Martian manhunter vs The Vision

[The Lonious Monk]

Yeah, that just goes to show how crazy Surfer's power set is. You're kinda inflating MM's powerset though. Well not really, but some of what you're saying is redundant. MM doesn't have general matter manipulation as far as I know, what he does have is massive manipulation of his own matter. Intangibility and shape shifting are just aspects of that power.

That's not to take away from him though. As you pointed out he's a big time psionic with energy blasts, and also has super strength and flight abilities. Still dwarfed by Surfer whose versatility is only beaten by reality warpers, high level cosmics, and top tier magic users.

 

[evoljeanyes]

Yeah, that just goes to show how crazy Surfer's power set is. You're kinda inflating MM's powerset though. Well not really, but some of what you're saying is redundant. MM doesn't have general matter manipulation as far as I know, what he does have is massive manipulation of his own matter. Intangibility and shape shifting are just aspects of that power.

That's not to take away from him though. As you pointed out he's a big time psionic with energy blasts, and also has super strength and flight abilities. Still dwarfed by Surfer whose versatility is only beaten by reality warpers, high level cosmics, and top tier magic users.

Man...manhunter can can manipulate anything with his psionic powerset. He also has matter manipulation to atomic levels. He regenerates himself and other's! And he casts illusions which is crazy power.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Oh ok, I'll take your word for it. I've never seen him use his telekinesis to do anything comparable to what true matter manipulators like Surfer do. And casting illusions is just an extension of his psionic powers. Any telepath can do that.

 

[evoljeanyes]

Oh ok, I'll take your word for it. I've never seen him use his telekinesis to do anything comparable to what true matter manipulators like Surfer do. And casting illusions is just an extension of his psionic powers. Any telepath can do that.

I didn't think about the illusion casting that way, you're right. Plus when we're talking consistency these are still reaches because he doesn't user matter manipulation often I really can only think of one instance. He and two other league members got blasted to smithereens. He was literally just an arm and hecregenerates himself ivthijk guy and someone else. Either way his powerset isn't quite surfer level bit its still extremely versatile.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Well him regenerating himself would just be a result of having complete control of his own matter. However, if he did recreate someone too, then that is one of the highest telekinetic feats I've ever heard of in comics.

Either way, you're right, he's very versatile. It's been stated more than once that he's one of the most powerful people in the entire Justice League. Someone even Superman is wary of.

 

[jaxn]

its funny because during the Burning Martian arc, you got to see MM's abilites on full display. He was a BEAST. DC harldy ever showcases MM as formidable as he can be. They come into the problem of always having Superman to be the numero uno person, so others will never get the shine..

 

[evoljeanyes]

Surfer Spawn Thor and Manhunter have the most powers of top tiers.

DC is starting to use Manhunter right. If he doesn't show up in the movies fuck DC. Jonn has manhandled the league by his solo!

Good discussion guys! I didn't realizetgevlonious monk hadcmad knowledge. Jackson is always a that dude here. Glad he's back

 

[The Lonious Monk]

MM is one of the few people in DC I like.