Master P To Colin Kaepernick: Let's Start Our Own League

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yall want blacks to fail so bad. its sad that we are all the nfl and nba got but we have to compete against a watered down product if all the stars leave. oooookkkkkk.
 
ineedpussy;c-10057296 said:
yall want blacks to fail so bad. its sad that we are all the nfl and nba got but we have to compete against a watered down product if all the stars leave. oooookkkkkk.

Ok so all the stars leave...then what next? Who is funding these teams? Who is paying salaries of the entire staffs on these new teams? Who is paying insurance? Who is securing and paying for places to play? It's not about wanting black folks to fail it's more about seeing that people often just throw out grand ideas w/o actually putting the thought into how to make the shit work. It's no different than when niggas say "Everybody should just start their own business" while leaving out all the actual work that running your own business entails.
 
I like the fact that Master P at least willing to put the idea out there.. It is crazy that we make other people all this money and we don't own shit... As far as starting a league, you need to also consider what resources are already out there that can be leveraged. Them NFL owners don't typically spend much of their own bread. They pay somebody to cut proposals to gain investment, sponsors and tax revenue from the city they'll operate in. This idea ain't as far fetched as some people making it sound.
 
blackrain;c-10057347 said:
ineedpussy;c-10057296 said:
yall want blacks to fail so bad. its sad that we are all the nfl and nba got but we have to compete against a watered down product if all the stars leave. oooookkkkkk.

Ok so all the stars leave...then what next? Who is funding these teams? Who is paying salaries of the entire staffs on these new teams? Who is paying insurance? Who is securing and paying for places to play? It's not about wanting black folks to fail it's more about seeing that people often just throw out grand ideas w/o actually putting the thought into how to make the shit work. It's no different than when niggas say "Everybody should just start their own business" while leaving out all the actual work that running your own business entails.

like i said in an earlier post these players will have to take a hell of a paycut for the future. they'll get hundreds of thousands but not millions and have to play in high school stadiums til we build gain enough bread to build stadiums. hell if you tell all the blacks to donate x amount of dollars and youll have a stake it will make the people feel like theyre apart of something. shit wont be sweet but thats the cost of being a boss. should of never went with integration and got rid of the negro league. its coming to bite us in the ass.

but lets be for real. you dont want the nfl to go anywhere. you would be the one who would tell on slaves trying to get free from the master. hollering bout, " he feeds us, clothes us, and beats us only six days out the week and lets us pray to white jesus on sundays." i aint the only one that peeps your game. youre white bruh. or an uncle tom/sell out. you always see the glass half empty. we dont like your type. sell out nigga. now flag me and say some other shit....bitch
 
They would have to start drafting niggas out of high school since college players don't get paid and have to stay 3 years any money for them would be an upgrade. He would have to compete with college instead of the NFL but he would still need stadiums to play at
 
Or since black colleges don't make much off the football program get them to drop out of the ncaa and start paying niggas to play there. Each owner could use a different black college for their team to play at and kick the school some of the profits since they are underfunded anyway. Those schools already have stadiums training staff ECT.
 
The fact that he's tryin to attach himself wit the Kap's situation...in hopes it would bring all that attention...is what I have an issue with.

I have no problem wit him wanting to start a league. But it comes off as opportunistic trying to bring Kap in. C'mon now yall acting like P aint never tried to take advantage of an opportunity...and not really working out.

- No Limit Sports Agency...s/o to Ricky Williams

- No Limit Wrestling

- No Limit Snacks

- Better Black TV Network

- No Limit Films

Hell when that whole boy band pop shyt was in...his azzz signed a boy band.

Never had an issue wit his hussle, but like Sion said, P doesn't follow thru wit that shyt. Just trying to take advantage of the moment...then move on to the next.
 
Again it needs to be said: the owners aren't billionaires because they own teams, they own teams because they're billionaires.

Nobody worth a damn is going to play in this league. It'll be a bunch of washouts and never-rans just like the XFL was.

Want to start a league? Nothing stopping you, go for it but the shit ain't like opening a lemonade stand on the corner. That shit is intricate work.

NBC OWNED a football league and it tanked within one season. None of these niggas got NBC money, the shit is beyond an uphill battle.
 
ineedpussy;c-10057459 said:
blackrain;c-10057347 said:
ineedpussy;c-10057296 said:
yall want blacks to fail so bad. its sad that we are all the nfl and nba got but we have to compete against a watered down product if all the stars leave. oooookkkkkk.

Ok so all the stars leave...then what next? Who is funding these teams? Who is paying salaries of the entire staffs on these new teams? Who is paying insurance? Who is securing and paying for places to play? It's not about wanting black folks to fail it's more about seeing that people often just throw out grand ideas w/o actually putting the thought into how to make the shit work. It's no different than when niggas say "Everybody should just start their own business" while leaving out all the actual work that running your own business entails.

like i said in an earlier post these players will have to take a hell of a paycut for the future. they'll get hundreds of thousands but not millions and have to play in high school stadiums til we build gain enough bread to build stadiums. hell if you tell all the blacks to donate x amount of dollars and youll have a stake it will make the people feel like theyre apart of something. shit wont be sweet but thats the cost of being a boss. should of never went with integration and got rid of the negro league. its coming to bite us in the ass.

but lets be for real. you dont want the nfl to go anywhere. you would be the one who would tell on slaves trying to get free from the master. hollering bout, " he feeds us, clothes us, and beats us only six days out the week and lets us pray to white jesus on sundays." i aint the only one that peeps your game. youre white bruh. or an uncle tom/sell out. you always see the glass half empty. we dont like your type. sell out nigga. now flag me and say some other shit....bitch

Nigga shut your dumb ass up. I could give a fuck about the NFL. I go fine on Sundays without it. I ain't say niggas can't start their own league. I'm saying its nowhere as simple as people making it. You think people playing in HS stadiums is gonna generate hundreds of thousands to pay 50+ athletes, full coaching staffs, medical personell etc that it takes to run one football team let alone an entire league? Talking about gain enough bread to build a stadium when you got teams already profitable that can't get approval for new stadiums/arenas and move cities because of it. Don't be salty with me because you can't actially flesh out an idea or plan and instead want to just throw out any ol bullshit.
 
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It's a very ambitious idea

Having your own league, sounds beautiful when spoken out loud

But, when it comes to business, you have to be honest with yourself

Ideas mean absolutely nothing, Exceution is worshiped

Look at the NFL itself

A multi-billion dollar league, which has the average NFL franchise valued at $2.3 billion

with 32 teams, thats a combined value of $74.8 billion

If you combine all the rappers net worth (Master P, Jay-Z, Puffy, Dr.Dre, 50 Cent, etc.)

Combine all that together, what you got maybe 4.5-5.0 billion?

You need way more investors

You include Oprah, Robert F. Smith, Michael Jordan, Aliko Dagnote (richest black man in the world, net worth of 12.2 billi),

You STILL need some outside investors, financial aid to have the necessary finance in building these teams

However, you want to look at it, you would have to include other races into the business

Mexicans, Indians, Asian, African

Pretty much a league that is ran by minorities in harmony against the white man lol, though white ppl can still play

BUT, even if you get all these people from all walks of life on board, you gotta work with EGOs, preferences, and respect in what they want to see

NFL is a HUGE business and to even compete with that you have to adopt a similar foundation

So, you get the players

You have to pay the players wages and health benefits

You have to pay the coaches, personnel, staff, cheerleaders of each team

Then you have to find an arena in each respective city to host the games

Since you have the NFL contracted with most major cities sports arena

You have to find some sports stadium that is not occupied around that time, pay the owner of that stadium to use the arena on designated days

Then you have to broadcast these games

What network you want to use? BET?

Well since Viacom is the parent company of BET, you know who going to get a cut of the revenue, white people

NFL has multiple ways to distribute their product

ESPN, FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS

You would have to do business with them regardless, if you want to increase the viewing audience

And I haven't even talked about the marketing strategy or the commission of the league that assists in regulating the games

It's a complicated, intricate, complex set up, that requires a thorough business plan to execute

Not Impossible At All

But Is Not Easy To Put Into Action
 
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I know this is gonna sound stupid but with the way the world is now aren't their less barriers to entry for something like this?

What if someone put money behind existing "semi-pro" leaugues across the country and coordinated cross league play

And maybe create some new team's as well, and have them play in college stadiums or some of them giant high school stadiums

Have the season in the spring as to not directly compete against the NFL

Then instead of trying secure broadcasting rights with a major network go for a streaming deal with Amazon/Netflix etc.

That way you are improving on an existing product instead of starting from the ground up and not having to compete with the corporate old guard that doesn't let shit like this happen giving the league a chance to generate revenue and grow

Anyone have thoughts on this? I dunno if I'm being ridiculous or if it's feasible

 
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kid_khameleon;c-10058054 said:
I know this is gonna sound stupid but with the way the world is now aren't their less barriers to entry for something like this?

What if someone put money behind existing "semi-pro" leaugues across the country and coordinated cross league play

And maybe create some new team's as well, and have them play in college stadiums or some of them giant high school stadiums

Have the season in the spring as to not directly compete against the NFL

Then instead of trying secure broadcasting rights with a major network go for a streaming deal with Amazon/Netflix etc.

That way you are improving on an existing product instead of starting from the ground up and not having to compete with the corporate old guard that doesn't let shit like this happen giving the league a chance to generate revenue and grow

Anyone have thoughts on this? I dunno if I'm being ridiculous or if it's feasible

all the ideas here are good ideas...but whos willing to put the work behind it?

this shit has to be babied from start to finish.
 
American Football is on its way out the door, anyways. With CTE and the violent nature of the sport starting to scare some parents off, I don't know if it would be a smart investment or move to start a league. I don't even see the NFL being around in 30/40 years
 
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brown321;c-10057207 said:
The Superdome isn’t going to be filled up by fans of the the New Orleans UHHH & Atlanta Shawty’s.

This nigga said the nawlings uhhhh and atl shawty.... I'm literally crying laughing son
 
BigBallsNoWorries;c-10057877 said:
It's a very ambitious idea

Having your own league, sounds beautiful when spoken out loud

But, when it comes to business, you have to be honest with yourself

Ideas mean absolutely nothing, Exceution is worshiped

Look at the NFL itself

A multi-billion dollar league, which has the average NFL franchise valued at $2.3 billion

with 32 teams, thats a combined value of $74.8 billion

If you combine all the rappers net worth (Master P, Jay-Z, Puffy, Dr.Dre, 50 Cent, etc.)

Combine all that together, what you got maybe 4.5-5.0 billion?

You need way more investors

You include Oprah, Robert F. Smith, Michael Jordan, Aliko Dagnote (richest black man in the world, net worth of 12.2 billi),

You STILL need some outside investors, financial aid to have the necessary finance in building these teams

However, you want to look at it, you would have to include other races into the business

Mexicans, Indians, Asian, African

Pretty much a league that is ran by minorities in harmony against the white man lol, though white ppl can still play

BUT, even if you get all these people from all walks of life on board, you gotta work with EGOs, preferences, and respect in what they want to see

NFL is a HUGE business and to even compete with that you have to adopt a similar foundation

So, you get the players

You have to pay the players wages and health benefits

You have to pay the coaches, personnel, staff, cheerleaders of each team

Then you have to find an arena in each respective city to host the games

Since you have the NFL contracted with most major cities sports arena

You have to find some sports stadium that is not occupied around that time, pay the owner of that stadium to use the arena on designated days

Then you have to broadcast these games

What network you want to use? BET?

Well since Viacom is the parent company of BET, you know who going to get a cut of the revenue, white people

NFL has multiple ways to distribute their product

ESPN, FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS

You would have to do business with them regardless, if you want to increase the viewing audience

And I haven't even talked about the marketing strategy or the commission of the league that assists in regulating the games

It's a complicated, intricate, complex set up, that requires a thorough business plan to execute

Not Impossible At All

But Is Not Easy To Put Into Action

Facts
 
blackrain;c-10057636 said:
ineedpussy;c-10057459 said:
blackrain;c-10057347 said:
ineedpussy;c-10057296 said:
yall want blacks to fail so bad. its sad that we are all the nfl and nba got but we have to compete against a watered down product if all the stars leave. oooookkkkkk.

Ok so all the stars leave...then what next? Who is funding these teams? Who is paying salaries of the entire staffs on these new teams? Who is paying insurance? Who is securing and paying for places to play? It's not about wanting black folks to fail it's more about seeing that people often just throw out grand ideas w/o actually putting the thought into how to make the shit work. It's no different than when niggas say "Everybody should just start their own business" while leaving out all the actual work that running your own business entails.

like i said in an earlier post these players will have to take a hell of a paycut for the future. they'll get hundreds of thousands but not millions and have to play in high school stadiums til we build gain enough bread to build stadiums. hell if you tell all the blacks to donate x amount of dollars and youll have a stake it will make the people feel like theyre apart of something. shit wont be sweet but thats the cost of being a boss. should of never went with integration and got rid of the negro league. its coming to bite us in the ass.

but lets be for real. you dont want the nfl to go anywhere. you would be the one who would tell on slaves trying to get free from the master. hollering bout, " he feeds us, clothes us, and beats us only six days out the week and lets us pray to white jesus on sundays." i aint the only one that peeps your game. youre white bruh. or an uncle tom/sell out. you always see the glass half empty. we dont like your type. sell out nigga. now flag me and say some other shit....bitch

Nigga shut your dumb ass up. I could give a fuck about the NFL. I go fine on Sundays without it. I ain't say niggas can't start their own league. I'm saying its nowhere as simple as people making it. You think people playing in HS stadiums is gonna generate hundreds of thousands to pay 50+ athletes, full coaching staffs, medical personell etc that it takes to run one football team let alone an entire league? Talking about gain enough bread to build a stadium when you got teams already profitable that can't get approval for new stadiums/arenas and move cities because of it. Don't be salty with me because you can't actially flesh out an idea or plan and instead want to just throw out any ol bullshit.

who are going to watch white boys play? and like i said niggaZ will have to take a pay cut. if we as a people use crackaganda to get our people to pick our league instead of the nfl we will be gucci. you act like niggaZ aint thought this out. you could say the same thing for the negro league then. hence you dont want to see slaves leave the plantation.
 
ineedpussy;c-10059146 said:
blackrain;c-10057636 said:
ineedpussy;c-10057459 said:
blackrain;c-10057347 said:
ineedpussy;c-10057296 said:
yall want blacks to fail so bad. its sad that we are all the nfl and nba got but we have to compete against a watered down product if all the stars leave. oooookkkkkk.

Ok so all the stars leave...then what next? Who is funding these teams? Who is paying salaries of the entire staffs on these new teams? Who is paying insurance? Who is securing and paying for places to play? It's not about wanting black folks to fail it's more about seeing that people often just throw out grand ideas w/o actually putting the thought into how to make the shit work. It's no different than when niggas say "Everybody should just start their own business" while leaving out all the actual work that running your own business entails.

like i said in an earlier post these players will have to take a hell of a paycut for the future. they'll get hundreds of thousands but not millions and have to play in high school stadiums til we build gain enough bread to build stadiums. hell if you tell all the blacks to donate x amount of dollars and youll have a stake it will make the people feel like theyre apart of something. shit wont be sweet but thats the cost of being a boss. should of never went with integration and got rid of the negro league. its coming to bite us in the ass.

but lets be for real. you dont want the nfl to go anywhere. you would be the one who would tell on slaves trying to get free from the master. hollering bout, " he feeds us, clothes us, and beats us only six days out the week and lets us pray to white jesus on sundays." i aint the only one that peeps your game. youre white bruh. or an uncle tom/sell out. you always see the glass half empty. we dont like your type. sell out nigga. now flag me and say some other shit....bitch

Nigga shut your dumb ass up. I could give a fuck about the NFL. I go fine on Sundays without it. I ain't say niggas can't start their own league. I'm saying its nowhere as simple as people making it. You think people playing in HS stadiums is gonna generate hundreds of thousands to pay 50+ athletes, full coaching staffs, medical personell etc that it takes to run one football team let alone an entire league? Talking about gain enough bread to build a stadium when you got teams already profitable that can't get approval for new stadiums/arenas and move cities because of it. Don't be salty with me because you can't actially flesh out an idea or plan and instead want to just throw out any ol bullshit.

who are going to watch white boys play? and like i said niggaZ will have to take a pay cut. if we as a people use crackaganda to get our people to pick our league instead of the nfl we will be gucci. you act like niggaZ aint thought this out. you could say the same thing for the negro league then. hence you dont want to see slaves leave the plantation.

Your plan ain't thought out. Its a damn pipe dream. "tell all black folks to donate money to the league"...you really think that shit is a viable option? Most folks barely got a damn savings account let alone money to donate to a start up professional league to help make other people rich. You ain't think this out you just repeating a talking point that sounds nice with no actual idea of how to make it function.
 
ghostdog56;c-10057509 said:
Or since black colleges don't make much off the football program get them to drop out of the ncaa and start paying niggas to play there. Each owner could use a different black college for their team to play at and kick the school some of the profits since they are underfunded anyway. Those schools already have stadiums training staff ECT.

 

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