Minister Louis Farrakhan on The Breakfast Club

[phukkyou2]

Willie Lynch is real y'all

 

[EyeofAsaru]

Malcolm X >>>> Martin Luther King Jr.

Malcolm X >>>> Louis Farrakhan

Malcolm X = Malcolm X

is how I see it FTR

If this is what you believe then why do you not take in consideration the words of Malcolm X regarding the NOI and their true nature?

Don't care. Not to mention I was born in 88'

I know u dont care..You dont care about the facts..and being black means nothing no more in the grand scheme of how your actions will be judged....The same person that stood on the podium and called Malcolm a traitor is the same one that aligned himself with all the enemies of Elijah Muhammad..

Wamp Wamp

Its ok mummy..You can lay down now..no need to think you are alive because you are not..

 

[phukkyou2]

Yo. Nobody's joining Dr. York and his Squad. If he was out there and tangible then sure.

But who got more clout and muscle than Farrakhan that's Black in The U.S.?

Stop being such a Poser and an Agent Smith. Your kind is exactly why we can't get nowhere.

If Farrakhan can make some REAL CHANGE (for the better) happen then I'm all for it. If he can put together the right Coalition then I'm signing up.

I'm an Equal Opportunity Racist but if someone can really make something happen for the better then why should I care about their alleged Personal Issues? I'm pretty sure that the People that Founded St. Ides and 211 didn't PARTICULARLY have my best interest but I still drink the shit anyway

This is North America, I'm a Black Man (tho Seasoned). I get in where I fit in and I ride for whoever's ridin wit me and vice versa.

 

[p-tavern]

Yo. Nobody's joining Dr. York and his Squad. If he was out there and tangible then sure.

But who got more clout and muscle than Farrakhan that's Black in The U.S.?

Stop being such a Poser and an Agent Smith. Your kind is exactly why we can't get nowhere.

If Farrakhan can make some REAL CHANGE (for the better) happen then I'm all for it. If he can put together the right Coalition then I'm signing up.

I'm an Equal Opportunity Racist but if someone can really make something happen for the better then why should I care about their alleged Personal Issues? I'm pretty sure that the People that Founded St. Ides and 211 didn't PARTICULARLY have my best interest but I still drink the shit anyway

This is North America, I'm a Black Man (tho Seasoned). I get in where I fit in and I ride for whoever's ridin wit me and vice versa.

He's not, nor is he planning to "make some real change." Farrakhan is allowed by the system to remain in power because all he really does is placate the masses that are ready to take action.

All the real leaders that are down to destroy the system end up either dead or locked down on trumped up charges. The system isn't letting anyone that doesn't follow their playbook on the field.

Anything mainstream is channeled through the system. Think about that.

Stop looking within the mainstream for a solution.

 

[phukkyou2]

I'm definitely not but uhhhh.... You're exposing yourself more than anything.

And thanks for being a Chatty Patty

 

[phukkyou2]

You (few) Farrakhan haters haven't changed any minds or contributed anything to this Thread but Division, Slander, Low Self Esteem, and Slander.

Thank you for being such a giant help to the Afro-American Community you fucking Agent Smiths

 

[cannonspike1994]

why does farrakhan perm his hair.

 

[jono]

Niggas think everybody is an "agent", I don't even subscribe to 99% of the shit discussed by "militants" as I'm a cynic by nature but it's honestly ridiculous to believe people are "agents" with no proof whatsoever, regardless of his organization or religion.

 

[phukkyou2]

Sad thing is though Agents are modern day House Niggers and they actually do exist

It's about time you Niggaz leave the Hood for once

 

[phukkyou2]

It'll actually open up your mind. I mean, you can't actually think you know everything there is to know about Life itself as a Black Man in America do you?

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Im just curious why Farrakhan hasnt been bodied.

Not that I wish death on him or anything like that. But for someone that claims to be so progressive and militant as he claims he is he would be public enemy #1.

Anybody thats been on some black power shit has been dealt with more times then not.

Why has he stood the test of time? What makes him so unfuckwittable? What keeps the government off of him?

This isnt me bashing the man I just want to know because it seems like he has eluded consequences when others in his position weren't so fortunate.

 

[jono]

They don't have to kill you if they can ignore and discredit you. I'm no follower of Farrakhan but like he said at the beginning, he has virtually been banned from the mainstream media. They only mention his name if it's something negative.

 

[p-tavern]

They don't have to kill you if they can ignore and discredit you. I'm no follower of Farrakhan but like he said at the beginning, he has virtually been banned from the mainstream media. They only mention his name if it's something negative.

He hasn't been killed, discredited, or had his organization shut down.

That should be enough to raise a red flag.

The system isn't letting any real threat slide like "let's just ignore him and hopefully the people will do the same."

Too easy to backfire. Too many loose ends open. The system plays for keeps, not 'win or lose, we had some fun.' Any real threat will be met with termination attempts until its extinguished.

You (few) Farrakhan haters haven't changed any minds or contributed anything to this Thread but Division, Slander, Low Self Esteem, and Slander.

Thank you for being such a giant help to the Afro-American Community you fucking Agent Smiths

First and foremost, let's make this about the message. Its the responsibility of all righteous people to spread positivity and enlightenment, as well as to uplift those around them. If anyone finds those aspects to be true in the word's of Farrakhan or anyone else, then they need to go spread that to others to help them. Its all of our obligation to do so. However, it shouldn't be done under the flag of any organization, movement, or progressive thought stream simply because that was where the person got their information from. It should be done out of our duty to improve life for those around us.

The issue here will arise anytime there is an organized backing, or when the herald purports themselves to be a leader. In any instance such as this, the messenger and/or organization must be examined even more closely than the message itself. Anything less would be lax in discipline, which is a very exploitable weakness. Lack of discipline is a set-up for failure, through and through.

Which leaders, the ones who were out there with the power to move people and that had a plan to make real change, ever got a pass?

Farrakhan seems to get one. Why is that? I can't find a legit reason, so I can't deem his intentions safe. I also can't in good faith support him or his movement because of this. I can, however, take the gems he drops, examine them, clean them up if need be, and spread them to those that lack.

 

[jono]

They don't have to kill you if they can ignore and discredit you. I'm no follower of Farrakhan but like he said at the beginning, he has virtually been banned from the mainstream media. They only mention his name if it's something negative.

He hasn't been killed, discredited, or had his organization shut down.

That should be enough to raise a red flag.

The system isn't letting any real threat slide like "let's just ignore him and hopefully the people will do the same."

Too easy to backfire. Too many loose ends open. The system plays for keeps, not 'win or lose, we had some fun.' Any real threat will be met with termination attempts until its extinguished.

You (few) Farrakhan haters haven't changed any minds or contributed anything to this Thread but Division, Slander, Low Self Esteem, and Slander.

Thank you for being such a giant help to the Afro-American Community you fucking Agent Smiths

First and foremost, let's make this about the message. Its the responsibility of all righteous people to spread positivity and enlightenment, as well as to uplift those around them. If anyone finds those aspects to be true in the word's of Farrakhan or anyone else, then they need to go spread that to others to help them. Its all of our obligation to do so. However, it shouldn't be done under the flag of any organization, movement, or progressive thought stream simply because that was where the person got their information from. It should be done out of our duty to improve life for those around us.

The issue here will arise anytime there is an organized backing, or when the herald purports themselves to be a leader. In any instance such as this, the messenger and/or organization must be examined even more closely than the message itself. Anything less would be lax in discipline, which is a very exploitable weakness. Lack of discipline is a set-up for failure, through and through.

Which leaders, the ones who were out there with the power to move people and that had a plan to make real change, ever got a pass?

Farrakhan seems to get one. Why is that? I can't find a legit reason, so I can't deem his intentions safe. I also can't in good faith support him or his movement because of this. I can, however, take the gems he drops, examine them, clean them up if need be, and spread them to those that lack.

Muhfuckas have made careers out of debunking Nation of Islam doctrines. Are we gonna sit here and state that the NOI haven't been called a racist and anti-semetic organization? In the interview they mentioned how Obama had to "disavow" Farrakhan, if he wasn't discredited then why wasn't it okay for him to cosign Obama?

Ironically, there are a large number of morons that think just like Farrakhan that haven't been killed either so I guess they are all "agents".

Contrary to popular belief they don't believe in making martyrs.

 

[p-tavern]

They don't have to kill you if they can ignore and discredit you. I'm no follower of Farrakhan but like he said at the beginning, he has virtually been banned from the mainstream media. They only mention his name if it's something negative.

He hasn't been killed, discredited, or had his organization shut down.

That should be enough to raise a red flag.

The system isn't letting any real threat slide like "let's just ignore him and hopefully the people will do the same."

Too easy to backfire. Too many loose ends open. The system plays for keeps, not 'win or lose, we had some fun.' Any real threat will be met with termination attempts until its extinguished.

You (few) Farrakhan haters haven't changed any minds or contributed anything to this Thread but Division, Slander, Low Self Esteem, and Slander.

Thank you for being such a giant help to the Afro-American Community you fucking Agent Smiths

First and foremost, let's make this about the message. Its the responsibility of all righteous people to spread positivity and enlightenment, as well as to uplift those around them. If anyone finds those aspects to be true in the word's of Farrakhan or anyone else, then they need to go spread that to others to help them. Its all of our obligation to do so. However, it shouldn't be done under the flag of any organization, movement, or progressive thought stream simply because that was where the person got their information from. It should be done out of our duty to improve life for those around us.

The issue here will arise anytime there is an organized backing, or when the herald purports themselves to be a leader. In any instance such as this, the messenger and/or organization must be examined even more closely than the message itself. Anything less would be lax in discipline, which is a very exploitable weakness. Lack of discipline is a set-up for failure, through and through.

Which leaders, the ones who were out there with the power to move people and that had a plan to make real change, ever got a pass?

Farrakhan seems to get one. Why is that? I can't find a legit reason, so I can't deem his intentions safe. I also can't in good faith support him or his movement because of this. I can, however, take the gems he drops, examine them, clean them up if need be, and spread them to those that lack.

Muhfuckas have made careers out of debunking Nation of Islam doctrines. Are we gonna sit here and state that the NOI haven't been called a racist and anti-semetic organization? In the interview they mentioned how Obama had to "disavow" Farrakhan, if he wasn't discredited then why wasn't it okay for him to cosign Obama?

Ironically, there are a large number of morons that think just like Farrakhan that haven't been killed either so I guess they are all "agents".

Contrary to popular belief they don't believe in making martyrs.

They've made a career out of attacking a doctrine that predates Farrakhan himself. I'm not speaking on the NOI, I'm referring to Farrakhan alone.

Obama is a figurehead/puppet imo. If you look how the pre-election process takes place, I don't see how anyone can argue that he wasn't 'placed' into power, just like any other presentational candidate and eventual figurehead. The man works for the system. If we disagree on that, then we probably won't see eye to eye on much here, but regardless, healthy debate is good for everyone.

With that being said, of course Obama isn't going to accept a cosign, because then people would start scratching their heads. Does that mean he doesn't rep the same system that allows Farrakhan to thrive? No. It means they're both following the same playbook. This type of strategy may not be surface apparent, but its not that complex either.

I don't feel Farrakhan is an agent for what he speaks on. I feel he's an agent because, as previously mentioned by someone else in this thread, he organizes the willing and then has them sit on their hands. He also aligns himself with those that the NOI historically would never consider being cordial with.

Correct, they don't like making martyrs unless its a last resort. Its much more efficient to silence and discredit through other means, and with less backlash to boot. That's all simple enough to pull off with cointelpro. So, again, if the system saw him as a threat then he'd be out. He isn't. Doesn't add up right for me personally.

 

[phukkyou2]

@p-tavern you have an Individualistic Attitude about a Community Pandemic.

That type of thinking is Cancerous. And we've been conditioned (in more modern times) to Be For Self and Only About Self. Which is why we aren't getting anywhere.

You bring up good points but they're irrelevant to the bigger picture.

I repeat, we have no Real Real Leaders out there that speak for us and aren't just on some "Kumbyah, let's be peaceful even if we're gettin fucked" shit

 

[p-tavern]

I completely agree with the conditioning, though I'm not sure how I fit the bill of being individualistic in regards to what I've put out in this thread. The only thing I have brought up as far as individuals go is the need to take personal responsibility to do one's own part for the group. I said there is a need to enlighten others, that way everyone becomes a part of a stronger whole. Maybe it sounded different from the outside looking in, in which case I ask you fill me in with a specific example of something I said that is inline with an "individualistic attitude."

I also agree there are no real leaders that are about action, on a large scale level at least. I also don't think Farrakhan is a legit mover. He talks a good game, but that's it. There's no true desire for action beyond rhetoric with him. Just because there is a void doesn't mean we should rush to fill it, without first fully examining the piece we put in place.

I feel a good leader is one that gives people the tools and enthusiasm to organize themselves, not one that tells people what to do or how to think. The leader is nothing in comparison to the enlightenment and power of a group. No man should be idolized, and therefore, no man is above scrutiny. If we're talking about a bigger picture, than one man means nothing, regardless of position.

 

[phukkyou2]

But this is War. The "step back, calm down, and think about it" approach is outdated and frankly we've been doing that.

And no-one is talking idolatry here.

My thing is, why are you going out of your way to tell us to fall back from his Network? Are you Cointel-Pro? Word is out how y'all get down, word to ISIS

 

[p-tavern]

I never suggested anyone step back or calm down. In fact, I specifically said Farrakhan is all talk. So if you're about action, I don't see how he's your man. Feel free to explain otherwise.

Like I said, no one is above scrutiny. You came in here calling people "haters" for criticizing the man, without addressing what was said about him. So if that's not idolatry, what is it?

I didn't say fall back from his network, I said I personally don't trust his intentions. Again, a good leader gets people to organize themselves and the people make the moves from there. He has not bore fruit in that regard, to my knowledge. If he has, feel free to drop something.

So far you have, seemingly intentionally, twisted every point I made, as well as 'put words in my mouth.'

You also never counter anything directly, and most of your responses are generalizations.

I'm not going to stoop to nonsense name calling, but if you're gonna point a finger like that then you'd probably be best to not employ the tactics of the those you claim to be apart from.

I've been nothing short of transparent and clear in all my statements. If you disagree, go ahead and point out something specific that you draw your conclusion from. Otherwise, what are you really doing here?

 

[EyeofAsaru]

I highly suggest my intelligent brothers in here viewing things thru the lens of sound right reasoning to stop speaking to the "mummies" and the mentally dead..

Once he stated he drinks malt liquor,all conversations should of ended

You muthafuckas are not in your right minds