Mobb Deep - Drop A Gem On 'Em

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5 Grand;8854327 said:
The general consensus seems to be that a blunt, straightforward diss that names names is better than a subliminal, over the head, lyrical diss.

But the more I think about it, I'm starting to change my mind. I like the idea of a subliminal diss where everybody knows who you're talking about. Its more clever than saying "Fuck Jay Z" or "Chino XL Fuck You Too". Some of 2Pac's disses were so simple that he should get an F for creativity.

Yeah but you dont have as much of an emotional "awww shit!" reactions to shit that you gotta figure out and be a detective when you dissect subliminals.
 
aneed123;8855940 said:
The pleas being copped are hilarious. During the time period pac destroyed them and the world outside of ny gave no fucks bout drop a gem on em. Now years later folk trying to rewrite shit Smh

^ ^ This
 
KneeGro_DuperMan;8858033 said:
Pac said Mobb Deep name.....ok.....but the only bars he had for them was sickle cell & grown folk talkin close your mouth.....unless I'm missing something....Prodigy killed this nigga lyrically

The fact that those few lines are all it took to match up wit Pee's best dis effort may be more of an indictment on that subliminal, hide behind clues" style which has to burn souls of Pac haters

But lets reverse coast for a minute and maybe you will understand it better.

In other words it's the equivalent of Jay Z putting a stop to Jayo felony who made a dope "True'd up" (his drop a gem on em) song and "catch em in the mornin" just by saying

All you other niggas taking shots at jigga

You only get half a bar, fuck yall niggas!

Sometimes it dont take whole verses to ether people if you the much bigger rapper with the broader appeal.
 
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CeLLaR-DooR;8863533 said:
I've never got what was so dope about Hit Em Up.

Shit was just so raw & uncut at the time. Straight to the point in 3 seconds. Wasn't about rap. He went straight at Biggie heart soon as the record button was hit. And it didn't have to be extra witty. It was just, "I fucked your wife, but she's a bitch". Shit was real vulgar. Then talking about he had to beg a bitch to let Biggie sleep on the couch. That's that ugly fat friend who wears lobsided forces that lean lmao. The nigga who can't pull noooooo bitches. The only thing about it is the Outlaws. Pac shouldve went the whole track. But he made up for it with Bomb First & When We Ride On Our Enemies.

I remember when my Dad ran to Sam Goody's to get the single. He popped in that CD and I was like

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10 years old checking that my dad doesn't mind me bobbing to the aggressive content.
 
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smp4life;8859154 said:
MiamiNights;8858269 said:
Busta Carmichael ;8855714 said:
Don't know why y'all nosigning Goldie.

He is right. Drop a gem on Em was weak. Pac murdered them on arguably the famous Diss song of all time.

And the only way Mobb Deep and Biggie could respond was with subliminals. When I heard drop a gem on Em the first time I didn't know it was a Diss. It was listed as (Pac Diss) I was like wtf where!??

"Niggas talk a lot of shit but that's after I'm gone

Cause they fear me in physical form let it be known

I'm troublesome"

Pac dissed the Mobb and didn't even know it in these lines.

He wrote it a long time ago
 
_Goldie_;8855863 said:
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_Goldie_;8853864 said:
lol @ sneak dissin being genius. Good Gawd these niggas were pussy

U sound retarded bc pac was never no tough nigga nobody was ever scared of him majority of nyc looked at him as a clown so why would they try to match pac shit talking that's all he ever did

You sound like a pussy. Scary ass niggas only made sneak disses and half of those were after the nigga was dead lol

U sound like a wrestling fan. Big was an official street nigga jayz official street nigga mobb deep cnn tragedy all official street niggas. Biggie moved like street nigga why would he go on record n diss this character tupac when you have homies really dying in n out of jail n they lookin to u as the savior. Pac is a industry dude everything he did was for entertainment. Which one u want beef wit? Real beef not diss records
 
Wait... He speakin on someone gettin raped but didn't Hav out this nigga a few years ago only to connect back with him? And from my understanding Prodigy never refuted it...

Both of these niggas are confused.
 
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Turfaholic;8863756 said:
CeLLaR-DooR;8863533 said:
I've never got what was so dope about Hit Em Up.

Shit was just so raw & uncut at the time. Straight to the point in 3 seconds. Wasn't about rap. He went straight at Biggie heart soon as the record button was hit. And it didn't have to be extra witty. It was just, "I fucked your wife, but she's a bitch". Shit was real vulgar. Then talking about he had to beg a bitch to let Biggie sleep on the couch. That's that ugly fat friend who wears lobsided forces that lean lmao. The nigga who can't pull noooooo bitches. The only thing about it is the Outlaws. Pac shouldve went the whole track. But he made up for it with Bomb First & When We Ride On Our Enemies.

I remember when my Dad ran to Sam Goody's to get the single. He popped in that CD and I was like

qm0hec4l52ad.gif


10 years old checking that my dad doesn't mind me bobbing to the aggressive content.

Yeah he should have but he didn't feel that the other niggas he was dissing was on his level and he was right that's why he put the outlaws on there Kadafi's verse was hard though
 
5 Grand;8854627 said:
Stillmatic Freestyle was a dope diss and he didn't name names


Bruh...

He said "H to the Izzo, M to the Izzo" and called out every nigga in his crew by name, except he turned all their names into double entendres in a classic scheme that pretty much anticipated modern battle rap style.
 
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And I don't see how "Drop A Gem On Em" is a "sneak diss" or "subliminal." They were referencing well-known rumors about 'Pac throughout the rap community and ethering him with that shit. Plus Havoc basically did say his name "Too not (2-Not)" he just used some wordplay while doing it. It was blatantly a diss.

A subliminal is when no one except the nigga you dissing and maybe his crew knows what you're talking about, the shit Nas and Jay's team were trading for years until shit came to a head. To the listener, it's a line that could be taken as a diss, but could just as easily apply to anyone else in the game. Them bars in "Drop A Gem On Em" were for 'Pac and can't be reasonably interpreted as for anyone else. Everyone knew it and that's why they took the track off the radio after he died.
 
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za'kiss;8866222 said:
And I don't see how "Drop A Gem On Em" is a "sneak diss" or "subliminal." They were referencing well-known rumors about 'Pac throughout the rap community and ethering him with that shit. Plus Havoc basically did say his name "Too not (2-Not)" he just used some wordplay while doing it. It was blatantly a diss.

A subliminal is when no one except the nigga you dissing and maybe his crew knows what you're talking about, the shit Nas and Jay's team were trading for years until shit came to a head. To the listener, it's a line that could be taken as a diss, but could just as easily apply to anyone else in the game. Them bars in "Drop A Gem On Em" were for 'Pac and can't be reasonably interpreted as for anyone else. Everyone knew it and that's why they took the track off the radio after he died.

@"za'kiss"

Who am I talking about in my last post?

You dunno. That's why subliminals are wack
 

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