Most Underrated Player in the NBA????

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NothingButTheTruth;1595153 said:
Does Durant have a post game? Nope.

Does Lebron have a post game? Nope. Mid-range? Nope.

Does Wade have a post-game? Nope. Mid-range? Average.

Does Carmelo have a post-game? Yes, one of the best for a wing player, if not the best. Mid-range? Yes, one of the best.

Conclusion: Carmelo is a better scorer than all 3 of them.

...Everything else you said is subjective.

Wade does get in the post and is decent
 
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D.D.S.;1595207 said:
foh, bruh. u tryin 2 hard.
i've watched them and he still looks like the same melo.
and his passin still aint SHIT. 3 assists a game? c'mon nigga.

real talk tho ive seen a few games, ive never seen him finding the open man as well and as often as early in this year..

and like i said he aint shuttin nobody down, but he has improved defensively..
 
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;1595213 said:
only people who can see melo as a pure scorer is kobe and durant..

again bruh...so why is it that all the guys i mentioned have higher PPG and FG%?
 
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iAMNOVA;1595225 said:
again bruh...so why is it that all the guys i mentioned have higher PPG and FG%?

PPG?

prolly because their team either need it to win, or because the ball was dominated by that one person on 99% of the possessions..

u may be right on FG%

but u actin like they blow melo out the water...he is right there wit em lol...

and they can not consistently score in as many different ways as melo or durant..
 
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;1595258 said:
PPG?

prolly because their team either need it to win, or because the ball was dominated by that one person on 99% of the possessions..

u may be right on FG%

but u actin like they blow melo out the water...he is right there wit em lol...

and they can not consistently score in as many different ways as melo or durant..

lol@ the backpedaling and justifications....smh
 
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Andre Miller is a great choice. Boah got a basic game but he is consistent and he always comes to play.

The dude Luis Scola is also underrated. Dude puts up crazy numbers and he has no athleticism.
 
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;1595287 said:
so melo aint a better shooter than bron??

better post player than wade??

Melo SHOULD be a better shooter than Lebron because he's more of a shooter than Lebron

Melo SHOULD be a better post player than Wade because he's 5 inches taller and 20lbs heavier not to mention he plays a position where he is more likely to post up than Wade @ 1 or 2...the point is...even if you give him that...the fact that he has "more" scoring moves and still doesnt outscore them and isnt as efficient isnt really working in your arguments favor....
 
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lol isnt as efficient... come on b...

u knockin him for being .17 percentage points less..

and like i said...d. wade had fuckin micheal measley as a second option..of course he gon outscore melo if he wanna win...

lebron dominate the fuck outta the ball damn near transforming mo williams from pg to jason kapono...
 
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iAMNOVA;1595204 said:
FIXED....

how is Melo a better scorer when A.) all the aforementioned guys have higher ppg and B.)have higher fg% than Melo

how the fuck is it subjective???

go check the stats bruh...all those cats have better defensive stats than Melo...all of them have higher rpg stats than Melo except DW and Melo is only better by like .5...fuck outta here I swear you stay saying dumb shit

Lol, what does field goal percentage and points per game have to do with who's the better scorer? It may seem that way to the average ignorant fan, but true basketball fans know there are way too many variables that go into statistics like that.

For instance, Wade and Lebron's game consist of going to the basket aka layups over 50% of the time, Carmelo's game consists of mostly jump shots. Conclusion: Field goal percentage determines shot selection mixed with shooting ability (70% shot selection, 30% shooting ability give or take).

Points Per game determines your role on your team. Some people need to score 30ppg for their team to win, others need to score 22ppg for their team to win, still doesn't determine the better scorer. All it does is give the observer an idea of how much of the team's offensive load you put on your back, usually determined by your coach's style of play, your playing style, and the other talent on your team.

P.S. The fact that you thought "go check the stats" was a valid rebuttal, shows your ignorance towards the game of basketball. I suggest you educate yourself a little more before trying to debate on a topic you have little knowledge of.

G.R.I.P. Money $$$;1595222 said:
real talk tho ive seen a few games, ive never seen him finding the open man as well and as often as early in this year..

and like i said he aint shuttin nobody down, but he has improved defensively..

Cosign. I also watch most of Carmelo's games, and yes he has improved his court vision and his defense.
 
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NothingButTheTruth;1595438 said:
Lol, what does field goal percentage and points per game have to do with who's the better scorer? It may seem that way to the average ignorant fan, but true basketball fans know there are way too many variables that go into statistics like that.

For instance, Wade and Lebron's game consist of going to the basket aka layups over 50% of the time, Carmelo's game consists of mostly jump shots. Conclusion: Field goal percentage determines shot selection mixed with shooting ability.

Points Per game determines your role on your team. Some people need to score 30ppg for their team to win, others need to score 22ppg for their team to win, still doesn't determine the better scorer. All it does is give the observer an idea of how much of the team's offensive load you put on your back, usually determined by your coach's style of play, your playing style, and the other talent on your team.

P.S. The fact that you thought "go check the stats" was a valid rebuttal, shows your ignorance towards the game of basketball. I suggest you educate yourself a little more before trying to debate on a topic you have little knowledge of.

Cosign. I also watch most of Carmelo's games, and yes he has improved his court vision and his defense.

I'm sorry what do I know I olny played D-1 ball my father has only coached @ D-1 schools for the past 20yrs...i only have 3 close family members who are currently in the NBA or WNBA and more in Europe...I dont know anything about bball...I'm sorry I only turned down 2 offers to play ball in Italy and Germany this yr...you're right im a casual fan and obviously FG% and PPG have NOTHING to do with how good a scorer a player is...

I'm sorry but i thought the objective of basketball was to get the easiest shot possible therefore making the percentage of you making said shot go up...therefore there is a direct relation to fg% and shot selection...Bron and Wade can get to the basket better and easier therefore they take easier and better shots...meaning they have better shot selection which is a staple of a good scorer...and they have a better skill set which allows them to get to the rack with more efficiency

If getting to the rack wasnt such a good idea why did John McCelendon even come up with the Fast Break? You're trying to fault Bron and Wade for taking better shots than Melo...you're trying to fault them for having the common basketball knowledge to get to the rack and take the easy shot over Melo pulling a long or mid-range J...lol really...so i guess by your shot selection theory on a break Bron should pull up instead of dunking that way we can get a more accurate measure of his true scoring ability because everyone knows only sorry players get to the rack...the real scorers make things harder than they have to be...just to prove a point. Melo is a better scorer because he has worse shot selection than the other guys...really thats what you're rolling with? PPG dont matter....because they are just a measure of how much of the scoring load a player takes on....you ever think about ABILITY to take on that scoring load...if my team needs me to score 30 points and I dont have the ability to do so then ummmmm im not going to score 30 pts....if my team needs me to score but i keep taking bullshit jumpers instead of getting to the paint for easy 2s instead of taking unnecessary pull ups im not going to score 30...if i have an off night and i dont go to the rack and get lays or force fouls i cant manufacture any garbage points. I'm not saying Melo doesnt have the skill set to drop ANYBODY in the league off on any given night but to say that he has a higher propensity to do so based on his more difficult shot selection is fucking redundant... you have to be the dumbest guy to talk basketball ever...where did you stop playing...did u ever play for anything outside of a rec league...so I guess MJ wasnt a great scorer either because MJ was known to get to the rack and play inside...MJ didnt have a consistent 3pt and he only really pulled long Js when he had to MJ got to the rack or pulled short to mid range Js so i guess that makes him wack too right...i guess MJs lifetime .500 fg percentage is null and void because he spent his career dunking and taking short shots...I swear yall say the dumbest shit...He gets outscored and has a lower fg% but that doesnt count why? because it doesnt work in your favor? FOH....he's a scorer...but he's not the best is he in the same league yeah I never denied that....I just stated that those guys were better than he is at doing what he does...and ALSO better in EVERY other aspect of the game therefore making them better players...

bruh I understand what you were TRYING to go for but it doesnt really work when u are comparing two guys that play the same positions or similar positions...you would have a case if I brought up a PF with a better FG% but not against another wing player...because in essence their expectations are similar and the required skill sets are as well

I been playing ball ALL my life at a VERY high lvl...I played D-1 I play with an against NBA players all the time I have family that are in the NBA and play in various leagues across the world...I was offered to play in Mexico this summer and in Italy and Germany...I turned them down because I've had 2 grade 3 ACL tears in my left knee 3 surgeries on my left foot and I like walking...I'm not going to lie...I also dont have the heart and desire to practice and train at that level anymore...and I'm going to Law school starting next summer...its more long term...my ultimate goal is to follow in my father's footsteps and coach...my father has been a head coach at few small schools and an asst at couple D-1 schools from the ACC A-10 and C-USA leagues for the past 20yrs...I know bball guy. Just saying....get ur credentials up and start making valid arguments before coming out with ad hominem attacks and bogus asanine statements

bruh you got it...
 
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;1595342 said:
lol isnt as efficient... come on b...

u knockin him for being .17 percentage points less..

and like i said...d. wade had fuckin micheal measley as a second option..of course he gon outscore melo if he wanna win...

lebron dominate the fuck outta the ball damn near transforming mo williams from pg to jason kapono...

I completely understand what you're saying but...you still ignoring the fact that they ARE in fact better than his...lol

and his D is not in the same league with those other guys especially not statistically
 
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