LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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bambu;c-10078280 said:
That approach is null and void in divorce courts bruh
That approach is null and void in divorce courts bruh
MoneyPowerRespect
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Circumstance BREEDS submission. Word to these Israelite Pick-me's...
A LOT of truth spoken tho.
A LOT of truth spoken tho.
LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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MoneyPowerRespect;c-10078303 said:
Bonsoir madame
Can you elaborate please?
Idk i feel like blaming everything on feminism is the same reaction as feminists blaming everything on men.
Everything works hand in hand, both sides feeding off each other.
If everyone took personal accountability most problems wouldnt exist but ppl like to group up and oppose each other until they become opposite extremes and the boat gets tilted all the way left, then all the way right, til we all get flipped over.
So yeah society aint shit and is easily manipulated
Everything works hand in hand, both sides feeding off each other.
If everyone took personal accountability most problems wouldnt exist but ppl like to group up and oppose each other until they become opposite extremes and the boat gets tilted all the way left, then all the way right, til we all get flipped over.
So yeah society aint shit and is easily manipulated
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LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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Go figure;c-10078344 said:
Ok we got you bruh. However what are the solutions?
5th Letter
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Men Going Their Own Way is something created by white supremacist males to combat the white feminists.
Splackavelli
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MoneyPowerRespect;c-10077759 said:
I don't see mtgow as a sweeping accusation of women. Its more of an awareness .it's learning the signs of a bad woman being able to detect ain't shitness and not allowing yourself to be a victim. Its about avoiding aimtmshit women not avoidimgmwomen completely. Its more or less getting the bad weeds out of the garden ,taking the bad apples out of the bunc
sunlord;c-10078250 said:
so what youre saying and is evident is that giving women the freedom to live like they want to live with freedom to do what they want was not a good thing and these broads are proven time and time again throughout history of making terrible decisions for themselves that go against their own well being???
Madame_CJSkywalker
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LordZuko;c-10077493 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10077331 said:LordZuko;c-10077175 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10076816 said:
Mgtow is men highlighting all the ways that they can be exploited and avoiding the pitfalls of patriarchy
Fixed that for you
Patriarchy is a general clown term that feminists throw around to cop out to their shitty actions.
For example feminists complain that it is patriarchy that is responsible for women being granted automatic custody of children, when in fact it was feminists who argued the "tender years doctrine" that young children need their mothers more than their fathers.
In the criminal justice system women routinely receive sentences that are anywhere from 40% to 60% reduction of what a man would receive. Especially in crimes of statutory rape. Feminists have never argued "benevolent sexism" when it comes to negative consequences.
The 1 in 4 rape culture hysteria began by Andrea dworkin has snowballed into this college climate where specifically college males can be accused of rape, and based upon the preponderance of the evidence, whether or not it could be true, he is then expelled his record irrevocably tarnished. Even when it comes out the girl was lying, nothing happens to her, the boy is not reinstated.
Even girls who engage in the same behavior that gets boys expelled as rapists, don't suffer these consequences. Feminists don't argue that these girls should be charged or expelled.
Women have falsely accused men of rape, received financial compensation as a result. It later comes out that they lie but the men who go to jail behind this are never compensated for their lost time and destroyed lives.
yes in 1839 it was a woman who helped convince an all male british parliament enact the “tender years” doctrine, in which it was believed that children were best served by being left primarily with their mother. the thinking was men needed to be in the workforce, and would not have time for the woman’s work of parenting. women were inherently better parents. etc
prior to that in the event of a divorce mothers had no rights because most the rights women possessed derived through their fathers or husbands. a social organization marked by the supremacy of the father in the family resulting in the legal dependence of wives and children. the woman who spear headed the campaign for the doctrine was inspired to act after she herself had been deprived from seeing her children after a bitter divorce
today the doctrine has been replaced by the "best interests of the child" doctrine in the majority of states
that said, there is little to no substantial evidence that false rape accusations are this big and growing problem. most rapes and sexual assaults go unreported. while false rape accusations do occur, we also have evidence that many accusations of sexual assault and rape ignored or dismissed. there have been numerous of times were rapist are only given a slap on the wrist. instances of rapists being granted custody of the children they share with their victims. we have evidence that rape investigations, including rape kits, are systemically mishandled by local and state law enforcement. the system is a mess. but i hear very little outrage from men rights groups when the injustice doesn't support their narrative
also just because a rape or sexual assault accusation does not lead to charges or a conviction that does not mean that any one lied as you and ur brethren like to suggest. not to mention there have been times
i will admit that recently some of the more recent remedies that have been pushed to protect sexual assault victims and rectify mistakes made in the past are unjust to men ...said as much numerous times on here
so yea there is bullshit and hypocrisy.... on both sides, that is
both men and women are capable and have been guilty of perpetuating and enforcing strict gender roles
(i.e. women better parents, men better providers, women are weak, men are better leaders ) and at times used as a means to further their individual and or collective causes. for example, when women were either outlawed or faced barriers when it came to voting and fully participating in politics, owning property or taking out loans from financial institutions without the co-signature of a man. martial rape being a impossibility
and on a societal, global scale i believe there is a bias in terms of leadership and authority that favors men... as a result men run just about everything. the government. religious institutions. way more male CEOs. entertainment industry. male dominated industries, career fields are more valued
you don't want to call it 'patriarchy' cool...but the same pressure placed on men to conform to the standard ideals of masculinity which you've argued drives men to suicide in higher numbers derives from the same source as the pressure placed on women to be meek and submissive; dress modestly; infantilized women
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bambu;c-10078391 said:
MONEY cannot always be recovered and liberty cannot always be reestablished.... what it takes a life time to build can be destroyed in a moment. RAPE accusations stay with you forever they are a matter of public record, a man can have all the money and liberty but once a reputation is tarnished it's sullied and there's no changing that.
A female can legally use the apparatuses of this society against you and all our concepts of "MANHOOD" mean nothing until the primary foundation of manhood is reestablished and that foundation is MALE AUTHORITY. Your level of "MANHOOD" is directly proportional to your level of AUTHORITY, authority over ourselves, women, children, family, community and government must be reborn.
LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10078450 said:LordZuko;c-10077493 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10077331 said:LordZuko;c-10077175 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10076816 said:
Mgtow is men highlighting all the ways that they can be exploited and avoiding the pitfalls of patriarchy
Fixed that for you
Patriarchy is a general clown term that feminists throw around to cop out to their shitty actions.
For example feminists complain that it is patriarchy that is responsible for women being granted automatic custody of children, when in fact it was feminists who argued the "tender years doctrine" that young children need their mothers more than their fathers.
In the criminal justice system women routinely receive sentences that are anywhere from 40% to 60% reduction of what a man would receive. Especially in crimes of statutory rape. Feminists have never argued "benevolent sexism" when it comes to negative consequences.
The 1 in 4 rape culture hysteria began by Andrea dworkin has snowballed into this college climate where specifically college males can be accused of rape, and based upon the preponderance of the evidence, whether or not it could be true, he is then expelled his record irrevocably tarnished. Even when it comes out the girl was lying, nothing happens to her, the boy is not reinstated.
Even girls who engage in the same behavior that gets boys expelled as rapists, don't suffer these consequences. Feminists don't argue that these girls should be charged or expelled.
Women have falsely accused men of rape, received financial compensation as a result. It later comes out that they lie but the men who go to jail behind this are never compensated for their lost time and destroyed lives.
yes in 1839 it was a woman who helped convince an all male british parliament enact the “tender years” doctrine, in which it was believed that children were best served by being left primarily with their mother. the thinking was men needed to be in the workforce, and would not have time for the woman’s work of parenting. women were inherently better parents. etc
prior to that in the event of a divorce mothers had no rights because most the rights women possessed derived through their fathers or husbands. a social organization marked by the supremacy of the father in the family resulting in the legal dependence of wives and children. the woman who spear headed the campaign for the doctrine was inspired to act after she herself had been deprived from seeing her children after a bitter divorce
today the doctrine has been replaced by the "best interests of the child" doctrine in the majority of states
that said, there is little to no substantial evidence that false rape accusations are this big and growing problem. most rapes and sexual assaults go unreported. while false rape accusations do occur, we also have evidence that many accusations of sexual assault and rape ignored or dismissed. there have been numerous of times were rapist are only given a slap on the wrist. instances of rapists being granted custody of the children they share with their victims. we have evidence that rape investigations, including rape kits, are systemically mishandled by local and state law enforcement. but i hear very little outrage from men rights groups when the injustice doesn't support their narrative
also just because a rape or sexual assault accusation does not lead to charges or a conviction that does not mean that any one lied as you and ur brethren like to suggest. not to mention there have been times
i will admit that recently some of the more recent remedies that have been pushed to protect sexual assault victims and rectify mistakes made in the past are unjust to men ...said as much numerous times on here
so yea there is bullshit.... on both sides, that is
both men and women are capable and have been guilty of perpetuating and enforcing strict gender roles
(i.e. women better parents, men better providers, women are weak, men are better leaders ) and at times used as a means to further their individual and or collective causes. for example, when women were either outlawed or faced barriers when it came to voting and fully participating in politics, owning property or taking out loans from financial institutions without the co-signature of a man. martial rape being a impossibility
and on a societal, global scale i believe there is a bias in terms of leadership and authority that favors men... as a result men run everything. the government. religious institutions. way more male CEOs. entertainment industry
you don't want to call it 'patriarchy' cool...but the same pressure placed on men to conform to the standard ideals of masculinity which you've argued drives men to substance abuse and even suicide derives from the same source as the pressure placed on women to be meek and submissive; dress modestly; infantilized women
Damn FINALLY you recognize that there is bullshit on both sides.
Bravo. Keep on that way sister.
What are the solutions?
texas409;c-10078449 said:
YES. HOWEVER If women want to live in a world without male authority then they are going to have to be held up to the same standards that men are held up to.....right now they are not. We are given the illusion that women want to be equal to men but they really don't want to be what they want is all the authority but none of the responsibility.
Madame_CJSkywalker
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sunlord;c-10078186 said:
what about our biology dictates that men run everything? especially in contemporary times
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LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY;c-10078235 said:
basically he is arguing women are just tall children
can't take him seriously
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