Mark of the Beast - What does it mean?

[BiblicalAtheist]

So why the hell is Revelation so hard to decipher? Why tell us about dragons, mouths of beasts, sounds of locusts etc? Why not be straight forward with it instead?

There is a book called 'The Apocalypse Unsealed' by James Pryse who breaks down this book of the bible, if you're interested it's worth checking out:



The purpose of this book is to show that the Apocalypse is a manual of spiritual development and not, as conventionally interpreted, a cryptic history or prophecy. In the following pages the reader will find the complete solution of the Apocalyptic enigma, with ample proof of the correctness of that solution. As the subject dealt with in the work is, however, familiar to only a comparatively few special students of the sacred science, which to the many has ever been a sealed book, the exposition here given is put in the form of an elementary treatise.

For several centuries it was attempted to give the Apocalypse an historical interpretation; and failing this, through the lack of any record of past events that would serve the purpose, it was next interpreted as history of the future, that is, prophecy. At the present time, the Apocalypse is the despair of theology; the ablest scholars in the ranks of orthodoxy frankly admit that it must be regarded as an unsolved, and possibly insoluble, enigma. They translate its title "Revelation" yet it reveals nothing to them.

Moreover, although the Apocalypse treats very fully of the spiritual and psychic forces in man, it nowhere gives even a clue to the process by which these forces can be aroused to action; in fact, in the introductory part John clearly intimates that it is intended for the guidance of those who, without any esoteric instruction, find these forces awakened within them by the very purity of their" nature and the intensity of their aspiration for the spiritual life.

Evidently, then, he had another motive for resorting to the symbology and the ingenious puzzles which have baffled the profane for so many centuries ; and this motive is easily perceived. If he had written the book in clear language, it would almost undoubtedly have been destroyed; and it certainly would never have found a place in the Christian canon.

Now, in plain words, what does this very occult book, the Apocalypse, contain? It gives the esoteric interpretation of the Christos-myth ; it tells what "lesous the Christos" really is; it explains the nature of "the old serpent, who is the Devil and Satan"; it repudiates the profane conception of an anthropomorphic God; and with sublime imagery it points out the true and only path to Life Eternal.

Free for pdf download here:

http://knowledgefiles.com/categories/symbolism/the-apocalypse-unsealed/

 

[Skeratch]

actually, that's the one part i consider to be literally accurate

lol

There is a book called 'The Apocalypse Unsealed' by James Pryse who breaks down this book of the bible, if you're interested it's worth checking out:

It's on Google Books too. Interesting perspective, very gnostic.

 

[Israelites]

So why the hell is Revelation so hard to decipher? Why tell us about dragons, mouths of beasts, sounds of locusts etc? Why not be straight forward with it instead?

bro its' not hard to decipher at all, once you get full understanding of both Ot & Nt, you will know who the dragon represents, who the beasts represents what the locusts represents... we have to understand John was shown a vision of future events dealing w/the nations & the weaponry we have today not back in his time...

Most ppl don't follow the laws of the Most High, therefore they can't understand the prophecys of the book... the laws are the milk (so if you not following them or making excuses to do away with them) you will have no insight on what the plan of the Most High is thru HIS prophecy which is the meat of the book.... & listening to others opinions on the matter won't help at all either... the scriptures speak for themselves, out of the mouth of two or more witnesses let every word be established... search the scriptures...

Hebrews 5:11-15 (King James Version)

11Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

12For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

 

[Chike]

It's a bar code in the form of a computer chip. When this one world government kicks off, they're going to change their little constitution paper and obliterate everyone's right to buy, sell or live without a computer chip in their body. Get rid of money in paper form, and everyone's right to free speech..... and guess what? They're going to convince more than half the world to agree to this nonsense like it's a good idea... and like sheep.... they will sign in blood on the dotted line.

I'm wearing my tinfoil hat, so try a new gimmick.

 

[VIBE]

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So really, how do we know it's going to be that? Why doesn't anyone think it's just going to be literally 666 as a club stamp on our hand? (that glows under black lights!)

I've always wondered that. There's so many assumptions based on these visions. There is no definite answer or explanation. To each his own really, and I've been to around 4 different churches, not many and all of them have slightly different interpretations. Why is it he's right or she's right, if it's the bible and the TRUE word of God, shouldn't we all be right and have the same interpretations?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

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So really, how do we know it's going to be that? Why doesn't anyone think it's just going to be literally 666 as a club stamp on our hand? (that glows under black lights!)

I've always wondered that. There's so many assumptions based on these visions. There is no definite answer or explanation. To each his own really, and I've been to around 4 different churches, not many and all of them have slightly different interpretations. Why is it he's right or she's right, if it's the bible and the TRUE word of God, shouldn't we all be right and have the same interpretations?

Obviously Christians can never agree on something...
NWO truthers will claim it's definitely about them....
Atheists will go with history....

And lastly it was a dream, with a bunch of allegorical happenings, so of course you won't get a solid answer. Even if somebody found a tablet by Paul saying that it was a prophecy toward the Roman Empire people would deny it.

 

[VIBE]

Obviously Christians can never agree on something...
NWO truthers will claim it's definitely about them....
Atheists will go with history....

And lastly it was a dream, with a bunch of allegorical happenings, so of course you won't get a solid answer. Even if somebody found a tablet by Paul saying that it was a prophecy toward the Roman Empire people would deny it.

Well, I do think there is some type of NWO. It's in the process of being put in effect. It was spoken of in elections and by past presidents. Biblical though? I don't think so. I think that there were past "NWO's" in different periods of time. I think all of history has their own experience of this which is how the bible could speak of it and seem to be "foretelling the future".

Anyways, it really was a dream. Do you think this dream was literally how it is said? Or do you think he actually seen the "future" through some type of divine nature and couldn't explain things? Shit like, helicopters = locusts type thing?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Well, I do think there is some type of NWO. It's in the process of being put in effect. It was spoken of in elections and by past presidents. Biblical though? I don't think so. I think that there were past "NWO's" in different periods of time. I think all of history has their own experience of this which is how the bible could speak of it and seem to be "foretelling the future".

Anyways, it really was a dream. Do you think this dream was literally how it is said? Or do you think he actually seen the "future" through some type of divine nature and couldn't explain things? Shit like, helicopters = locusts type thing?

I believe his "dream" was not a literal dream. But more of a Martin Luther King Jr "dream". His vision of what the future holds for his people. He foreseen the fall of the Roman Empire (knowing that every great nation falls at some point), and put it into a way that would reach his people and stay out of the Romans view.

I don't doubt a NWO is real, but I don't believe in marks of beasts, evil devil worshiping people hell bent on enslaving everyone, computer chip implants, etc... We are constantly going through New World Orders. The next IMO will be a one world currency and such set up through NATO, I don't think it will be bad though. I think it would help the world to have one government, after all alot of problems now are differing views amongst governing systems. Which is either, leave everyone to their own, or form one system for all. Leaving everyone to their own will still lead to wars, one world not so much.

 

[VIBE]

I've heard of this, maybe you personally haven't, but it's about the computer micro chip thing. I heard the military uses it and so do some select soldiers, something like that. But I do know for sure a family does have it. Not required to buy, sell etc. But to I guess keep track of someone went missing or something. Also some guy spent a buttload of money and had a chip implanted and uses it to unlock his doors, car, start it etc (keyless basically, the chip swipe does it all)

So to say that the microchip won't be plausible or used is not something I would say. I would say it could end up being in some use, I mean if you think about it, this chip could be your everything. Your I.D., bank card, SS#, keys etc. Seeing as the future is about being lazy as fuck and making everything easier, this could be a possibility.

As for it being a "required thing or you die", I don't think so.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

I've heard of this, maybe you personally haven't, but it's about the computer micro chip thing. I heard the military uses it and so do some select soldiers, something like that. But I do know for sure a family does have it. Not required to buy, sell etc. But to I guess keep track of someone went missing or something. Also some guy spent a buttload of money and had a chip implanted and uses it to unlock his doors, car, start it etc (keyless basically, the chip swipe does it all)

So to say that the microchip won't be plausible or used is not something I would say. I would say it could end up being in some use, I mean if you think about it, this chip could be your everything. Your I.D., bank card, SS#, keys etc. Seeing as the future is about being lazy as fuck and making everything easier, this could be a possibility.

As for it being a "required thing or you die", I don't think so.

Of course it's used. But I don't see any indication of it being forced onto people.

I believe in the military it's used to track equipment right now and it's being experimented on soldiers so in the future they can track those that go behind enemy lines and for POW purposes
The guy your talking about it isn't an actual computerized chip. It's more like a security card or garage door opener. It isn't programmed into any internet that can be hacked and it's only transmittable with the computer system installed in his vehicles and house.

Plus say that for some reason a group came and wanted you to have a computer chip even though they already know everything about you and are supposedly watching and listening everything you do, how hard would it be to cut the shit out or fill a needle with water and short circuit it?

 

[VIBE]

Of course it's used. But I don't see any indication of it being forced onto people.

I believe in the military it's used to track equipment right now and it's being experimented on soldiers so in the future they can track those that go behind enemy lines and for POW purposes
The guy your talking about it isn't an actual computerized chip. It's more like a security card or garage door opener. It isn't programmed into any internet that can be hacked and it's only transmittable with the computer system installed in his vehicles and house.

Plus say that for some reason a group came and wanted you to have a computer chip even though they already know everything about you and are supposedly watching and listening everything you do, how hard would it be to cut the shit out or fill a needle with water and short circuit it?

I wouldn't underestimate your sentence. I'm sure there would be a way to prevent the removal or destruction of a inserted chip.

 

[TX_Made713]

So I've returned to see if anything has changed about this place. looks like its the same shit same toilet.

 

[VIBE]

So I've returned to see if anything has changed about this place. looks like its the same shit same toilet.

What can change about it? Nothing really.

 

[TX_Made713]

What can change about it? Nothing really.

Its not you. all the threads are exactly the same...bunch of bickering over another mans belief system. Dudes here get they panties up in a bunch just because someone disagrees with ther irrational facts