into the mysteries of His word.

What God has revealed to me is that Babylon the Great spoken of in Revelation 17-18, Jeremiah 50-51, and Isaiah 13-14, 47 is America. There's no doubt about it. The signs continue to speak and they will continue to speak. So with that being the case, I will continue to be led by the spirit in declaring that truth to all those who have an ear to hear. IF you don't agree with it, fine. Your responsible for your own soul. But you've heard the message. My job is finished. Now if you want to sit at the feet of Jesus, let the Holy Spirit minister unto you, and put America on trial to see if it truly is Babylon the Great, I will be more than joyous to go precept upon precept and line upon line in order to be taught knowledge and understand doctrine. Now the question is are you willing to learn what God has to say, according to His word?



"Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little." Isaiah 28:9-10

I see it in all that you are writing. There is this "confidence" you convey that God is going to use you in the way "you" see fit...in your case it is for prophesy. You speak as if God has given you a seat next to Him and you have the Holy Spirit at your disposal. You use God's Word as if God owes you a favor. Do you have any respect (or fear) for God?

The Good News about Jesus is what the world needs to hear yet you are content with telling people what they should run from.

God has, is, and will continue to use me for His glory my friend. Why? Because He has revealed His purpose for my life and I have submitted and surrendered to it. We are all one body with Christ at the head. Every member of the body has a different function my friend. That means that the calling that God has given me, will be different from the calling that God has given you. Now if your jealous of the calling that God has given me, you may need to examine yourself. Envy, jealousy, and hate is not of God my brother.

And yes I speak with confidence, yes I speak with boldness, and yes I speak with authority. All of it is done out of a spirit of love, compassion, and humility. God says that we have confidence, boldness, and authority because of the in-dwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. We have access to the throne room of heaven, whereby we are commanded to enter into it BOLDLY to petition our LORD and Savior for mercy, grace, wisdom, knowledge, forgiveness, power, courage, etc.

There are promises in the word of God that you have to lay claim too. If you don't claim them, you'll remain powerless in certain areas of your walk. This all boils down to the measure of faith you have. How big is God to you my brother? Do you have the confidence of David when he went to slay Goliath? Do you have the boldness of Joshua when he took the promise land of Canaan? Do you speak with the authority of Moses when he confronted Pharaoh? The same spirit that dwelt in those mighty men, dwell in all born again believers. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever! Jesus Christ even said that those who would come after Him, would do greater works than He did while on the earth. You have to know how great our God is my brother. And the more you get to know that truth, the more greater and greater and greater He will become to you. Amen.

 

[alissowack]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. At the end of the day David, Joshua and Moses knew their place. He was God, and they were not. They were still sinners. Have you considered the lives of these people? Though I vaguely remember enough about Joshua, it is David and Moses that found themselves caught up in sin. David committed adultery and had a soldier killed. Moses couldn't enter into the Promise Land because he struck the rock instead of speaking to it. God's chosen people (Israel) did not escape punishment for their disobedience and wandered in the desert. Peter was one of Jesus disciples, and probably the boldest of the twelve, and he denied him three times. I don't need to know where your life has been, but I know you fall woefully short of God's Glory...and I'm no different.

You come on these threads and posts as if your heart is pure and innocent when it is just as deceitful...as Jeremiah 17:9 says about mankind. You can't escape it. Your sacrifice is not enough.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. At the end of the day David, Joshua and Moses knew their place. He was God, and they were not. They were still sinners. Have you considered the lives of these people? Though I vaguely remember enough about Joshua, it is David and Moses that found themselves caught up in sin. David committed adultery and had a soldier killed. Moses couldn't enter into the Promise Land because he struck the rock instead of speaking to it. God's chosen people (Israel) did not escape punishment for their disobedience and wandered in the desert. Peter was one of Jesus disciples, and probably the boldest of the twelve, and he denied him three times. I don't need to know where your life has been, but I know you fall woefully short of God's Glory...and I'm no different.

You come on these threads and posts as if your heart is pure and innocent when it is just as deceitful...as Jeremiah 17:9 says about mankind. You can't escape it. Your sacrifice is not enough.

So because I say that people must believe the message that God is giving, I am declaring that I am without sin? LOL Your funny my brother.

 

[alissowack]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. At the end of the day David, Joshua and Moses knew their place. He was God, and they were not. They were still sinners. Have you considered the lives of these people? Though I vaguely remember enough about Joshua, it is David and Moses that found themselves caught up in sin. David committed adultery and had a soldier killed. Moses couldn't enter into the Promise Land because he struck the rock instead of speaking to it. God's chosen people (Israel) did not escape punishment for their disobedience and wandered in the desert. Peter was one of Jesus disciples, and probably the boldest of the twelve, and he denied him three times. I don't need to know where your life has been, but I know you fall woefully short of God's Glory...and I'm no different.

You come on these threads and posts as if your heart is pure and innocent when it is just as deceitful...as Jeremiah 17:9 says about mankind. You can't escape it. Your sacrifice is not enough.

So because I say that people must believe the message that God is giving, I am declaring that I am without sin? LOL Your funny my brother.

Well, what is the "message"? It can be anything you perceive it to be and not what God intends it to be. Again, Satan knew the Bible but his perception on what it says is contrary to Jesus. Satan can just as well say, "I'm only doing what the Bible says". What would make you disagree?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

@doyouwant2go2heaven. At the end of the day David, Joshua and Moses knew their place. He was God, and they were not. They were still sinners. Have you considered the lives of these people? Though I vaguely remember enough about Joshua, it is David and Moses that found themselves caught up in sin. David committed adultery and had a soldier killed. Moses couldn't enter into the Promise Land because he struck the rock instead of speaking to it. God's chosen people (Israel) did not escape punishment for their disobedience and wandered in the desert. Peter was one of Jesus disciples, and probably the boldest of the twelve, and he denied him three times. I don't need to know where your life has been, but I know you fall woefully short of God's Glory...and I'm no different.

You come on these threads and posts as if your heart is pure and innocent when it is just as deceitful...as Jeremiah 17:9 says about mankind. You can't escape it. Your sacrifice is not enough.

So because I say that people must believe the message that God is giving, I am declaring that I am without sin? LOL Your funny my brother.

Well, what is the "message"? It can be anything you perceive it to be and not what God intends it to be. Again, Satan knew the Bible but his perception on what it says is contrary to Jesus. Satan can just as well say, "I'm only doing what the Bible says". What would make you disagree?

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is always the message.

 

[alissowack]

If only you spoke as if your hope was in the work of Christ. You speak as a man who would send someone to the flames than to radiate that hope.

 

[Bodhi]

That the question of free will. Would you have your freedom taken away, so you can only do good? Or do you like having the choice to bad once in a while? Angels have to follow God, in the way you described. A world without evil, called heaven. So free will is to blame.

Eventually and allegedly, all souls who pass god's test will go to heaven where they will/can only do good, I assume? For argument's sake, if god is choosing to punish me for eternity due to my decisions based on limited knowledge and wisdom, I would rather have the choice to do only good. Freedom does not have to be taken away for evil not to exist, btw

In addition, there is no such thing as free will. Everything that happens, god wills it. He is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

 

[Bodhi]

Now the question that you have to answer my brother is do you really have the answer to what awaits you in eternity? Are you truly prepared for the day that God will require your soul?

If god knew non theists would reject him before he created the universe, and willed it into existence anyway, he chose for that to happen. The ball was never in our court. The ball was in his court from jump. If god can do anything, he could have created a universe in which no one chose to do evil. Evil could have never been willed into existence, by god, and freedom kept intact.