Meek Mill basically goes "But what about black on black crime" on instagram...

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Flagged. For the O/P's confusion.

This isn't a "what about Chicago?" in order to take the heat off of cops.

It's "It's a lot of kids dying out there in Chicago; more focus needs to be on that."

These are two very different things.
 
R.D.;c-9649472 said:
Trillfate;c-9648579 said:
stringer bell;c-9648409 said:
D. Morgan;c-9648406 said:
Black_Samson;c-9648405 said:
dude that allegedly shot her, already getting his ass beat in jail.

CO's just sitting and watching it happen too.

it's on the FB

Link?


Criminal integrity always trips me out..


Why

What's a criminal? Says who?


Some who kills, rapes, murders, steals etc
 
SolemnSauce;c-9648857 said:
i ro ny;c-9648481 said:
meek mill didnt "basically" say anything like the threadstarter made it seem.

he said exactly what he said.

Low key, I think it's pushed to make a black person talking about the violence in our cities at the hands of our own. A taboo thing to talk about. Like, people are in such a rush to disown anyone that speaks on the crime in our cities by the hands of our own race is an issue much larger than cops killing blacks

Moralisticly cops killing blacks is a much larger issue seeing as they are sworn to serve and protect and they bastardize their main purpose into a power trip.

But on some societal shit, crime in the inner city is a much greater issue. And has much longer standing consequences. Because it's such a strong thing, people do what people do. Attack the thing that's deemed less of a challenge. Or what is deeemed by most as the safe righteous fight.

You can think of the most loved celeberity like Beyoncé. As loved as she is and her fans ride for her heavy. If she Eva spoke on crime in Chicago in a way that it doesn't fully place blame on the government. Her career would be over, her own hive would disown her. Bet that

Given their platform, blk public figures have always been encouraged to speak on blk issues...even the violence in our communities

Many focus on systemic racism because police brutality and crime within black communities both derive from structural inequalities. Not because it's less a challenge or a less controversial stance--even for a celebrity

It's also extremely short sighted to argue crime is the greater societal issue or that it has far reaching consequences opposed to police brutality. And that's not to say crime isnt a big problem. But you are deflecting from the fact that a lot of the crime and violence we see is fueled by inequality, an ineffective justice system, and police misconduct

By that i mean, police misconduct, inequality and an ineffective justice system creates a toxic environment where ppl are less likely to report crime and work with the police; and more likely to take the law into their own hands and/or create their own laws/means to an end. Families are left broken

The formation of street gangs in the blk community, when local vigilantes organized and armed themselves to help keep their neighborhoods safe, for instance, was initially a response to police brutality and white racism. Obviously things spun out of control, especially when drugs were funneled into a lot of these neighborhoods

So what we see is not surprising. And the outcomes are replicated under similar conditions. See Mexico. See Brazil. See the middle East.

Look at native americans. Their young are literally killing themselves at an unprecedented rate

So yes rightfully Beyonce or any other blk celebrity would then face backlash if they spoke about the violence in our communities WITHOUT nuance and historical context....it's irresponsible to say the least

In Meeks case, he is doing his fans and our communities a huge disservice perpetuating the myth blk ppl, BLM don't care as much about crime within their communities as they do about addressing a discriminatory criminal justice system that targets them. Deflects attention from the real issues. How about advocate for funding/raise funding for anti violence community programs in Chicago like Cease Fire that has lost a lot of the governemnt funding they depended on????

 
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Trillfate;c-9648648 said:
D. Morgan;c-9648639 said:
Trillfate;c-9648579 said:
stringer bell;c-9648409 said:
D. Morgan;c-9648406 said:
Black_Samson;c-9648405 said:
dude that allegedly shot her, already getting his ass beat in jail.

CO's just sitting and watching it happen too.

it's on the FB

Link?


Criminal integrity always trips me out..


Why?


Because they feel theyre in for a worthwhile reason that doesn't include harming children and/or women, which is obviously bitchmade so its cool to see


You ever stop to think that not every person behind bars actually did the crime they were found guilty of?

Or maybe the law that they broke was a fucked up law that shouldn't exist?
 
EmM HoLLa.;c-9648425 said:
That just the appetizer.. Wait till he gets to the State Pen..

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desertrain10;c-9649760 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9648857 said:
i ro ny;c-9648481 said:
meek mill didnt "basically" say anything like the threadstarter made it seem.

he said exactly what he said.

Low key, I think it's pushed to make a black person talking about the violence in our cities at the hands of our own. A taboo thing to talk about. Like, people are in such a rush to disown anyone that speaks on the crime in our cities by the hands of our own race is an issue much larger than cops killing blacks

Moralisticly cops killing blacks is a much larger issue seeing as they are sworn to serve and protect and they bastardize their main purpose into a power trip.

But on some societal shit, crime in the inner city is a much greater issue. And has much longer standing consequences. Because it's such a strong thing, people do what people do. Attack the thing that's deemed less of a challenge. Or what is deeemed by most as the safe righteous fight.

You can think of the most loved celeberity like Beyoncé. As loved as she is and her fans ride for her heavy. If she Eva spoke on crime in Chicago in a way that it doesn't fully place blame on the government. Her career would be over, her own hive would disown her. Bet that

Given their platform, blk public figures have always been encouraged to speak on blk issues...even the violence in our communities

Many focus on systemic racism because police brutality and crime within black communities both derive from structural inequalities. Not because it's less a challenge or a less controversial stance--even for a celebrity

It's also extremely short sighted to argue crime is the greater societal issue or that it has far reaching consequences opposed to police brutality. And that's not to say crime isnt a big problem. But you are deflecting from the fact that a lot of the crime and violence we see is fueled by inequality, an ineffective justice system, and police misconduct

By that i mean, police misconduct, inequality and an ineffective justice system creates a toxic environment where ppl are less likely to report crime and work with the police; and more likely to take the law into their own hands and/or create their own laws/means to an end. Families are left broken

The formation of street gangs in the blk community, when local vigilantes organized and armed themselves to help keep their neighborhoods safe, for instance, was initially a response to police brutality and white racism. Obviously things spun out of control, especially when drugs were funneled into a lot of these neighborhoods

So what we see is not surprising. And the outcomes are replicated under similar conditions. See Mexico. See Brazil. See the middle East.

Look at native americans. Their young are literally killing themselves at an unprecedented rate

So yes rightfully Beyonce or any other blk celebrity would then face backlash if they spoke about the violence in our communities WITHOUT nuance and historical context....it's irresponsible to say the least

In Meeks case, he is doing his fans and our communities a huge disservice perpetuating the myth blk ppl, BLM don't care as much about crime within their communities as they do about addressing a discriminatory criminal justice system that targets them. Deflects attention from the real issues. How about advocate for funding/raise funding for anti violence community programs in Chicago like Cease Fire that has lost a lot of the governemnt funding they depended on????

Thats a real feminine way to look at it. I don't want you to fix anything, I just want you to listen. I ain't built like that.
 
Trillfate;c-9648579 said:
stringer bell;c-9648409 said:
D. Morgan;c-9648406 said:
Black_Samson;c-9648405 said:
dude that allegedly shot her, already getting his ass beat in jail.

CO's just sitting and watching it happen too.

it's on the FB

Link?


Criminal integrity always trips me out..


Even doe some nigga break street code alot of niggas still stick to the code and up hold it. When Alpo went to snitchin on Perry. U didn't see perry snitchin to in order to get his sentence reduced he held his own and took it like a man. That's why the motto is don't do the crime if u can't do the time.
 
JokerzWyld;c-9649630 said:
Since when did meek's opinion matter?

Yeah he just a rapper. Some people have a weird thing where they "expect" somebody to think and say exactly what they want. Very futile attitude. Instead of realizing thats their opinion. Its something I've understood more and more the older I get. Some seem to think they can "mold" them into what they want them to be. "He said what? He should say...(whatever they individually think)" Like its a immature thing to not realize everybody aint exactly like you. Takes experience and seeing and learning things to see its a big world with all kinda different opinions. Thats just how it goes. I have no contact with twitter or whatever and dont know or care what goes on there so there's that added layer but i dont find that offensive man people thats just his personal opinion it wasnt even that bad. I think its about perspective and proportion.

Cant this and other issues be addressed? Thats what i would think like ok he raises a point i may not completely agree but I can get something from that in my own way.

These type of threads are good because they illustrate certain ridiculousness. For instance Its like an illustration people will find pretty much anything to nitpick instead of focusing on their own lives and doing their thing. And some really do elevate these entertainers to unrealistic levels, etc.
 
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SolemnSauce;c-9652450 said:
desertrain10;c-9649760 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9648857 said:
i ro ny;c-9648481 said:
meek mill didnt "basically" say anything like the threadstarter made it seem.

he said exactly what he said.

Low key, I think it's pushed to make a black person talking about the violence in our cities at the hands of our own. A taboo thing to talk about. Like, people are in such a rush to disown anyone that speaks on the crime in our cities by the hands of our own race is an issue much larger than cops killing blacks

Moralisticly cops killing blacks is a much larger issue seeing as they are sworn to serve and protect and they bastardize their main purpose into a power trip.

But on some societal shit, crime in the inner city is a much greater issue. And has much longer standing consequences. Because it's such a strong thing, people do what people do. Attack the thing that's deemed less of a challenge. Or what is deeemed by most as the safe righteous fight.

You can think of the most loved celeberity like Beyoncé. As loved as she is and her fans ride for her heavy. If she Eva spoke on crime in Chicago in a way that it doesn't fully place blame on the government. Her career would be over, her own hive would disown her. Bet that

Given their platform, blk public figures have always been encouraged to speak on blk issues...even the violence in our communities

Many focus on systemic racism because police brutality and crime within black communities both derive from structural inequalities. Not because it's less a challenge or a less controversial stance--even for a celebrity

It's also extremely short sighted to argue crime is the greater societal issue or that it has far reaching consequences opposed to police brutality. And that's not to say crime isnt a big problem. But you are deflecting from the fact that a lot of the crime and violence we see is fueled by inequality, an ineffective justice system, and police misconduct

By that i mean, police misconduct, inequality and an ineffective justice system creates a toxic environment where ppl are less likely to report crime and work with the police; and more likely to take the law into their own hands and/or create their own laws/means to an end. Families are left broken

The formation of street gangs in the blk community, when local vigilantes organized and armed themselves to help keep their neighborhoods safe, for instance, was initially a response to police brutality and white racism. Obviously things spun out of control, especially when drugs were funneled into a lot of these neighborhoods

So what we see is not surprising. And the outcomes are replicated under similar conditions. See Mexico. See Brazil. See the middle East.

Look at native americans. Their young are literally killing themselves at an unprecedented rate

So yes rightfully Beyonce or any other blk celebrity would then face backlash if they spoke about the violence in our communities WITHOUT nuance and historical context....it's irresponsible to say the least

In Meeks case, he is doing his fans and our communities a huge disservice perpetuating the myth blk ppl, BLM don't care as much about crime within their communities as they do about addressing a discriminatory criminal justice system that targets them. Deflects attention from the real issues. How about advocate for funding/raise funding for anti violence community programs in Chicago like Cease Fire that has lost a lot of the governemnt funding they depended on????

Thats a real feminine way to look at it. I don't want you to fix anything, I just want you to listen. I ain't built like that.

lol

resorting to a genderized attack, because you couldn't think of a good rebuttal

typical

surprise me next time
 
desertrain10;c-9652863 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9652450 said:
desertrain10;c-9649760 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9648857 said:
i ro ny;c-9648481 said:
meek mill didnt "basically" say anything like the threadstarter made it seem.

he said exactly what he said.

Low key, I think it's pushed to make a black person talking about the violence in our cities at the hands of our own. A taboo thing to talk about. Like, people are in such a rush to disown anyone that speaks on the crime in our cities by the hands of our own race is an issue much larger than cops killing blacks

Moralisticly cops killing blacks is a much larger issue seeing as they are sworn to serve and protect and they bastardize their main purpose into a power trip.

But on some societal shit, crime in the inner city is a much greater issue. And has much longer standing consequences. Because it's such a strong thing, people do what people do. Attack the thing that's deemed less of a challenge. Or what is deeemed by most as the safe righteous fight.

You can think of the most loved celeberity like Beyoncé. As loved as she is and her fans ride for her heavy. If she Eva spoke on crime in Chicago in a way that it doesn't fully place blame on the government. Her career would be over, her own hive would disown her. Bet that

Given their platform, blk public figures have always been encouraged to speak on blk issues...even the violence in our communities

Many focus on systemic racism because police brutality and crime within black communities both derive from structural inequalities. Not because it's less a challenge or a less controversial stance--even for a celebrity

It's also extremely short sighted to argue crime is the greater societal issue or that it has far reaching consequences opposed to police brutality. And that's not to say crime isnt a big problem. But you are deflecting from the fact that a lot of the crime and violence we see is fueled by inequality, an ineffective justice system, and police misconduct

By that i mean, police misconduct, inequality and an ineffective justice system creates a toxic environment where ppl are less likely to report crime and work with the police; and more likely to take the law into their own hands and/or create their own laws/means to an end. Families are left broken

The formation of street gangs in the blk community, when local vigilantes organized and armed themselves to help keep their neighborhoods safe, for instance, was initially a response to police brutality and white racism. Obviously things spun out of control, especially when drugs were funneled into a lot of these neighborhoods

So what we see is not surprising. And the outcomes are replicated under similar conditions. See Mexico. See Brazil. See the middle East.

Look at native americans. Their young are literally killing themselves at an unprecedented rate

So yes rightfully Beyonce or any other blk celebrity would then face backlash if they spoke about the violence in our communities WITHOUT nuance and historical context....it's irresponsible to say the least

In Meeks case, he is doing his fans and our communities a huge disservice perpetuating the myth blk ppl, BLM don't care as much about crime within their communities as they do about addressing a discriminatory criminal justice system that targets them. Deflects attention from the real issues. How about advocate for funding/raise funding for anti violence community programs in Chicago like Cease Fire that has lost a lot of the governemnt funding they depended on????

Thats a real feminine way to look at it. I don't want you to fix anything, I just want you to listen. I ain't built like that.

lol

resorting to a genderized attack, because you couldn't think of a good rebuttal

typical

surprise me next time

xcql0vl9y7cy.jpg


 
SolemnSauce;c-9652871 said:
desertrain10;c-9652863 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9652450 said:
desertrain10;c-9649760 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9648857 said:
i ro ny;c-9648481 said:
meek mill didnt "basically" say anything like the threadstarter made it seem.

he said exactly what he said.

Low key, I think it's pushed to make a black person talking about the violence in our cities at the hands of our own. A taboo thing to talk about. Like, people are in such a rush to disown anyone that speaks on the crime in our cities by the hands of our own race is an issue much larger than cops killing blacks

Moralisticly cops killing blacks is a much larger issue seeing as they are sworn to serve and protect and they bastardize their main purpose into a power trip.

But on some societal shit, crime in the inner city is a much greater issue. And has much longer standing consequences. Because it's such a strong thing, people do what people do. Attack the thing that's deemed less of a challenge. Or what is deeemed by most as the safe righteous fight.

You can think of the most loved celeberity like Beyoncé. As loved as she is and her fans ride for her heavy. If she Eva spoke on crime in Chicago in a way that it doesn't fully place blame on the government. Her career would be over, her own hive would disown her. Bet that

Given their platform, blk public figures have always been encouraged to speak on blk issues...even the violence in our communities

Many focus on systemic racism because police brutality and crime within black communities both derive from structural inequalities. Not because it's less a challenge or a less controversial stance--even for a celebrity

It's also extremely short sighted to argue crime is the greater societal issue or that it has far reaching consequences opposed to police brutality. And that's not to say crime isnt a big problem. But you are deflecting from the fact that a lot of the crime and violence we see is fueled by inequality, an ineffective justice system, and police misconduct

By that i mean, police misconduct, inequality and an ineffective justice system creates a toxic environment where ppl are less likely to report crime and work with the police; and more likely to take the law into their own hands and/or create their own laws/means to an end. Families are left broken

The formation of street gangs in the blk community, when local vigilantes organized and armed themselves to help keep their neighborhoods safe, for instance, was initially a response to police brutality and white racism. Obviously things spun out of control, especially when drugs were funneled into a lot of these neighborhoods

So what we see is not surprising. And the outcomes are replicated under similar conditions. See Mexico. See Brazil. See the middle East.

Look at native americans. Their young are literally killing themselves at an unprecedented rate

So yes rightfully Beyonce or any other blk celebrity would then face backlash if they spoke about the violence in our communities WITHOUT nuance and historical context....it's irresponsible to say the least

In Meeks case, he is doing his fans and our communities a huge disservice perpetuating the myth blk ppl, BLM don't care as much about crime within their communities as they do about addressing a discriminatory criminal justice system that targets them. Deflects attention from the real issues. How about advocate for funding/raise funding for anti violence community programs in Chicago like Cease Fire that has lost a lot of the government funding they depended on????

Thats a real feminine way to look at it. I don't want you to fix anything, I just want you to listen. I ain't built like that.

lol

resorting to a genderized attack, because you couldn't think of a good rebuttal

typical

surprise me next time

xcql0vl9y7cy.jpg

Patrick >>>>

I said surprise me though :/

 
desertrain10;c-9652951 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9652871 said:
desertrain10;c-9652863 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9652450 said:
desertrain10;c-9649760 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9648857 said:
i ro ny;c-9648481 said:
meek mill didnt "basically" say anything like the threadstarter made it seem.

he said exactly what he said.

Low key, I think it's pushed to make a black person talking about the violence in our cities at the hands of our own. A taboo thing to talk about. Like, people are in such a rush to disown anyone that speaks on the crime in our cities by the hands of our own race is an issue much larger than cops killing blacks

Moralisticly cops killing blacks is a much larger issue seeing as they are sworn to serve and protect and they bastardize their main purpose into a power trip.

But on some societal shit, crime in the inner city is a much greater issue. And has much longer standing consequences. Because it's such a strong thing, people do what people do. Attack the thing that's deemed less of a challenge. Or what is deeemed by most as the safe righteous fight.

You can think of the most loved celeberity like Beyoncé. As loved as she is and her fans ride for her heavy. If she Eva spoke on crime in Chicago in a way that it doesn't fully place blame on the government. Her career would be over, her own hive would disown her. Bet that

Given their platform, blk public figures have always been encouraged to speak on blk issues...even the violence in our communities

Many focus on systemic racism because police brutality and crime within black communities both derive from structural inequalities. Not because it's less a challenge or a less controversial stance--even for a celebrity

It's also extremely short sighted to argue crime is the greater societal issue or that it has far reaching consequences opposed to police brutality. And that's not to say crime isnt a big problem. But you are deflecting from the fact that a lot of the crime and violence we see is fueled by inequality, an ineffective justice system, and police misconduct

By that i mean, police misconduct, inequality and an ineffective justice system creates a toxic environment where ppl are less likely to report crime and work with the police; and more likely to take the law into their own hands and/or create their own laws/means to an end. Families are left broken

The formation of street gangs in the blk community, when local vigilantes organized and armed themselves to help keep their neighborhoods safe, for instance, was initially a response to police brutality and white racism. Obviously things spun out of control, especially when drugs were funneled into a lot of these neighborhoods

So what we see is not surprising. And the outcomes are replicated under similar conditions. See Mexico. See Brazil. See the middle East.

Look at native americans. Their young are literally killing themselves at an unprecedented rate

So yes rightfully Beyonce or any other blk celebrity would then face backlash if they spoke about the violence in our communities WITHOUT nuance and historical context....it's irresponsible to say the least

In Meeks case, he is doing his fans and our communities a huge disservice perpetuating the myth blk ppl, BLM don't care as much about crime within their communities as they do about addressing a discriminatory criminal justice system that targets them. Deflects attention from the real issues. How about advocate for funding/raise funding for anti violence community programs in Chicago like Cease Fire that has lost a lot of the government funding they depended on????

Thats a real feminine way to look at it. I don't want you to fix anything, I just want you to listen. I ain't built like that.

lol

resorting to a genderized attack, because you couldn't think of a good rebuttal

typical

surprise me next time

xcql0vl9y7cy.jpg

Patrick >>>>

I said surprise me though :/

U want a surprise?

U were totally right in both posts, and I have no counter argument, I bow to ur intelligence
 

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