DarthRozay
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I hate that fuckin chorus....
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[video=youtube;5sbhMJ1IOfY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sbhMJ1IOfY[/video]
(lyrics from a website)
I just wanted to use computers
i made it to the finish line first but lose a loser
i wanted to watch so i turned to rocks
like medusa the block the users
the rock the shootas the shots the helckle of cops
the lugers the glocks the cougers
should be in my ox making some lock wit my uma
but instead im on the block in this lock wit some cufa's
and im feeling like a doofas i think i understand the meaning of life
and really aint no reason for ice i still want it
still haunted by the demons of christ
but if u give it to me we'll flaunt it
i think niggas is dead broke its funny how
naw it really aint funny sometimes i hate money
please god take from me
Chorus
And somebody tell me where do i go from now (x4)
All my blessings, i take em as a lesson,
make em into questions and relate em to the present
should i take it as a present? a penalty
but everything is from the man upstairs
cant barely sing cuz the man upstairs
is bangin on the floor when the music stops will i ever cheer?
will i be seated on the floor
it really wont matter cat beat me to the score
i was speaking to these whores
u know i got trouble with women humble beginnings
mumblin and tremblin now they smugglin and stealing
step ya game up check the dame what?
i nutted on her fangs aint nuthin to hang up
that really happened in fact but i aint manufactur for that
a bumpy ride had to fasten my straps
i be tryna reach em, other niggas be lyin
dying to get behind and beat em
i just be tryna teach em
(chorus)
I put it on paper, cuz they'll put u offa paper
but most of these niggas is paper
10 1/2 by 8 blue lines 3 holes
hit they ass wit 8's flat lines 3 holes
but they'll gas u up like cold pacer
and leave u in the cold wit a cold without a coat
thats not gangsta them niggas aint ya boys man
then niggas is the poison gotta keep em under the sink
right next to the bleach i say that i'm on top of game
cuz if u under you sink
i wonder if its just the hunger you think? imagine that till it haunts you
them niggas want you to fall, i fall cuz i want to
yellow leaves and felonies is how i fell on these
god made my head with mind in it
they made my bread with swine in it
made my bed and now im lyin in it
i wonder if this is my limit
(lyrics from a website)
I just wanted to use computers
i made it to the finish line first but lose a loser
i wanted to watch so i turned to rocks
like medusa the block the users
the rock the shootas the shots the helckle of cops
the lugers the glocks the cougers
should be in my ox making some lock wit my uma
but instead im on the block in this lock wit some cufa's
and im feeling like a doofas i think i understand the meaning of life
and really aint no reason for ice i still want it
still haunted by the demons of christ
but if u give it to me we'll flaunt it
i think niggas is dead broke its funny how
naw it really aint funny sometimes i hate money
please god take from me
Chorus
And somebody tell me where do i go from now (x4)
All my blessings, i take em as a lesson,
make em into questions and relate em to the present
should i take it as a present? a penalty
but everything is from the man upstairs
cant barely sing cuz the man upstairs
is bangin on the floor when the music stops will i ever cheer?
will i be seated on the floor
it really wont matter cat beat me to the score
i was speaking to these whores
u know i got trouble with women humble beginnings
mumblin and tremblin now they smugglin and stealing
step ya game up check the dame what?
i nutted on her fangs aint nuthin to hang up
that really happened in fact but i aint manufactur for that
a bumpy ride had to fasten my straps
i be tryna reach em, other niggas be lyin
dying to get behind and beat em
i just be tryna teach em
(chorus)
I put it on paper, cuz they'll put u offa paper
but most of these niggas is paper
10 1/2 by 8 blue lines 3 holes
hit they ass wit 8's flat lines 3 holes
but they'll gas u up like cold pacer
and leave u in the cold wit a cold without a coat
thats not gangsta them niggas aint ya boys man
then niggas is the poison gotta keep em under the sink
right next to the bleach i say that i'm on top of game
cuz if u under you sink
i wonder if its just the hunger you think? imagine that till it haunts you
them niggas want you to fall, i fall cuz i want to
yellow leaves and felonies is how i fell on these
god made my head with mind in it
they made my bread with swine in it
made my bed and now im lyin in it
i wonder if this is my limit
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5th Letter
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He is dope most def underrated.
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thedarkprince
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jamacia;827305 said:
Underrated in the real world, overrated on the IC. Cant deny the niggas skill though.
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thetruth391
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*appreciates*
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bankrupt baller
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"I think this song is about how TV stunts people's creativity and individualism. People are too easily molded to what MTV tells them is really important in life."
"It's a comparison between commercialism and realism in music. What you see on tv (a box) and hear on the radio (also a box) completely rids you of any original creativity and eventually, the majority of us yield to it."
"I think this song is about isolation from the world, and him developing a liking for it....those last lines mean that you cant judge him for hiding away in the box, because everyone hides themselves in the clothes they wear and the house that they live in, and it would be impossible to break away from it."
And finally, someone kinda broke it down into chunks..
"I had no idea what this was about when I first heard it, and this the early comments about the television explanation were really useful. It was kind of jawdropping to listen to it afterwards, as I started to interpret it myself. silentsoldier made some observations that are really good too, and i agree with them all the more because of how i see "daydreamin'" as a song about being an individual. (i just posted about that)
i'll have to listen to the song and look at the lyrics considering that later on. now i'll say what i was going to, and i might repeat some stuff.
"Heeeeee mimics and he mocks it
Really hates the box but he can't remember how to stop, it
Uhh, so he continues to watch it"
That's about people who would agree that a lot of stuff on tv is garbage, but they still watch it. To put the tv interpretation in my own words, Lupe is rapping about how "life" or your identity has become so deeply embedded in what the media puts out that it is impossible to escape the box or separate life/identity from what the box says. it's a lot like the dr eckleburg scene from the great gatsby, where george wilson is so deeply entwined with a different box, symbolism, trapped underneath so many layers that it is not just part of but it forms his identity and the way he sees things.
"Hopin that it'll give him somethin that he can box with"
and:
"That's why he watch-es, scared to look away
Cause at that moment, it might show him
What to take off the locks with"
i relate to these lines, but to you this might sound vague and bullshitty. these lines seem like they're about reaching some kind of higher existential level, people hoping that there is more in "life" as society defines it, that this "life" will have more to come, eventually giving you the tools to be more.
but ultimately this hope succumbs to a kind of desperate acquiescence coexisting with what is more clearly a pipe dream:
"So he chained hisself to the box, took a lock and then he locked it
Swallowed the combination and then forgot, it"
"And he never lies (he never lies)
Cause he never said anything at all"
This to me brings to mind that he never does anything wrong because he has no position or takes no action or stand. This behavior isn't what society considers malicious or evil, but in reality is a more insidious and subtle problem. Or maybe as far as silentsoldier's interpretation, it's about not lying when you aren't "being yourself" because there wasn't much of "yourself" to begin with--"Cause he never said anything at all."
"As the doctors jot it all down, with they pens and pencils
The same ones that took away his voice
And just left this instrumental, like that"
one of the first things that i thought of when i took the tv interpretation to later listens is why this song is called "the instrumental" and what that means in the lyrics. i thought it was market researchers. the in da club video with dr dre and eminem taking notes, wearing white lab coats behind the two way glass came to mind. these researchers pay attention to what people like, pop culture. they took away his voice by determining what the box plays to begin with, and they collect all this information and knowledge, but not to use it to improve culture, just to put out more garbage to sell. they jot down what the market seems to say it wants, but by only trying to give the market more of what seemed to do well, they limit the range of mainstream products. companies aren't going to want to take big risks, bad pop culture that does well becomes distilled and magnified. by this process of jotting down what the market says, ironically marketing and advertising people do not give consumers a voice. in the end, they dictate the culture, they are the ones doing the writing that determines what it will become.
mtv and mainstream radio is a major example of this kind of pop culture. mainstream rap today is dominated by beats and production combined with dumbed down lyrics. so the instrumental that is left behind is specifically the instrumentals of rap songs. if you didn't know already "instrumental" is the specific term for the beat only track (as opposed to the a capella vocal only track). as a result of market research, there is no voice left in the sense that it is irrelevant and does not say anything.
from here, it seems possible that the whole song (on one level at least) is about hip hop and its mainstream. The culture--"Everything he sees he absorbs and adopts it/Heeeeee mimics," and "Anything the box tell him to do, he does it/Anything it tell him to get, he shops and he cops it." Seeing a decline and becoming frustrated with the mainstream--and he mocks it/Really hates the box but he can't remember how to stop, it. Then the rest of the first verse is about how a listener hopes that hip hop will eventually save and liberate itself (Cause at that moment, it might show him/What to take off the locks with) and because he has grown up on it and it's such a part of his identity, he doesn't want to give up on it yet (scared to look away).
this concept could be from the perspective of a rapper as well as a listener. the rapper could have also grown up on hip hop and is seeing a decline, but doesn't know what to do about it and is passive. he would like to do something, but does not know what. he does not want to give up on hip hop but it seems like he can only either wait for the scene to magically come up with a solution or wait some kind of inspiration or discovery that allows him to change the situation himself (Hopin that it'll give him somethin that he can box with). The "combination" could refer to the combination of features that made hip hop unique. swallowing the combination and forgetting it would mean forgetting these features and not spitting that combination any more. the doctors would be market researchers as well as a&r's and other industry people who shape lyrical and album content. the combination or prescription they decide on is the one the rapper now swallows. now, what the rapper or hip hop actually says is irrelevant. he is really spoken for by the doctors of the industry and all that matters is the instrumental.
the second verse could be about the music industry a little more explicitly. the rapper is now trapped in the system of the industry:
"Everything he hears he absorbs and adopts it
Anything not comin out the box he blocks it
See he loves to box and hope they never stop it"
"He protects the box, locks it in a box" this could mean that the rapper continues to be a part of hip hop, defending it. locking it in a box would mean locking mainstream rap in the box of the word "hip hop", as if the two are really the same. on internet forums, you'll see people say that rap is the way it is now because that's what the people want, or that nobody should dictate the definition of hip hop to the exclusion and denigration of some mainstream stuff like southern or snap. in reality, the state of hip hop today is more complex, and not the culturally laissez faire process these people think it is. I think this line, "Cause at that moment, it might get stolen" suggests this interpretation also."
do you agree with this breakdown?
"It's a comparison between commercialism and realism in music. What you see on tv (a box) and hear on the radio (also a box) completely rids you of any original creativity and eventually, the majority of us yield to it."
"I think this song is about isolation from the world, and him developing a liking for it....those last lines mean that you cant judge him for hiding away in the box, because everyone hides themselves in the clothes they wear and the house that they live in, and it would be impossible to break away from it."
And finally, someone kinda broke it down into chunks..
"I had no idea what this was about when I first heard it, and this the early comments about the television explanation were really useful. It was kind of jawdropping to listen to it afterwards, as I started to interpret it myself. silentsoldier made some observations that are really good too, and i agree with them all the more because of how i see "daydreamin'" as a song about being an individual. (i just posted about that)
i'll have to listen to the song and look at the lyrics considering that later on. now i'll say what i was going to, and i might repeat some stuff.
"Heeeeee mimics and he mocks it
Really hates the box but he can't remember how to stop, it
Uhh, so he continues to watch it"
That's about people who would agree that a lot of stuff on tv is garbage, but they still watch it. To put the tv interpretation in my own words, Lupe is rapping about how "life" or your identity has become so deeply embedded in what the media puts out that it is impossible to escape the box or separate life/identity from what the box says. it's a lot like the dr eckleburg scene from the great gatsby, where george wilson is so deeply entwined with a different box, symbolism, trapped underneath so many layers that it is not just part of but it forms his identity and the way he sees things.
"Hopin that it'll give him somethin that he can box with"
and:
"That's why he watch-es, scared to look away
Cause at that moment, it might show him
What to take off the locks with"
i relate to these lines, but to you this might sound vague and bullshitty. these lines seem like they're about reaching some kind of higher existential level, people hoping that there is more in "life" as society defines it, that this "life" will have more to come, eventually giving you the tools to be more.
but ultimately this hope succumbs to a kind of desperate acquiescence coexisting with what is more clearly a pipe dream:
"So he chained hisself to the box, took a lock and then he locked it
Swallowed the combination and then forgot, it"
"And he never lies (he never lies)
Cause he never said anything at all"
This to me brings to mind that he never does anything wrong because he has no position or takes no action or stand. This behavior isn't what society considers malicious or evil, but in reality is a more insidious and subtle problem. Or maybe as far as silentsoldier's interpretation, it's about not lying when you aren't "being yourself" because there wasn't much of "yourself" to begin with--"Cause he never said anything at all."
"As the doctors jot it all down, with they pens and pencils
The same ones that took away his voice
And just left this instrumental, like that"
one of the first things that i thought of when i took the tv interpretation to later listens is why this song is called "the instrumental" and what that means in the lyrics. i thought it was market researchers. the in da club video with dr dre and eminem taking notes, wearing white lab coats behind the two way glass came to mind. these researchers pay attention to what people like, pop culture. they took away his voice by determining what the box plays to begin with, and they collect all this information and knowledge, but not to use it to improve culture, just to put out more garbage to sell. they jot down what the market seems to say it wants, but by only trying to give the market more of what seemed to do well, they limit the range of mainstream products. companies aren't going to want to take big risks, bad pop culture that does well becomes distilled and magnified. by this process of jotting down what the market says, ironically marketing and advertising people do not give consumers a voice. in the end, they dictate the culture, they are the ones doing the writing that determines what it will become.
mtv and mainstream radio is a major example of this kind of pop culture. mainstream rap today is dominated by beats and production combined with dumbed down lyrics. so the instrumental that is left behind is specifically the instrumentals of rap songs. if you didn't know already "instrumental" is the specific term for the beat only track (as opposed to the a capella vocal only track). as a result of market research, there is no voice left in the sense that it is irrelevant and does not say anything.
from here, it seems possible that the whole song (on one level at least) is about hip hop and its mainstream. The culture--"Everything he sees he absorbs and adopts it/Heeeeee mimics," and "Anything the box tell him to do, he does it/Anything it tell him to get, he shops and he cops it." Seeing a decline and becoming frustrated with the mainstream--and he mocks it/Really hates the box but he can't remember how to stop, it. Then the rest of the first verse is about how a listener hopes that hip hop will eventually save and liberate itself (Cause at that moment, it might show him/What to take off the locks with) and because he has grown up on it and it's such a part of his identity, he doesn't want to give up on it yet (scared to look away).
this concept could be from the perspective of a rapper as well as a listener. the rapper could have also grown up on hip hop and is seeing a decline, but doesn't know what to do about it and is passive. he would like to do something, but does not know what. he does not want to give up on hip hop but it seems like he can only either wait for the scene to magically come up with a solution or wait some kind of inspiration or discovery that allows him to change the situation himself (Hopin that it'll give him somethin that he can box with). The "combination" could refer to the combination of features that made hip hop unique. swallowing the combination and forgetting it would mean forgetting these features and not spitting that combination any more. the doctors would be market researchers as well as a&r's and other industry people who shape lyrical and album content. the combination or prescription they decide on is the one the rapper now swallows. now, what the rapper or hip hop actually says is irrelevant. he is really spoken for by the doctors of the industry and all that matters is the instrumental.
the second verse could be about the music industry a little more explicitly. the rapper is now trapped in the system of the industry:
"Everything he hears he absorbs and adopts it
Anything not comin out the box he blocks it
See he loves to box and hope they never stop it"
"He protects the box, locks it in a box" this could mean that the rapper continues to be a part of hip hop, defending it. locking it in a box would mean locking mainstream rap in the box of the word "hip hop", as if the two are really the same. on internet forums, you'll see people say that rap is the way it is now because that's what the people want, or that nobody should dictate the definition of hip hop to the exclusion and denigration of some mainstream stuff like southern or snap. in reality, the state of hip hop today is more complex, and not the culturally laissez faire process these people think it is. I think this line, "Cause at that moment, it might get stolen" suggests this interpretation also."
do you agree with this breakdown?
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Mr.Wezzinton
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or atleast sense nas and jay and big n pac i guess im saying from 05 and beyond
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power_wisdom
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If you say 05 and beyond I have to say yes. No one else have came out spitting like he does. It's not just his words, but his content deliever and stories. But they are a few mcs that started in the 90s they might sever him.
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JokerzWyld
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He and Joe Budden are coming along nicely. They have it lyrically and conceptually.
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yeah i rap so don't
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he is easily one of the greatest to ever do it period
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ShencotheMC
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I'll give it to him homie is nice but I'd rather listen to his mixtapes than the albums. Mixtapes shit all over his albums. Only reason I think people felt The Cool was so innovative and groundbreaking was because hey never heard an album that was built like that before
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