Michael Irvin Says African-Americans Should Support Gay Rights Do you Agree?

[aneed123]

i get the point and most black folk are homo phobic. If a gay person was born gay just like a black person born black they had not choice in the matter and deserve the same civil rights as any other person. The disagree is . We have 500 years of slavery and discrimination against us so we have no room to do the same to anyone else. just my opinion

 

[Darius]

so now we are validating discrimination based on a nominal figure???

cool story bro

i expect nothing less from a poster who had John Amieche's book for an avi

 

[Chef_Taylor]

Where is black people land, economy, banks, school and business that's what he need to support. I don't know why weak ass nigga(rappers actors athletes) don't do shit like make ur own nfl and nba and stop deferring to other people shit.

Truth.........

 

[Figo]

i get the point and most black folk are homo phobic. If a gay person was born gay just like a black person born black they had not choice in the matter and deserve the same civil rights as any other person. The disagree is . We have 500 years of slavery and discrimination against us so we have no room to do the same to anyone else. just my opinion

bruh, how could a man born gay?? what type of shit is that? That is the excuse most Americans use.

 

[GettinLo]

" want to legislate what goes on in people's bedrooms"

this is an statement that i find troubling. all sorts of things can go on in people's bedrooms. beastiality, rape, incest, pedophelia, etc...now i'm not comparing that to homosexuality, i'm just saying people are into other shit, not just regular hetero and homo shit. so what I am wondering is how someone who on the one hand wants all people to have the freedom and the acceptance to practice their sexual orientations without persecution or penalty and then turn around and say a different sort of sexual attraction is wrong. if people are truly born gay, then i think its safe to say that anyone who believes that would have to believe they are born with other sexual orientations, and if thats the case, then why shouldn't they be allowed the same freedoms?

For clarification purposes I’ll revise my statement and say:

And as a Black man, I cannot side with White bigots (who support small government but want to legislate what goes on in the bedrooms of consenting adults), who attempt to separate and segregate people so that Blacks are against gays and Latinos are against Blacks and so on.

I do think you’re splitting hairs and making a leap that says homosexuality is linked to or is somehow related to bestiality, pedophilia and/or inbreeding. While I’m no human sexuality expert (I did take a class in college tho LOL), I’m pretty sure that none of those acts/sicknesses are remotely related to homosexuality. What you’re doing is taking an extreme act and lumping that in with the norm. It’s no different than saying that we shouldn’t allow a Black family into our community because they’re all gangbangers and thugs, or all White people are racist because a percentage of them are and so on. We can find extreme elements in any race, religion, sexual orientation, culture, political system and any other cadre of individuals.

Like I said, I support Human Rights, and I believe that all LEGAL humans in the US should share the same basic rights.

 

[aneed123]

bruh, how could a man born gay?? what type of shit is that? That is the excuse most Americans use.

stop being so closed minded. I counsel and work with a lot of gay kids. Some will tell u they were born that way. Aint no excuse,every situation isnt set in stone or the same some are born gay, some chose, some molested etc...

 

[ya boi g]

I don't see anything wrong with giving everybody their rights. And I can dig what Micheal Irvin is saying, I don't see how any black person would be against it, Im not saying you should be out in the streets protesting cause I sure as hell wont, but im not against it. Let them have all the rights that everyone else have. Them being able to live their lives and rep the benefits of marriage will have no effect on me and how I live my life.

stop being so closed minded. I counsel and work with a lot of gay kids. Some will tell u they were born that way. Aint no excuse,every situation isnt set in stone or the same some are born gay, some chose, some molested etc...

Exactly........ Im no expert but what makes people think you cant be born gay? So you can be born with all these defects, even being born with both sex organs but cant be born gay?

 

[GettinLo]

I don't see anything wrong with giving everybody their rights. And I can dig what Micheal Irvin is saying, I don't see how any black person would be against it, Im not saying you should be out in the streets protesting cause I sure as hell wont, but im not against it. Let them have all the rights that everyone else have. Them being able to live their lives and rep the benefits of marriage will have no effect on me and how I live my life.

Exactly........ Im no expert but what makes people think you cant be born gay? So you can be born with all these defects, even being born with both sex organs but cant be born gay?

You know people love to seem smart by using dumb ass logic...

 

[la2lv]

but they don't kill you now. You can't even get fired. Your never going to have everyone accept it

Nah bruh, people are still getting killed for it. There's a trial going on right now where this 17 year old is facing 53 to life because he killed a classmate just because he was gay...dude was 14 when he pulled the trigger.

 

[Olorun22]

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[JadaRoss]

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[DarkRaiden]

Unless the 'born gay' people also support the 'born pedophile' idea. I don't see how you could believe one to be true and not the other.

but thats right, you can't compare the two. just as there is no accurate comparision between gays and blacks.

one group is struggling for the privilege to legally marry.

the other group struggled to be actually counted as a citizen, to have a say in the political process, to live a life of freedom, to be served at restaraunt, to be able to use decent bathrooms, to have decent schools, to not get the shit beat out of them while doing work for which they received no pay.

Co-sign, truth.com

So you're saying that black people are pedophiles too now? Wtf?

Gays have faced just as much discrimination as blacks/Jews/Native Americans throughout history. The only difference being that unless one was flamboyant, you couldnt tell that they were gay. Many of the arguments against gay marriage were taken verbatim from the arguments against interracial marriage so how can you not see the parallels between the two. Being gay back then was a lot like the people trying to "pass" for white. If you were discovered, they'd kill you.

No, gays were not enslaved and killed, and raped, and beaten, and tortured like blacks were in AMERICA. Which is what we're talking about. And even if they were, they can hide it and just act straight, a black person can't hide it, it's their skin color, so it's waay different.

And tbh if people can be born gay, with defects, with both sex organs, than they probably can be born as a pedophile and with bestiality, not that I believe any of that.

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The fuck is that??

 

[darkstarr8]

Oppression and discrimination are oppression and discrimination no matter how severe it is. And as a Black man, I cannot side with White bigots (who support small government but want to legislate what goes on in people's bedrooms), who attempt to separate and segregate people so that Blacks are against gays and Latinos are against Blacks and so on. The Gay issue is a non-issue, it's just part of the okey doke that Whitey sets up so that minorities see differences instead of commonalities which allows them to keep the status quo.

Regarding what gays stand for. I think they stand for the same things that we all want, equal rights and protections under the law. I think what you're referring to is the flamboyant gay lifestyle, that 99.999999% of everyone finds disturbing and over the top.

This 100%...

 

[darkstarr8]

Why do people keep bringing up pedophilia and bestiality? Animals and children can't give legal consent. Somebody's sexual attraction to them doesn't matter.

 

[blackrain]

" want to legislate what goes on in people's bedrooms"

this is an statement that i find troubling. all sorts of things can go on in people's bedrooms. beastiality, rape, incest, pedophelia, etc...now i'm not comparing that to homosexuality, i'm just saying people are into other shit, not just regular hetero and homo shit. so what I am wondering is how someone who on the one hand wants all people to have the freedom and the acceptance to practice their sexual orientations without persecution or penalty and then turn around and say a different sort of sexual attraction is wrong. if people are truly born gay, then i think its safe to say that anyone who believes that would have to believe they are born with other sexual orientations, and if thats the case, then why shouldn't they be allowed the same

freedoms?

Two consenting adults choosing to fuck is nowhere near a child being forced to have sex by an adult.

 

[blackrain]

Where is black people land, economy, banks, school and business that's what he need to support. I don't know why weak ass nigga(rappers actors athletes) don't do shit like make ur own nfl and nba and stop deferring to other people shit.

Start their own entire league? I understand people want black athletes to do certain things, but let's be realistic. No new sports leagues are going take out he NBA and NFL....

 

[rapmastermind]

Two consenting adults choosing to fuck is nowhere near a child being forced to have sex by an adult.

Exactly, I don't get why people compare being gay to Pedophilia or bestiality. Yes there are sexual disorders but the child is not consenting to that adult, they are being forced. That damn animal doesn't want to fuck you, you are forcing it so when people compare that to Homosexuality it's not really logical to me. In my view religion or not ppl need to move on from the Gay Issue, especially us black people. They are here, they are in your family, you probably have friends in the closet. The Black Community especially is in denial which is why there is a huge DL community among the black race.

Overall to me Straight people are the issue, If straight people just let gay people be themselves then maybe there wouldn't be so many DL brothers or gays hiding in the closet. They are in the closet cause they are terrified of losing family and friends and being judged for who they are. Anyways, I know there are Gay Football Players, just like Basketball, Baseball and other sports. There are gay rappers and singers. People need to just move on, it's a none issue for me, In the words of Jay Z, what you eat don't make me shit. So what they do don't affect my life as a straight man. Just cause another man likes a man doesn't affect me liking women. But sadly some straight people can't separate the two. With that said, No Homo at this Michael Irvin Cover, lol:

 

[Figo]

stop being so closed minded. I counsel and work with a lot of gay kids. Some will tell u they were born that way. Aint no excuse,every situation isnt set in stone or the same some are born gay, some chose, some molested etc...

define what born gay is. you already in that zone Atlanta which is dominated by homosexual. i don't understand the lady gaga term " they where born gay" bullshit. to me its a choice, what they choose. as I said, this is an American thing. I ain't being ignorant either. i don't care who is fucking who an all that kinda gossiping bullshit.

 

[Olorun22]

Start their own entire league? I understand people want black athletes to do certain things, but let's be realistic. No new sports leagues are going take out he NBA and NFL....

Just another dumb nigga! Black are the NBA n NFL

 

[blackrain]

define what born gay is. you already in that zone Atlanta which is dominated by homosexual. i don't understand the lady gaga term " they where born gay" bullshit. to me its a choice, what they choose. as I said, this is an American thing. I ain't being ignorant either. i don't care who is fucking who an all that kinda gossiping bullshit.

Can you remember the moment you decided you like pussy? I can't I just realized one day that I'm attracted to women...I didn't have to think about it at all...to say somebody chose to be gay is saying you can choose to be straight and nobody has ever been able to pinpoint that moment