jono;8295617 said:
When Elliot was looking in the mirror before he punched it, he was talking about "i never should have created you" and then he said "i avoid myself" and when he was looking in the mirror there were several faces but i did see Mr. Robot, Angela and the dude in the mask.
So is it possible that bruh is one of those people and he isnt real? Or is it that those are people, maybe personalities that he created for himself?
I that that scene was pivotal.
I think this show, so far, had done good job of showing how hacking can distort, change, and misshape reality.
Just like on this site, we can make up a name, come in here, and act like anyone want to be. Or we can create multiple accounts and become all kinds of people. Factor in heavy drug use and a pretty loner type existence, it's very trippy.
Now as for mr. Robot. I question if he is a real person in the real world. He showed up when Elliott had to get vera outta prison, five minutes after Angela was buzzing trying to get in. How could he have done that? How did he show up at Elliott's job just chilling and no one paid him any mind. Also, what kinda dad would use his son in such a way by frying and rewiring his brain to the point he doesn't know his own sister. And according to her this has happened before.
If you look at things like darlene breaking into his apartment and taking a shower and wearing his clothes, it makes sense now. When he barged into the shower she was like "hey I'm naked!!" Which I thought odd, because I'd be like bitch you in my house,showering, ima look at your naked ass while we discuss wtf you doing here.
If you look at that pregnant cold chick, she is very similar to elliots mother, in terms of calculating and manipulating emotions. I also find it weird they always speak in Swedish. I think perhaps tyrell is his brother or maybe a figment as well.
When Elliot was hallucinating or dreaming in that episode coming off drugs, angela was in his detox dream and said he was only born a month ago. When he googled and Facebooked himself he finds nothing. The only person he seems to know 100% directly for longer than the start of the show is Angela. Everyone else is potentially brand new to him, maybe even his job, so I think everything is questionable. For instance we know the company is not called evil corp, but rally e Corp. But we were in Elliott's viewpoint so long that everyone said it, because we interpreting everything as he does. But the ppl who thought two weeks ago was too focused on Angela...She went to her dad's crib and saw that its e Corp, she ain't saying evil corp...that leads me to think she real. Pls she clearly knew him as kid. But then again how is his dad dead and she cosigns it, if he really isn't. I don't know. And if darlene his sister, and mr. Robot really her dad, how is she friends with Angela all these years and lying about her dad's death. From when she was a kid?
Something happened to Elliot before the show started that we are not privy too, until we get that information is hard for us to say anything is 100% accurate. Any memory, thought, scene has potential to have been hacked. At least up til now.
However, and this may seem like a copout, but I think the main goal of show is not who did what and what's real. It's more a mirror of our current computer based society that can change manipulate distort and present real and fake realities, merging into a sort of alice in wonderland effect. Think of things like identify theft or catfishing. Or think of me. You guys might think I'm a black man in nyc, but I could be a 75 year old Chinese woman in alaska.
We spend so much time online who knows what's "real" in the sense of if I really am who I say I am. But outside of my identity, the words and information I am conveying to you now is real. And the emotions or ideas or thoughts you feel from what I say is real, even if I am lying about my identity. Meaning if I come here and post about a business opportunity to make money. Even tho im old Chinese lady posing as black man on allhiphop.com, im still giving you real information that you can use in the business opportunity.
So you will go and invest and be like that sheerexcellence a great black man, but im really a old Chinese woman.so I'm fake, info real though. And pretty much all our interactions can be like that whether online or in the real world. Everything merges.
The same confusion you cab have when cstfished or identity stolen or you read a news story that ends up being fake or someone tweets lil wayne killed. We making all these choices, decisions, having real emotions, based off Twitter names or blog posts where we have no idea if person its really real or what their agenda is or anything. Ppl pose as something and fill you but really got something else in mind, like the dude who gave Angela's man his bullshit hiphop cd, which ended up being just s way to hack into allsafe mainframe, our think of how tyrell set up the old cto.
Those are real world ppl lying posing and shifting things making you question whats real constantly.
I'm not saying anything I'm saying is 100% correct. I'm just saying these are different things to think about and us even discussing this is sorta what the show runners are going for. Trying to get us involved as characters too. The audience. Many times elliot says things like are you guys real, are you in on it too, speaking to the audience. Then he toook the tv cameras and threw it down. That's us. That's our assumptions and ideas that are placing context and tone on what we are watching and how we interpreting it. Everyone can make up what they wanna make up depending on how they interpret it. I can say mr robot not real alive dad, and point to things. Someone else can say opposite and point to things, and maybe they leave it all up to us to argue and decide, just like elliot is doing now by saying what's real, what's not, who am I?
It's to early to say of this show will end up being great or not. But it certainly is something that requires more from its viewers than passively watching it while they eat popcorn.
This shit crazy.
