The Lonious Monk
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Dr.Chemix;6201362 said:The Lonious Monk;6201348 said:Dr.Chemix;6201273 said:The Lonious Monk;6201222 said:Ya'll some hateful dudes. lol That's said I don't know either of them, so I can't say if either of them or is genuine or not. I'm just given my perception of them what they show to the public.
Elvis gets a bad wrap though. He always acknowledged that he got his style from Black people. He always acknowledged that his music was from Black people. People like to blame him for robbing those artists, but it was his record company that did that. Elvis wasn't some clever business man. He was just a hick they trained to have style and put on stage. You can say he was overrated which he was, but I don't think he's the culture thief many peg him as.
lol fuck outta here with that horse shit. Elvis didn't acknowledge that shit. Then you go on to say they trained him in his style...yea the fuck right. They watched black folks do it and they copied
Same thing goes for Rolling Stones how they stole their sound to Led Zeppelin...
1) You're wrong. You can hate the man all you want, but he did say when he was young he used to sneak to the clubs on the black side of town just to watch the Blues and Soul artists. He said that on more than one occasison
2) You said the same thing I said at the end. I said his record company trained him to have the black style and stage presence because they knew white people loved black music but didn't care for the black people doing it.
Yea and white folks used to travel to Harlem to fuck black broads and listen to the music but returned to their homes and continued their lives as lawman who inflicted terror on black folks.
C'mon are you that dumb dude or you think I'm dumb? There are ignorant ass white folks who listen to rap all day, fuck black broads and try to be black but can't stand niggas.
Yea, I reiterated my point, that the style was stolen not "taught" by record labels.
You either white or a helluva "yessuh boss" boy...in either case, your nose is too far up Elvis's ass
Do you even know what you're arguing about now? What does any of that have to do with what I said? I don't give a shit about Elvis. I'm just pointing out that the shit people you hate him for is largely untrue. So I'm a "yessuh boss" boy because I acknowledge real events instead of made up shit. I never said Elvis was a great person or some friend to black people. I just said he wasn't the culture thief people make him out to be. Did he get famous because he was a white boy doing black music? Yes, but how is he a thief if he openly acknowledged that he was inspired by black people and got his start from black people.
http://clatl.com/cribnotes/archives/2012/08/20/why-i-stopped-hating-elvis-presley
I learned that the infamous “shine my shoes” quote was never verified, and was told second-hand to what basically was a 1950s tabloid rag out of Boston called Sepia. During the same time that Elvis supposedly gave this “quote,” he did an interview with Jet (yes, the black-owned Jet magazine) in which he spoke openly about the controversy and the origins of rock ’n’ roll as black music. “I never said anything like that, and people who know me know that I wouldn't have said it,” he told Jet. “A lot of people seem to think I started this business. But rock ’n’ roll was here a long time before I came along. Nobody can sing that kind of music like colored people. Let's face it: I can't sing like Fats Domino can. I know that.”
I found quotes from notable black musicians and celebrities, detailing their experiences with Elvis, which ranged from respectful to affectionate. James Brown said, “I wasn't just a fan, I was his brother.” B.B. King was also close to Presley throughout his life and Ike Turner reportedly let Elvis carry his band's gear early on and claimed he was the first man to put Elvis on a stage. Muhammad Ali, who let Elvis live with him while he trained for a bout against Joe Frazier, said, “Elvis was my close personal friend. I don't admire nobody, but Elvis Presley was the sweetest, most humble and nicest man you'd want to know.”
Again, if you want to hate the man, hate him. That's on you. I'm just pointing out that the perception a lot of blacks have regarding him isn't 100% true.