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Cain;c-9907118 said:gee757;c-9907109 said:ChiCity;c-9906512 said:gee757;c-9906435 said:Big Sean got a trak wit the shady Klansmen so white supremacy accepts him now meek has not & will not sell out like that for record sells........ Wins and losses is a dope hip hop album wit no Quentin Miller s involved
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWy4YlVBdSh/?hl=en
Nah, you being delusional and bias
Sean making anthems that could be played on commercials and movies and that's why he selling
IDFWU ain't have shit to do with Eminem, it was an anthem. The same could be said for Bounce Back.
Lol I don't know why I even bother posting in here (Reason), there's only the extreme of the spectrum a majority of the time
Nah.....Sean has records wit crackkka s like feminem & Justin Bieber so he's gonna sell more then meek cuz he's sold out/crossed over......meek is a blk street rapper Sean is a blk pop rapper & Tyler is a Oreo cracka rapper there is really no comparing the 3...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXE_lRgB8HU/?hl=en
Lol by what you're saying Tyler should out sold both Meek and Sean because he's a black kid doing goofy white boy skate hiphop. Who has/had a show on TV basically the black version of Jackass. So you're logic about Sean is wrong.
Dude has two or three huge singles that have no white boy backing him. Signed to a Chicago nigga also so I'm going to have to disagree with what you're yapping about.
Also Meek>>>>>>Sean rapping and this Wins and Losses tape better than anything Sean and Tyler ever released
ChiCity;c-9907178 said:@gee757 you're an idiot. Respectfully
gee757;c-9907136 said:Cain;c-9907118 said:gee757;c-9907109 said:ChiCity;c-9906512 said:gee757;c-9906435 said:Big Sean got a trak wit the shady Klansmen so white supremacy accepts him now meek has not & will not sell out like that for record sells........ Wins and losses is a dope hip hop album wit no Quentin Miller s involved
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWy4YlVBdSh/?hl=en
Nah, you being delusional and bias
Sean making anthems that could be played on commercials and movies and that's why he selling
IDFWU ain't have shit to do with Eminem, it was an anthem. The same could be said for Bounce Back.
Lol I don't know why I even bother posting in here (Reason), there's only the extreme of the spectrum a majority of the time
Nah.....Sean has records wit crackkka s like feminem & Justin Bieber so he's gonna sell more then meek cuz he's sold out/crossed over......meek is a blk street rapper Sean is a blk pop rapper & Tyler is a Oreo cracka rapper there is really no comparing the 3...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXE_lRgB8HU/?hl=en
Lol by what you're saying Tyler should out sold both Meek and Sean because he's a black kid doing goofy white boy skate hiphop. Who has/had a show on TV basically the black version of Jackass. So you're logic about Sean is wrong.
Dude has two or three huge singles that have no white boy backing him. Signed to a Chicago nigga also so I'm going to have to disagree with what you're yapping about.
Also Meek>>>>>>Sean rapping and this Wins and Losses tape better than anything Sean and Tyler ever released
Nah Tyler is doing his numbers cuz he is appealing 2the white buying crowd.....same as Sean he got records wit devils like Marshall & Justin so his fanbase is gonna b bigger then Meeks......meek is a blk street rapper making trax like Yung blk America Tyler & Sean core fanbase don't wanna here that nigga shit...
Cain;c-9907118 said:gee757;c-9907109 said:ChiCity;c-9906512 said:gee757;c-9906435 said:Big Sean got a trak wit the shady Klansmen so white supremacy accepts him now meek has not & will not sell out like that for record sells........ Wins and losses is a dope hip hop album wit no Quentin Miller s involved
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWy4YlVBdSh/?hl=en
Nah, you being delusional and bias
Sean making anthems that could be played on commercials and movies and that's why he selling
IDFWU ain't have shit to do with Eminem, it was an anthem. The same could be said for Bounce Back.
Lol I don't know why I even bother posting in here (Reason), there's only the extreme of the spectrum a majority of the time
Nah.....Sean has records wit crackkka s like feminem & Justin Bieber so he's gonna sell more then meek cuz he's sold out/crossed over......meek is a blk street rapper Sean is a blk pop rapper & Tyler is a Oreo cracka rapper there is really no comparing the 3...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXE_lRgB8HU/?hl=en
Lol by what you're saying Tyler should out sold both Meek and Sean because he's a black kid doing goofy white boy skate hiphop. Who has/had a show on TV basically the black version of Jackass. So you're logic about Sean is wrong.
Dude has two or three huge singles that have no white boy backing him. Signed to a Chicago nigga also so I'm going to have to disagree with what you're yapping about.
Also Meek>>>>>>Sean rapping and this Wins and Losses tape better than anything Sean and Tyler ever released
ChiCity;c-9906307 said:blackrain;c-9905230 said:ChiCity;c-9904432 said:DaBull;c-9903011 said:meek did 170 on debut
then did 250 on follow up
now he at 85-90...meaning cats like Big Sean is gonna double his sales (Sean did like 150-160 last album)
he wont be rolling 30 deep for long....that gets expensive
Stop it b, Sean on did 85 first week also
No one outside of the HEAVY HITTERS with a growing following are grabbing sales like that. Everyone else (the Seans, the Meeks, they Tylers, the Wales, the Ross's, the 2 Chainz) is eating off they core fans.
No doubt the beef with Drake hurt him. Mainly because unlike other generations of hip hop fans, these kids to today hold grudges like the single mothers that raised them
Nigga's was hell bent on not even listening based off the fact he beefed with Drake, broke up with Nicki, fell off some damn stairs.
The music speaks tho, it's his best album IMO and the shit easily has more replay value than every album out not titled Damn or 4:44.
Nobody stopped listening to Meek because of that shit. Niggas still hyped is last mixtape and the Meekend Music series he did. If anything turned fans away it was Meek self admitted lunchin out on the internet too damn much over every little thing
While I agree with the rest, the bolded is false
I personally know quite a few ppl that don't fuck with Meek because of the shit I mentioned prior. Granted, these weren't Meek super fans to begin with but they were at least checking for him.
After the aforementioned things, even during DC4, I heard, fuck Meek. He emotional (why he break up with Nicki), he can't rap (who beefs with the biggest artist out *Drake*).
I won't even say Meek had the craziest following on here, but niggas went from he cool but he loud to HE LOUD, he this he that. This thread alone spent more time talking about Meek personally than the album.
I don't see how an unbiased listener can deny this album. Meek on his shit with this one. Might literally be his most complete project to date.
The growth is crazy. I ain't saying he a crazy super duper lyrical miracle rapper but the shit is so easy to digest. He hug his lane so hard it reminds me still of DMX.
So yeah, while a lot of things hurt his image (Social media), the fact is that fans can't move past his perceived 'Ls'. Even when the music is good.
His album is nice is all I'm trying say. I think the album is hella nice.
Cain;c-9907192 said:gee757;c-9907136 said:Cain;c-9907118 said:gee757;c-9907109 said:ChiCity;c-9906512 said:gee757;c-9906435 said:Big Sean got a trak wit the shady Klansmen so white supremacy accepts him now meek has not & will not sell out like that for record sells........ Wins and losses is a dope hip hop album wit no Quentin Miller s involved
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWy4YlVBdSh/?hl=en
Nah, you being delusional and bias
Sean making anthems that could be played on commercials and movies and that's why he selling
IDFWU ain't have shit to do with Eminem, it was an anthem. The same could be said for Bounce Back.
Lol I don't know why I even bother posting in here (Reason), there's only the extreme of the spectrum a majority of the time
Nah.....Sean has records wit crackkka s like feminem & Justin Bieber so he's gonna sell more then meek cuz he's sold out/crossed over......meek is a blk street rapper Sean is a blk pop rapper & Tyler is a Oreo cracka rapper there is really no comparing the 3...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXE_lRgB8HU/?hl=en
Lol by what you're saying Tyler should out sold both Meek and Sean because he's a black kid doing goofy white boy skate hiphop. Who has/had a show on TV basically the black version of Jackass. So you're logic about Sean is wrong.
Dude has two or three huge singles that have no white boy backing him. Signed to a Chicago nigga also so I'm going to have to disagree with what you're yapping about.
Also Meek>>>>>>Sean rapping and this Wins and Losses tape better than anything Sean and Tyler ever released
Nah Tyler is doing his numbers cuz he is appealing 2the white buying crowd.....same as Sean he got records wit devils like Marshall & Justin so his fanbase is gonna b bigger then Meeks......meek is a blk street rapper making trax like Yung blk America Tyler & Sean core fanbase don't wanna here that nigga shit...
Lol Tyler has never out sold Meek in any aspect Big Sean and Meek both have one gold album and one Platinum album. Their numbers are neck and neck.
gee757;c-9907220 said:Cain;c-9907192 said:gee757;c-9907136 said:Cain;c-9907118 said:gee757;c-9907109 said:ChiCity;c-9906512 said:gee757;c-9906435 said:Big Sean got a trak wit the shady Klansmen so white supremacy accepts him now meek has not & will not sell out like that for record sells........ Wins and losses is a dope hip hop album wit no Quentin Miller s involved
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWy4YlVBdSh/?hl=en
Nah, you being delusional and bias
Sean making anthems that could be played on commercials and movies and that's why he selling
IDFWU ain't have shit to do with Eminem, it was an anthem. The same could be said for Bounce Back.
Lol I don't know why I even bother posting in here (Reason), there's only the extreme of the spectrum a majority of the time
Nah.....Sean has records wit crackkka s like feminem & Justin Bieber so he's gonna sell more then meek cuz he's sold out/crossed over......meek is a blk street rapper Sean is a blk pop rapper & Tyler is a Oreo cracka rapper there is really no comparing the 3...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXE_lRgB8HU/?hl=en
Lol by what you're saying Tyler should out sold both Meek and Sean because he's a black kid doing goofy white boy skate hiphop. Who has/had a show on TV basically the black version of Jackass. So you're logic about Sean is wrong.
Dude has two or three huge singles that have no white boy backing him. Signed to a Chicago nigga also so I'm going to have to disagree with what you're yapping about.
Also Meek>>>>>>Sean rapping and this Wins and Losses tape better than anything Sean and Tyler ever released
Nah Tyler is doing his numbers cuz he is appealing 2the white buying crowd.....same as Sean he got records wit devils like Marshall & Justin so his fanbase is gonna b bigger then Meeks......meek is a blk street rapper making trax like Yung blk America Tyler & Sean core fanbase don't wanna here that nigga shit...
Lol Tyler has never out sold Meek in any aspect Big Sean and Meek both have one gold album and one Platinum album. Their numbers are neck and neck.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Meeks 1st album more successful than Sean's??? Sean always had a hot single but he really didn't take off selling albums till the Justin collabo & he started dating the Glee girl& Disney characters.....I'm not mad @ Sean or Tyler it's just stewpid to compare the 3 cuz the only thing they got n common is they is all blk but they make different musik & have a different fanbase..
Cain;c-9907241 said:gee757;c-9907220 said:Cain;c-9907192 said:gee757;c-9907136 said:Cain;c-9907118 said:gee757;c-9907109 said:ChiCity;c-9906512 said:gee757;c-9906435 said:Big Sean got a trak wit the shady Klansmen so white supremacy accepts him now meek has not & will not sell out like that for record sells........ Wins and losses is a dope hip hop album wit no Quentin Miller s involved
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWy4YlVBdSh/?hl=en
Nah, you being delusional and bias
Sean making anthems that could be played on commercials and movies and that's why he selling
IDFWU ain't have shit to do with Eminem, it was an anthem. The same could be said for Bounce Back.
Lol I don't know why I even bother posting in here (Reason), there's only the extreme of the spectrum a majority of the time
Nah.....Sean has records wit crackkka s like feminem & Justin Bieber so he's gonna sell more then meek cuz he's sold out/crossed over......meek is a blk street rapper Sean is a blk pop rapper & Tyler is a Oreo cracka rapper there is really no comparing the 3...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXE_lRgB8HU/?hl=en
Lol by what you're saying Tyler should out sold both Meek and Sean because he's a black kid doing goofy white boy skate hiphop. Who has/had a show on TV basically the black version of Jackass. So you're logic about Sean is wrong.
Dude has two or three huge singles that have no white boy backing him. Signed to a Chicago nigga also so I'm going to have to disagree with what you're yapping about.
Also Meek>>>>>>Sean rapping and this Wins and Losses tape better than anything Sean and Tyler ever released
Nah Tyler is doing his numbers cuz he is appealing 2the white buying crowd.....same as Sean he got records wit devils like Marshall & Justin so his fanbase is gonna b bigger then Meeks......meek is a blk street rapper making trax like Yung blk America Tyler & Sean core fanbase don't wanna here that nigga shit...
Lol Tyler has never out sold Meek in any aspect Big Sean and Meek both have one gold album and one Platinum album. Their numbers are neck and neck.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Meeks 1st album more successful than Sean's??? Sean always had a hot single but he really didn't take off selling albums till the Justin collabo & he started dating the Glee girl& Disney characters.....I'm not mad @ Sean or Tyler it's just stewpid to compare the 3 cuz the only thing they got n common is they is all blk but they make different musik & have a different fanbase..
Like I said no single from Sean with a cracka on it sold. His biggest single is the joint with the hood nigga E-40. So using Disney and cracka narrative is wrong. Meek and Sean ALBUM sales are tied Sean does have more singles.
blackrain;c-9907209 said:ChiCity;c-9906307 said:blackrain;c-9905230 said:ChiCity;c-9904432 said:DaBull;c-9903011 said:meek did 170 on debut
then did 250 on follow up
now he at 85-90...meaning cats like Big Sean is gonna double his sales (Sean did like 150-160 last album)
he wont be rolling 30 deep for long....that gets expensive
Stop it b, Sean on did 85 first week also
No one outside of the HEAVY HITTERS with a growing following are grabbing sales like that. Everyone else (the Seans, the Meeks, they Tylers, the Wales, the Ross's, the 2 Chainz) is eating off they core fans.
No doubt the beef with Drake hurt him. Mainly because unlike other generations of hip hop fans, these kids to today hold grudges like the single mothers that raised them
Nigga's was hell bent on not even listening based off the fact he beefed with Drake, broke up with Nicki, fell off some damn stairs.
The music speaks tho, it's his best album IMO and the shit easily has more replay value than every album out not titled Damn or 4:44.
Nobody stopped listening to Meek because of that shit. Niggas still hyped is last mixtape and the Meekend Music series he did. If anything turned fans away it was Meek self admitted lunchin out on the internet too damn much over every little thing
While I agree with the rest, the bolded is false
I personally know quite a few ppl that don't fuck with Meek because of the shit I mentioned prior. Granted, these weren't Meek super fans to begin with but they were at least checking for him.
After the aforementioned things, even during DC4, I heard, fuck Meek. He emotional (why he break up with Nicki), he can't rap (who beefs with the biggest artist out *Drake*).
I won't even say Meek had the craziest following on here, but niggas went from he cool but he loud to HE LOUD, he this he that. This thread alone spent more time talking about Meek personally than the album.
I don't see how an unbiased listener can deny this album. Meek on his shit with this one. Might literally be his most complete project to date.
The growth is crazy. I ain't saying he a crazy super duper lyrical miracle rapper but the shit is so easy to digest. He hug his lane so hard it reminds me still of DMX.
So yeah, while a lot of things hurt his image (Social media), the fact is that fans can't move past his perceived 'Ls'. Even when the music is good.
His album is nice is all I'm trying say. I think the album is hella nice.
Meek ability to rap has never been in question even when people made jokes about him constantly talking about Rolex watches, "benji" and that damn Wraith. Problem with those "Ls" is they directly contradict the image Meek puts out there. He literally engaged in everything he kept calling corny and lame. Thats probably why some people can't move past it. Because he's often not been who he said he is.
GetoBoy;c-9906773 said:This forum ain't nothing but a bunch of DJ Akademics niggaz care more about numbers then if the album hot or not..... Only bout 5 rappers doing 250k first week these days Meek not one of them but neither is 99% of other rappers why does that matter
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9908181 said:GetoBoy;c-9906773 said:This forum ain't nothing but a bunch of DJ Akademics niggaz care more about numbers then if the album hot or not..... Only bout 5 rappers doing 250k first week these days Meek not one of them but neither is 99% of other rappers why does that matter
Nobody expected meek to do 250K. However if he can't crack 100K after the momentum from DC4 that is a failure. Meeks last album sold very very well. I think it just went plat as well. But to do under 100K and get beat by tyler is an L. Now idk what the final numbers are but anything over 100K is a win for meek.
You can't brag about jays sales records in the 4:44 and then not consider sales as part of the equation of this album. Now the album is decent content wise. But how the public responds to it via sales and streams is another aspect.
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9908181 said:GetoBoy;c-9906773 said:This forum ain't nothing but a bunch of DJ Akademics niggaz care more about numbers then if the album hot or not..... Only bout 5 rappers doing 250k first week these days Meek not one of them but neither is 99% of other rappers why does that matter
Nobody expected meek to do 250K. However if he can't crack 100K after the momentum from DC4 that is a failure. Meeks last album sold very very well. I think it just went plat as well. But to do under 100K and get beat by tyler is an L. Now idk what the final numbers are but anything over 100K is a win for meek.
You can't brag about jays sales records in the 4:44 and then not consider sales as part of the equation of this album. Now the album is decent content wise. But how the public responds to it via sales and streams is another aspect.
gee757;c-9908215 said:Tyler rappin about kissing white boys paid off his numbers r no surprise he's appealing to the buying crowd.....this is a win for meek doing 86k the 1st wk those r great numbers for a blk street rapper.... I c squares wanna compare dc4 sells wit this but there is no Nikki on w&l like dc4 so meek doing 80k+ the 1st wk being a blk street rapper is great this album has legs too go at least gold....that plat look was a 1 time thing for meek when he was wit the Barbie & the barbs & chammy/Ken dolls getting them popstar numbers...
gee757;c-9908215 said:Tyler rappin about kissing white boys paid off his numbers r no surprise he's appealing to the buying crowd.....this is a win for meek doing 86k the 1st wk those r great numbers for a blk street rapper.... I c squares wanna compare dc4 sells wit this but there is no Nikki on w&l like dc4 so meek doing 80k+ the 1st wk being a blk street rapper is great this album has legs too go at least gold....that plat look was a 1 time thing for meek when he was wit the Barbie & the barbs & chammy/Ken dolls getting them popstar numbers...
KnowReasonForPeace;c-9908234 said:gee757;c-9908215 said:Tyler rappin about kissing white boys paid off his numbers r no surprise he's appealing to the buying crowd.....this is a win for meek doing 86k the 1st wk those r great numbers for a blk street rapper.... I c squares wanna compare dc4 sells wit this but there is no Nikki on w&l like dc4 so meek doing 80k+ the 1st wk being a blk street rapper is great this album has legs too go at least gold....that plat look was a 1 time thing for meek when he was wit the Barbie & the barbs & chammy/Ken dolls getting them popstar numbers...
Stop making excuses bitch. The sales didnt match the buzz. Gold is reachable but itll take the same amount of time his previous album took to go platinum. Pretty good album regardless so be happy for your boy you fat fuck.
gee757;c-9908215 said:Tyler rappin about kissing white boys paid off his numbers r no surprise he's appealing to the buying crowd.....this is a win for meek doing 86k the 1st wk those r great numbers for a blk street rapper.... I c squares wanna compare dc4 sells wit this but there is no Nikki on w&l like dc4 so meek doing 80k+ the 1st wk being a blk street rapper is great this album has legs too go at least gold....that plat look was a 1 time thing for meek when he was wit the Barbie & the barbs & chammy/Ken dolls getting them popstar numbers...
GetoBoy;c-9908199 said:MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9908181 said:GetoBoy;c-9906773 said:This forum ain't nothing but a bunch of DJ Akademics niggaz care more about numbers then if the album hot or not..... Only bout 5 rappers doing 250k first week these days Meek not one of them but neither is 99% of other rappers why does that matter
Nobody expected meek to do 250K. However if he can't crack 100K after the momentum from DC4 that is a failure. Meeks last album sold very very well. I think it just went plat as well. But to do under 100K and get beat by tyler is an L. Now idk what the final numbers are but anything over 100K is a win for meek.
You can't brag about jays sales records in the 4:44 and then not consider sales as part of the equation of this album. Now the album is decent content wise. But how the public responds to it via sales and streams is another aspect.
Nigga FOH if he do 97k we calling it a fail over 3 extra K??? Give it a rest y'all put to much stock in it.... I gave props to Jay for having 13 #1 albums I wasn't caring about the exact number he sold shit ain't that big a deal in a era where ain't but 5 rappers that can sell big..... Anything in THIS climate 90k+ is a win for any rapper not named Jay, Drake, Kdot, Cole, or Ye and MAYBE Nicki
KamPushMe;c-9908241 said:gee757;c-9908215 said:Tyler rappin about kissing white boys paid off his numbers r no surprise he's appealing to the buying crowd.....this is a win for meek doing 86k the 1st wk those r great numbers for a blk street rapper.... I c squares wanna compare dc4 sells wit this but there is no Nikki on w&l like dc4 so meek doing 80k+ the 1st wk being a blk street rapper is great this album has legs too go at least gold....that plat look was a 1 time thing for meek when he was wit the Barbie & the barbs & chammy/Ken dolls getting them popstar numbers...
Great numbers? Loooool
Nigga did 200+k on his last project
