Lyricism. Delivery. Subject Matter. Flow.

[ct212]

This might be a stupid question but what is the difference between flow and delivery?

 

[L.P. Royal Flush]

Eminem

Lyricism: 10

Delivery: 10

Subject Matter: 9

Flow: 10

Lupe Fiasco

Lyricism: 10

Delivery: 10

Subject Matter: 9

Flow: 10

Nas

Lyricism: 10

Delivery: 10

Subject Matter: 9

Flow: 10

Andre 3000

Lyricism: 10

Delivery: 10

Subject Matter: 9

Flow: 10

Tupac

Lyricism: 10

Delivery: 10

Subject Matter: 9

Flow: 10

 

[red.emption]

Jay-Z

Lyricism: 8
Delivery: 10
Subject Matter: 6
Flow: 10

Total : 34

To me Jay's the # 1, but be honest guys, dude barely has a specific topic in his songs. He just adds a bunch of 2 to 8 coherent bars he keeps adding until a verse is finished. What makes him so great as an MC is his delivery, the way he makes simple shit sound brilliant. Therefore his (off the head) writing has to be an 8, sometimes to simple for a 9 or 10. His flow is always on point and he keeps switching it up every 2 or 4 bars, no question to me he deserves a 10 on that one.

 

[freeshine]

They call me Jay Electronica

Fuck that.

Call me Jay ElecHannukah

Jay ElecYarmulke

Jay ElecRamadaan Muhammad Asalaamica RasoulAllah Supana Watallah through your monitor.

Lyricism - 10

See above fools.

Delivery- 8

Jay elec bothers me when hes in interviews, he stutters more then elmer fudd multiplied by jimmy from southpark. but sometimes i feel like his voice is overbearing on what hes saying, really stays monotone for the most part

Subject matter - 10

Have you heard his verse in paul wall's "Live It"!?. not to mention his guest appearances with the most conscious fellows in the rap game. I always felt like "just begun" (by talib, jay elec, jcole and the mighty mos def) was the "swagger like us" of music thats actually worth listening to.

Flow-8

i havent really seen his "flow" and i mean flow as in voice inflection matching beat highs and lows and speed.

And the statistic no one has yet to mention on the thread (to the best of my knowledge)

Longevity- 4

Let's be real, guys a newcomer, he's gotta prove himself (debut album), we can all name 4-5 rappers that really brought it when they first bust on to the rap scene then lost it all because of "insert reason related to money"

sooo lets see here

lyricism - 10

delivery-8

subject matter-10

flow-8

longevity-4

40/50

80%

Not bad J-man not bad at all. i see him being the guy that gets as much props as nas does 20 years down the road, if only he put some more shit out! lol

 

[J. Rob]

This might be a stupid question but what is the difference between flow and delivery?

Flow is how you ride the beat.....delivery is the way you say it.

Tupac's flow was really nothing special, but he probably had the best delivery of all time.

 

[Pro-Fit]

Ok im do newer Hip Hop artist

Pac Div-

Lyricism 7

Delivery 5

Subject Matter9

Flow 5

(thier a group so flow and delivery is hard to scale)

Starlito-

Lyricism 6

Delivery 8

Subject Matter 9

Flow 8

(Listen to his alphabet soup & Life Story both old then listen to newer material Like Terminader Gold 60)

Big K.R.I.T

Lyricism 8

Delivery 6

Subject Matter 10

Flow 6

(Krit wuz here is lastest work and the standout sound in my opinion is "Chilren of the world")

Big Sean

Lyricism 8

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 6

Flow 7

(Finally Famous Mixtapes are good listens)

Cyhi Da Prince

Lyricism 5

Delivery 4

Subject Matter 5

Flow 4

(Royal flush mixtape overhype)

Currensy

Lyricism 5

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 3

Flow 7

(All song the same to me anyway but he got a fanbase)

YelaWolf

Lyricism 6

Delivery 8

Subject Matter 6

Flow 7

(Trunk Musik was a pretty good mixtape)

Drake

Lyricism 8

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 5

Flow 7

(One of my favorites really hasn't live up to potential yet )

Fabolous

Lyricism 9

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 6

Flow 7

(I have never been disappoint by dude lyrics No songs are deep though)

J. Furturistic

Lyricism 4

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 5

Flow 7

(Party rapper really)

J. Cole

Lyricism 8

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 9

Flow 7

(The Warm Up is still one of my favorite mixtapes)

JID

Lyricism 7

Delivery 6

Subject Matter 6

Flow 6

(Listen to CakeWalk Mixtape)

Juelz Santanta

Lyricism 6

Delivery 8

Subject Matter 4

Flow 7

(Not consistent enough)

Kendrick Lamar

Lyricism 7

Delivery 5

Subject Matter 8

Flow 4

(Pretty good material and originality wise if you get past horrible flow)

Rain

Lyricism 7

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 5

Flow 6

( American Dreamin Mixtapes are good listens)

Raz Fresco

Lyricism 5

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 3

Flow 7

(He's a sneakerhead but pretty good songs about them "Laced Up" is his mixtape)

Sosh B

Lyricism 7

Delivery 6

Subject Matter 8

Flow 6

(Good New york rapper)

Soulja Boy

Lyricism 2

Delivery 5

Subject Matter 2

Flow 5

(Commercial rapper doing something right though he got fans)

Wale

Lyricism 9

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 9

Flow 7

(Cool rapper Great lyrics whole package)

(SwaggaBoy) Los

Lyricism 8

Delivery 9

Subject Matter 6

Flow 9

(Good rapper next to blow in my opinion Plus he got Lola Monroe )

 

[Ishi]

Eminem
Lyricism: 10
Delivery: 10
Subject Matter: 9
Flow: 10

Lupe Fiasco
Lyricism: 10
Delivery: 10
Subject Matter: 9
Flow: 10

Nas
Lyricism: 10
Delivery: 10
Subject Matter: 9
Flow: 10

Andre 3000
Lyricism: 10
Delivery: 10
Subject Matter: 9
Flow: 10

Tupac
Lyricism: 10
Delivery: 10
Subject Matter: 9
Flow: 10

LOL LOL LOL Disappoint all around...

 

[Ajax McJones]

wow my thread went double plat, nice going!

now when i say that Tech N9ne is a better RAPPER than rick ross, can you understand what im saying?

hot beats and image havent got shit to do with being able to hold your own on the mic.

lol at these geeks saying that rick ross should get more credit because he 'chooses' hot beat, you ever heard of a producer?

Tech N9ne

Flow 10

Delivery 7.5

subject matter 8

Lyricism 8

33.5

Rick Ross

Flow 7

Delivery7

Subject matter 3

Lyricsm 5.5

23.5

See!!?

 

[Chuchk]

Ok im do newer Hip Hop artist

Starlito-

Lyricism 6

Delivery 8

Subject Matter 9

Flow 8

(Listen to his alphabet soup & Life Story both old then listen to newer material Like Terminader Gold 60)

Big K.R.I.T

Lyricism 8

Delivery 6

Subject Matter 10

Flow 6

(Krit wuz here is lastest work and the standout sound in my opinion is "Chilren of the world")

Currensy

Lyricism 5

Delivery 7

Subject Matter 3

Flow 7

(All song the same to me anyway but he got a fanbase)

YelaWolf

Lyricism 6

Delivery 8

Subject Matter 6

Flow 7

(Trunk Musik was a pretty good mixtape)

I'm gonna have to disagree on some of these(keep in mind I'm a fan of all of them)

Starlito-

Lyricism 8

Delivery 6

Subject Matter 5

Flow 8

Can ride a beat well but his delivery sounds like alot of other, to much coke rap

Big K.R.I.T

Lyricism 7

Delivery 8

Subject Matter 9

Flow 9

Not as lyrical as he claims to be but flows on the beat amazingly(probably helps that he makes them) does some cool stuff with harmonies in his delivery some pretty good singing and he has something to say

YelaWolf

Lyricism 9

Delivery 10

Subject Matter 6

Flow 9

Perfect delivery he has like 15 different voices harmonies, flow is near perfect usually spits fast but switches flows at every few bars good lyricism but speaks alot in non-sequitors so sometimes the message of the song is lost

Currensy

Lyricism 8

Delivery 8

Subject Matter 5

Flow 9

Love his lazy flow, but his subject matter was never really there and turned to basically all about weed when Wiz Khalifia got his hands on him

 

[curt mcgirt]

Jean Grae

Lyricism: 10
Delivery: 10
Subject Matter: 9
Flow: 10

 

[bejay0]

Great thread. But it needed one more category for these Rappers to be rated on. And thats : Ability to pick a good Beat.

 

[cubaroid]

Luda
Lyricism: 8
Delivery: 10
Subject Matter: 6
Flow: 10

 

[genocide_cutter]

someone rate anybody killa

 

[Paulgreenway]

Yelawolf

Lyricism: 8

Delivery: 10

Subject Matter: 6

Flow: 9

 

[EmbezzelJayR]

J.Cole

lyricism - 10

delivery- 10

subject matter - 10

flow - 10

longevity - 10

Tha Joker

lyricism - 9

delivery - 10

subject matter - 9

flow - 9

longevity -8.5

Swagga boy Los

lyricism - 10

delivery- 10

subject matter 9

flow 9.5

longevity 7.5?

Dee-1

lyricism - 9.5

delivery -8.5

subject matter - 10

flow - 10

longevity 8.5

 

[PakTraxxBeats]

Great thread. But it needed one more category for these Rappers to be rated on. And thats : Ability to pick a good Beat.

true dat that shit is seriously under rated

 

[EmbezzelJayR]

Great thread. But it needed one more category for these Rappers to be rated on. And thats : Ability to pick a good Beat.

Yeah some rappers skills are well enough to be high up there. Just the beats they pick do not incline well with their style.

With that said I think we should add versatility as a grading point.

Rappers should be graded on their versatility as well, this way we can see how a rapper can rap over any beat.Examples (Lil Wayne,Jay Z,Chamillionaire,Eminem etc...)

 

[backpackingrapper]

Charles Hamilton

Lyricism: 9

Delivery: 7 (If it was good he would be big as hell now)

Subject Matter: 10

Flow:7 (catch him slipping off beat a couple of times)

34

 

[Techn0tic]

Crooked I
Lyricism: 9 (The dude is a great lyricist.)
Delivery: 9.5 (If you haven't heard him spit, I suggest you check out Sound Off by Slaughterhouse)
Subject Matter: 7
Flow: 10 (The guy has a crazy fast flow.)

Overall: 35.5/40

Joe Budden
Lyricism: 10
Delivery: 9.5 (He puts certain emphasis on a lot of his words.)
Subject Matter: 10 (He is an excellent storyteller on the mic.)
Flow: 8.5

Overall: 38/40

Royce Da 5'9"
Lyricism: 9
Delivery: 9.5
Subject Matter: 7
Flow: 9.5

Overall: 35/100

Joell Ortiz
Lyricism: 9
Delivery: 8.5
Subject Matter: 9
Flow: 8.5

Overall: 35/40

Yeah, all of Slaughterhouse is really high rated. Why? Because they are the best hip hop group in the game today.

 

[curt mcgirt]

Crooked I
Lyricism: 9 (The dude is a great lyricist.)
Delivery: 9.5 (If you haven't heard him spit, I suggest you check out Sound Off by Slaughterhouse)
Subject Matter: 7
Flow: 10 (The guy has a crazy fast flow.)

Overall: 35.5/40

Joe Budden
Lyricism: 10
Delivery: 9.5 (He puts certain emphasis on a lot of his words.)
Subject Matter: 10 (He is an excellent storyteller on the mic.)
Flow: 8.5

Overall: 38/40

Royce Da 5'9"
Lyricism: 9
Delivery: 9.5
Subject Matter: 7
Flow: 9.5

Overall: 35/100

Joell Ortiz
Lyricism: 9
Delivery: 8.5
Subject Matter: 9
Flow: 8.5

Overall: 35/40

Yeah, all of Slaughterhouse is really high rated. Why? Because they are the best hip hop group in the game today.

I can't believe u gave Buddens a 10 in lyricism & Royce a 9 !!!! To me Royce is the best lyricist to me in the group.